Help on buying new stringing machine!

I've read through several threads and I'm still having a hard time selecting my first stringing machine. It'll be mostly for personal use. That being said, I do like to buy quality equipment with features that can make life easier. So far I know I want a quality electric machine, linear gripper and preferably gravity release base clamps.

Is there anything better or comparable to the Alpha Ghost 2 at the same price point? I was hoping to spend around $2K but can stretch to the $3K if it's worth it. This will be a long term investment with no idea of ever selling it. I plan to play for many years to come and have two kids that are starting to get into Tennis.

I see that Gamma is offering 15% discount on their machines from certain retailers. Do they have any machines that compete well with the features on the Alpha Ghost 2 at the same price point?

Thank you in advance for you input....

I don't believe there is a comparable machine at that price point. The ghost will serve you well for as many rackets as you can throw at it for many years. I think the adjustments on the Alpha are better than those on the Gamma.

The ghost is the only way to go at that price point. There’s really no other option with all the wants you want.
Not to mention, it’s an awesome machine
@SavvyStringer and I have the ghost 1 and we can both attest how great it is.

I can only agree with the previous speaker.
@rv75
I appreciate your attitude very much - far too many people want the cheapest on the market and just buy themselves problems.
You will have a lot of fun with the ghost2.

I went through the same decision almost 3 years ago. I finally settled down with a Gamma 7900ELS. This model does not come with gravity release clamps, which was not important to me, but its buttons and screen are much nicer than Ghost IMHO. I cannot comment on quality of Ghost, I am sure it is top notch; Gamma has been superb with nearly 400 racquets strung by now. Also, I saved about $700 over Ghost, which I spent on Babolat tool set and strings. Very happy with my decision still

What makes you think you want gravity release clamps. Just something else to break and if you continue to drop the clamp to release the base sooner or later something will break. When you release a clamp you should first release the base then the clamp so the string is not damaged in the process. Gravity release reverses that procedure. I would not use that feature if I had it.

If you join the IART Alpha give you 5%off machine purchase.

I'm not sure why Gamma gets a bad rap on here sometimes. I have strung thousands of racquets on Gamma machines (LO and CP), and I have never had one disappoint me! I strung on a 8800 and it was a great machine, I can only assume that the 8900 is every bit as good. The only machine that I've used that is better is the Baiardo, which for many is the gold standard. At home I have a 6004 LO, and it is rock solid as well. I don't have experience with the Ghost 2, but I did take my MRT exam on the Original Ghost. It was a great machine, but it didn't blow me away. I really think you would be remiss not to at least explore Gamma as an option!

I've never strung on a Ghost 2 but I did order a pair of Ghost 2 clamps that I was hoping to use as a replacement for a worn out pair of Babolat Star 4 clamps. I returned the Ghost 2 clamps immediately. Partly because they didn't fit the bases on my machine (not an insurmountable problem) but mostly because I wasn't impressed with the workmanship on them. In particular I was expecting them to have rollers instead of cams. And the cams were not machined particularly well. Instead of a smooth radius, they had pronounced flat spots.

Clamps may seem an afterthought when selecting a machine. They are after all removable and they don't constitute a large percentage of the bulk. Nevertheless, they are critical. I wish I knew who was making the best clamps these days. Unfortunately, very few manufacturers make their clamps available for purchase. For instance, I asked the Tecnifibre rep to bring some Tecnifibre clamps by next time she was in my area. Was told that Tecnifibre does not sell clamps. Got similar replies from other companies.

Irvin said:

What makes you think you want gravity release clamps. Just something else to break and if you continue to drop the clamp to release the base sooner or later something will break. When you release a clamp you should first release the base then the clamp so the string is not damaged in the process. Gravity release reverses that procedure. I would not use that feature if I had it.

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I have no experience with stringing machines so just going by what I've read from people who've switched to using gravity release clamps. I read about the possibility of damaging strings but not about breaking the clamps. I'll have to research this further. Thanks for your input

StringGuruMRT said:

I'm not sure why Gamma gets a bad rap on here sometimes. I have strung thousands of racquets on Gamma machines (LO and CP), and I have never had one disappoint me! I strung on a 8800 and it was a great machine, I can only assume that the 8900 is every bit as good. The only machine that I've used that is better is the Baiardo, which for many is the gold standard. At home I have a 6004 LO, and it is rock solid as well. I don't have experience with the Ghost 2, but I did take my MRT exam on the Original Ghost. It was a great machine, but it didn't blow me away. I really think you would be remiss not to at least explore Gamma as an option!

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I am not against Gamma at all. I saw that they released the Gamma XLT which they're calling a "premium grade construction" table top machine. Some places are currently offering 15% off most gamma machines so the price is very attractive. Can't get any good reviews on the XLT anywhere though.

Most comparisons I read about the Gamma 7900 ELS and Alpha Ghost 2 seem to give the AG2 the edge. I'm not biased against any brand.
I'm trying to get the best machine possible without spending more than $3K.

rv75 said:

I am not against Gamma at all. I saw that they released the Gamma XLT which they're calling a "premium grade construction" table top machine. Some places are currently offering 15% off most gamma machines so the price is very attractive. Can't get any good reviews on the XLT anywhere though.

Most comparisons I read about the Gamma 7900 ELS and Alpha Ghost 2 seem to give the AG2 the edge. I'm not biased against any brand.
I'm trying to get the best machine possible without spending more than $3K.

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I didn't get the impression that you were, I just feel that for whatever reason Gamma is treated like a second rate product on these boards. I just wanted to get my 2 cents in defending them before the the onslaught!

@rv75, I have very limited experience with the Ghost 2 ( a couple of rackets done for a tournament in a pinch) and I was very impressed. Were I to buy a machine, I'd opt for the Ghost. You are also investing in a machine that is currently in production and has a warranty. I know a couple of people who have them and have read comments on the boards and have seen no complaints (other than the one above about the clamps -- but hey Babolat clamps will spoil anybody). But, the Ghost 2 is feature laden. It has more bang for the buck than the new Babolat Racket Station. Will it last as long? Who knows. But if you depreciate it over its life, I guarantee you it will cost way less.

With regard to your options, if you're not in a rush you can check the large auction site for used Babolat's. Pros are they are well built, the clamps are hands down the best I've ever used (or even heard of) and their design is second to none. Cons are most all are out of production and no longer supported. (That concerned me most.) I had an issue with a clamp base and upon the recommendation of the boards, contacted Babolat, Mia Kim is the rep. While the machine, a Mighty Sensor Dual, isn't supported, Mia was very helpful and I had a couple of new clamp bases in a couple of days. I bought a couple because they are out of production and they only had a dozen or so left. So the big negative in this option is if you lose a motherboard or other vital part, you might be strapped with a boat anchor.

Your option list is a great one. Those that pooh pooh gravity release bases do so because they don't have them. I suspect jealousy is the biggest reason. Anything mechanical that has repeated use will at some point fail. The gravity release clamps have been around for a long time and continue to be made, so the notion that they will break is specious at best. They are designed to operated as gravity release clamps and the impact of....well....gravity. Anyone who says they wouldn't use them if they had them has never had them. @Irvin assertion is pure speculation. The failure of my base clamp is still undetermined. I could take it apart, clean it, and it might function perfectly. I opted for a new one (at the recommendation of Babolat, but they said they'd take the new ones back if I chose to pursue the cleaning route.) Babolat's new machine has gravity releases.

With regard to the "proper" release method, that too is up for debate apparently. Do a search. There is a thread where gravity release clamps are discussed. They are, in fact, a boon to stringing as they cut down both the number of movements required and the time required to string. Stringing legend @Richard Parnell has and uses them on his Wilson Biarado as can clearly be seen in his video on ATW stringing. It is on the utube.

Congratulations on your pending purchase. I think the Ghost 2 is a fine machine!

Agree with @Irvin regarding gravity release. Have strung on machines that had them and preferred not to use them. Always want to release base first, then clamp. Less chance of marring string. I also drive a car with a manual transmission.

10shoe said:

Agree with @Irvin regarding gravity release. Have strung on machines that had them and preferred not to use them. Always want to release base first, then clamp. Less chance of marring string. I also drive a car with a manual transmission.

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Always release the base first on a soft multi or gut. For poly I typically release the clamp first. Less chance of damage to the poly.

SavvyStringer said:

Always release the base first on a soft multi or gut. For poly I typically release the clamp first. Less chance of damage to the poly.

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Why do you think there is less chance of damage to poly if you remove the clamp first?

Irvin said:

Why do you think there is less chance of damage to poly if you remove the clamp first?

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Harder string.

I feel you Irvin.

My 2 cents on the gravity release clamps. Not saying it is right or wrong, everyone does it the way they prefer. Just did a pull count on my Baiardo and I am just under 1000 racquets a year. In those I have had zero people complain about excessive scuffing, and zero returned because of breakage or damage from the gravity release. Out of curiosity I pulled some string and released clamp first, then pulled some and released base first. Neither me or my wife could find any discernible difference in the string.

@Herb was one of the ones on the thread I referenced earlier and allayed any fear I had in using the gravity release function.

Since then I have used it on all strings including natural gut with absolutely no ill effects.

Use them or not, but there is zero downside to using them.

I feel like there is a right and wrong or better way to engage and release the clamps. Just like there is a right and wrong way to mount a racket. Should the logo on the butt cap be right side up, upside down, or does it even matter. Of course one could agrue it does not matter but that does not make it right. For the sake of consistency everything should be done the same every time, especially if you working as a team.

When you put the clamp on the string your first clamp the string and then tighten the base. When you remove the clamps you first loosen the base then remove the clamp. It is impossible to damage the string because they may be a difference in tension on the string relative to the two sides of the clamp using that method.

Strings relax over time and if one pulls tension on a string @60 lbs then takes a moment to string a few mains on the other side the tension on the clamped string falls. When one comes back to that side the next string to be tensioned will again be at a higher tension than the tension on the other side of the clamp. If the base is released first the tension on both sides of the clamp equalize and the string will not slip when the clamp is released. If the clamp is released first the string could slip through the clamp while the string tension equalizes. Why take any chances to save a second or two?

Where to start?

Irvin said:

I feel like there is a right and wrong or better way to engage and release the clamps. Just like there is a right and wrong way to mount a racket. Should the logo on the butt cap be right side up, upside down, or does it even matter. Of course one could agrue it does not matter but that does not make it right. For the sake of consistency everything should be done the same every time, especially if you working as a team.

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If you're P1 and stringing for pros who get their gear for free, sure go ahead. But certainly someone who claims to "care" as much about grommets and wear and tear through stringing would see the fallacy in this for a regular guy. If you string the same way up for club players, the grommets get worn out in the tie off areas quicker. If you flip the racket, you get twice the life. This is even true for a two piece since the crosses start on different sides when you flip the frame. And since you say string it the same way every time, that doesn't leave room for where you start the string does it?

Irvin said:

When you put the clamp on the string your first clamp the string and then tighten the base. When you remove the clamps you first loosen the base then remove the clamp. It is impossible to damage the string because they may be a difference in tension on the string relative to the two sides of the clamp using that method.

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And I would counter that using gravity release clamps, I've seen zero chance of damaging a string as well. The clamp is loosened, falls to the base and the base is unlocked. There are instances when the clamp doesn't fall on its own accord, and like @Richard Parnell does in his video, a tug will pull the clamp down. Since the clamp is no longer engaging the string there is no damage. I guess a good stringer wouldn't have any problem doing this. I certainly haven't.

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Strings relax over time and if one pulls tension on a string @60 lbs then takes a moment to string a few mains on the other side the tension on the clamped string falls. When one comes back to that side the next string to be tensioned will again be at a higher tension than the tension on the other side of the clamp. If the base is released first the tension on both sides of the clamp equalize and the string will not slip when the clamp is released. If the clamp is released first the string could slip through the clamp while the string tension equalizes. Why take any chances to save a second or two?

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This is classic @Irvin - you've rationalized something that just doesn't happen. Ergo if it makes sense to you, HEY IT HAS TO BE TRUE! And if it's true, then by Irvin it has to be that all gravity release clamps are faulty! They are subject to damaging string, early failure and replacement, they are the dregs of the industry! No self-respecting stringing machine would be caught dead with gravity release clamps!

If gravity release clamps were subject to this kind of design fault, why would Babolat continue to put them on their machines? The fact is I, unlike you, have used gravity release clamps. I, unlike you, have seen how they function. The fact is, every stringing machine Babolat makes now has gravity release clamps or (even worse) automatic release available -- wait for it -- at extra cost. And I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that had you purchased a machine, like the Mighty Sensor, that had gravity release clamps, you'd be crowing about how great they are.

After bouncing between Ghost 2 and Baiardo, I pulled trigger on Ghost 2 yesterday. Currently stringing on Gamma X-ST/Wise setup; have experience stinging on Star 5 and Baiardo. Chose Ghost 2 mainly b/c at the price point it meets the size/scale of my business - that was the key factor for me. Right now I just don't have the breadth of clientele to justify a high/high end machine. Felt the Ghost 2 was the right interim step to getting there though, and my Gamma/Wise setup will serve as both a backup machines and one I can take on the road when needed. That and after doing research I feel comfortable with Alpha's technical support, parts, and warranty - you call the number and a human being in Austin, TX answers.

Oh, and do I love those gravity clamps.

emptystringer said:

After bouncing between Ghost 2 and Baiardo, I pulled trigger on Ghost 2 yesterday. Currently stringing on Gamma X-ST/Wise setup; have experience stinging on Star 5 and Baiardo. Chose Ghost 2 mainly b/c at the price point it meets the size/scale of my business - that was the key factor for me. Right now I just don't have the breadth of clientele to justify a high/high end machine. Felt the Ghost 2 was the right interim step to getting there though, and my Gamma/Wise setup will serve as both a backup machines and one I can take on the road when needed. That and after doing research I feel comfortable with Alpha's technical support, parts, and warranty - you call the number and a human being in Austin, TX answers.

Oh, and do I love those gravity clamps.

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Where did you buy the Ghost 2 from?

Hey @rv75. Are you sure you want a machine with 6 point mounting?

10shoe said:

Hey @rv75. Are you sure you want a machine with 6 point mounting?

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I'm not sure of anything which is why I'm asking for advice

@10shoe, if you had 2K to 3K to spend on an electric stringing machine, what would you get? I prefer to buy new because of warranty issues, etc.
Even the latest tabletop from Gamma (XLT) has a 6 point mounting system

I don't know. But I would be leaning toward a Gamma with 2 point mounting because I don't like 6 point mounting. And there's really no one else except maybe Prince offering 2 pt mounting on a high end machine these days. And I don't trust Prince anymore.

My history is I started on a 6pt Alpha drop weight machine. Decided I liked stringing. It would be a shame to discover you hate stringing after dropping 3 bills on a machine. I have several customers who own machines. They don't enjoy stringing or taking the time to do it.

rv75 said:

Where did you buy the Ghost 2 from?

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New tech tennis.

Would like to add along w/ 10shoe's comment that this is not the machine I would recommend for personal use, or even personal use plus family/friends. The Gamma X-ST LO was my first, then upgraded w/ Wise 2086 when I decided to go small business route. That setup right there would've probably served me and my tennis playing family/friends for many years (Wise support is really good). But having now built up a good number of clientele and a club account, I felt I needed a tweener machine before going full Baiardo/TF/Babolat. For a first time machine, it's hard to beat Gamma IMO.

10shoe said:

It would be a shame to discover you hate stringing after dropping 3 bills on a machine. I have several customers who own machines. They don't enjoy stringing or taking the time to do it.

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This is a valid point. Thanks again for the feedback.

emptystringer said:

Would like to add along w/ 10shoe's comment that this is not the machine I would recommend for personal use, or even personal use plus family/friends

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I'm definitely just looking to string for myself and maybe my kids and a handful of friends. You have me leaning towards the Gamma XLT. With the current discount, I can save a lot of money and still get most of the features I'm looking for. Getting the X-ST + wise would be almost the same cost.

rv75 said:

This is a valid point. Thanks again for the feedback.



I'm definitely just looking to string for myself and maybe my kids and a handful of friends. You have me leaning towards the Gamma XLT. With the current discount, I can save a lot of money and still get most of the features I'm looking for. Getting the X-ST + wise would be almost the same cost.

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If I were to do it all over again I would have gone straight Gamma XLT as well. Plus w/ XLT you get 360-deg turntable. The adapter Wise recommends for Gamma lockouts effectively eliminates the 360 rotation feature.

The Gamma XLT is an electronic stringing machine, why would you want to put a Wise on it?

EDIT: Also the XLT has a 6 pt mounting system not 2 pt.

Looking at the XLT, first thing I notice is it's a 6 pt mount, 2nd thing I notice is the low priced clamp bases. I think there must be better options.

When my Toyo-Zouki machine eventually dies and becomes a 90 lb paperweight I am really unsure if I would even attempt to replace it. I think it is more likely
that since I am in my late 60's I would go back to stringing on my Ektelon H and semi-retire. In any case, I have not been looking at machines lately and don't really know who is making what and whether I would consider buying it.

Irvin said:

The Gamma XLT is an electronic stringing machine, why would you want to put a Wise on it?

EDIT: Also the XLT has a 6 pt mounting system not 2 pt.

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I would not put a Wise on a XLT. I would put a Wise on a X-ST.

^^ Sorry my bad.

10shoe said:

Looking at the XLT, first thing I notice is it's a 6 pt mount, 2nd thing I notice is the low priced clamp bases. I think there must be better options.

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@emptystringer seems to have done OK with this X-ST. Gamma is advertising the XLT as a "professional" table top stringing machine. I realize I have to sacrifice quality at a 1700 price point. Are clamp bases not upgradable?

The XLT comes in the new design with original Gamma Upgrades.
Upgrade 1
V-Shoulder Mounts on all 6pt Models - Convenience (no blocked holes)
Upgrade 2
Longer Mounting Arms - More Adaptable for Different Racquet Types
Upgrade 3
Curved String Clamps Tracks - Smoother Clamp Movement
Upgrade 4
Smaller clamps for universal use (squash, badminton)

Digital controlling unity with:
9 programmable Memory places, knot function raises unique pull by 10%, input in Lbs and kp possibly, 3 different pull speeds, pre stretch of the string about 10% or 20%.
- Linear pull of 5 - 40 kp, adjustable in 0,1kp steps
. Constant Pull System
- Diamond-coating, universal High End Clamps
- Foot pedal (optional)
- Height adjustable floorstand (optional)
- All tools included
- 5 year warranty

rv75 said:

@emptystringer seems to have done OK with this X-ST. Gamma is advertising the XLT as a "professional" table top stringing machine. I realize I have to sacrifice quality at a 1700 price point. Are clamp bases not upgradable?

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Perhaps they are upgradeable. I don't know. But when you started this thread you had the Ghost 2 in your sights. The clamp bases on the Ghost 2 look to me like first rate bases. Never used them, but design-wise they are very similar to my Toyo-Zouki bases which are arguably among the best you can get.

I realize we are throwing a lot of confusing info your way. As I said in my last post (33), if I had to buy a machine today I don't know what I'd select. If I went with a Gamma, it would have 2 point mounting, top of the line clamp bases, and a linear puller. My old string clamps would all fit the Gamma, thankfully, since I don't like what Gamma has done with their clamps.

There are other mfrs btw. I don't know about pricing but Tecnifibre may have something in your price range and so may others. Take your time.

Just to add to something @10shoe said, I've used both 2-point and 6-point. I have to say that 2-point is much faster and much less a PITA than 6-point. I don't see any real benefit to 6-point over 2-point either. If anything, I would say 2-point has less (if any) racket deformation while stringing.

Rabbit said:

Just to add to something @10shoe said, I've used both 2-point and 6-point. I have to say that 2-point is much faster and much less a PITA than 6-point. I don't see any real benefit to 6-point over 2-point either. If anything, I would say 2-point has less (if any) racket deformation while stringing.

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This man is genius^!!! Applause

kabrac said:

This man is genius^!!! Applause

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Can't argue with that
That still leaves me scratching my head as to what to get. I went from AG2 to maybe Gamma XLT to maybe back to AG2.

Where can I get a 2 point mounting with top of the line clamp bases and linear puller for under 3K??? LOL

rv75 said:

Can't argue with that
That still leaves me scratching my head as to what to get. I went from AG2 to maybe Gamma XLT to maybe back to AG2.

Where can I get a 2 point mounting with top of the line clamp bases and linear puller for under 3K??? LOL

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I'm not sure what the names of the models are, but Gamma makes two electronic constant pull stringing machines that can be used on a stand or table top. And I even think that they have a string meter on the machine. Not sure how many people use those but hey at least you'll have it.

Nothing wrong against Alpha Ghost either. I just personally prefer a 2-point mounting system

@rv75 @kabrac- maybe I should elaborate. There is nothing wrong with a six-point mounting system. IMO, it's just not as fast or as easy to use as a two-point. That said, it must do the job as well as a two-point since all the high dollar machines come with it. The design engineers must know something that we don't (?) . Other than that small difference of personal preference, the Babolat (Mighty) Sensor is the best machine I've ever used.

If you know you want to string...I'd opt for the Ghost. If you're a little unsure, go for a less expensive machine. You can turn it around if you have to -- expect to lose a little money, but at least you're not mortgaging the house to try something you're not sure you'll like. If you are geeky and love stringing like the rest of us, how will you know when to upgrade your machine? When you find stringing on it tedious. That is how I decided to get my first Wise.

I hope this doesn't endanger my genius status.

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@rv75 @kabrac- maybe I should elaborate. There is nothing wrong with a six-point mounting system. IMO, it's just not as fast or as easy to use as a two-point. That said, it must do the job as well as a two-point since all the high dollar machines come with it. The design engineers must know something that we don't (?) . Other than that small difference of personal preference, the Babolat (Mighty) Sensor is the best machine I've ever used.

If you know you want to string...I'd opt for the Ghost. If you're a little unsure, go for a less expensive machine. You can turn it around if you have to -- expect to lose a little money, but at least you're not mortgaging the house to try something you're not sure you'll like. If you are geeky and love stringing like the rest of us, how will you know when to upgrade your machine? When you find stringing on it tedious. That is how I decided to get my first Wise.

I hope this doesn't endanger my genius status.

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Thanks again @Rabbit ! For me, it's not so much a want to string versus the convenience of not having to drop my racquets somewhere. I live in a small town with very limited options.
I've also been dealing with TE. I already read thru your hybrid strings suggestions and have order strings based on your recommendations. I know that I'll start breaking more strings now that I'm moving away from full poly. You're still a genius on my book

AG2 is still on the lead. May pull the trigger!

^^Mine arrives tomorrow - can't wait!

rv75 said:

Where can I get a 2 point mounting with top of the line clamp bases and linear puller for under 3K??? LOL

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Gamma 6004 comes in both 2 or 6 point mounts. I would go for the 6 point myself because it has the fastest mounting system I ever used.

emptystringer said:

After bouncing between Ghost 2 and Baiardo, I pulled trigger on Ghost 2 yesterday. Currently stringing on Gamma X-ST/Wise setup; have experience stinging on Star 5 and Baiardo. Chose Ghost 2 mainly b/c at the price point it meets the size/scale of my business - that was the key factor for me. Right now I just don't have the breadth of clientele to justify a high/high end machine. Felt the Ghost 2 was the right interim step to getting there though, and my Gamma/Wise setup will serve as both a backup machines and one I can take on the road when needed. That and after doing research I feel comfortable with Alpha's technical support, parts, and warranty - you call the number and a human being in Austin, TX answers.

Oh, and do I love those gravity clamps.

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You'll enjoy the ghost and it will certainly get the job done. I have one and used it as a primary machine for college stringing for 3 or 4 years. Mine has between 3500-4000 rackets on it and has never had a problem. I've mostly used it on the stand but have also used it as table top. The only complaint I have when switching between table top and stand is that the cord has to run through the stand and doesn't come in somewhere in the back. It makes it a pain to get the cord back through the stand after using it as a table top. I would recommend threading with a wire hanger to help get it through the stand or maybe attaching a fishing weight to a piece of string and attaching that to the cord so you can more easily get it through the stand. Once room provides (looking to buy and out fit a decent sized shed into an extra room) I will have the alpha set up along side my baiardo.

rv75 said:

Thanks again @Rabbit ! For me, it's not so much a want to string versus the convenience of not having to drop my racquets somewhere. I live in a small town with very limited options.
I've also been dealing with TE. I already read thru your hybrid strings suggestions and have order strings based on your recommendations. I know that I'll start breaking more strings now that I'm moving away from full poly. You're still a genius on my book

AG2 is still on the lead. May pull the trigger!

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You know, reading your post here triggered another thought. If you have the $'s available and have a need to string, but aren't real excited about it, a Ghost may be a better purchase than a drop weight or cheaper machine. My logic is thus: a Ghost will take all the tedium and pain out of a task which you are doing out of necessity and make it, dare I say, enjoyable? If not, surely tolerable. Hey, there's a silver lining everywhere if you just look a little.

If you need any ideas regarding stringing or hybrids, just start a thread.

jim e said:

If you join the IART Alpha give you 5%off machine purchase.

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Does anyone know how easy it is to cancel an IART membership? Their website says that they will automatically renew you every year. I like the idea of saving 5%. Even with their membership fee you end up saving a little. For a new stringer there may be even value in getting access to their content for the year

I pay with PayPal and once paid, I go back to PayPal site and cancel the automatic annual payment.