Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Translates roughly too:
"It does not seem right to me that Wimbledon is the only tournament that has its own criteria of seeds." @RafaelNadal"
Thoughts?
"It does not seem right that Wimbledon is the only tournament to have it's own seed criteria" - Rafael Nadal
- Thread starter Aussie Darcy
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Translates roughly too:
"It does not seem right to me that Wimbledon is the only tournament that has its own criteria of seeds." @RafaelNadal"
Thoughts?
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Welcome to grass season. Home of the MOST prestigious slam.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
I bet he was looking forward to that No. 2 seeding 
TheAssassin
Legend
It's perfect the way it is.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Nadal and his whining never stops
- 2 year ranking
- tour schedule
- Wimb ranking
- blue clay
- specific umpire (Carlos) not in his matches
- serve time stipulations
- WTF should be rotated
Did I miss anything ?
- 2 year ranking
- tour schedule
- Wimb ranking
- blue clay
- specific umpire (Carlos) not in his matches
- serve time stipulations
- WTF should be rotated
Did I miss anything ?
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Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
You know, he could have always played in Queens instead of scoffing at it. He needed what, two wins?
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
His annoying serve routine?
Oh wait that's me whining about him
Think you've gotten most of it
Fedr and three others
Rookie
It makes more sense. Just like Rafa should always be the no. 1 seed at the French. More tournaments should do it
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
This is a guy who knows how to game the system . Remember as recent as YE 17, he came all the way to Paris Indoors to play one round and then promptly withdraw citing injuries .
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
Again more of the usual from the Federer brigade but that's hardly a shock. Here's a transcript of the relevant portion:
https://www.marca.com/tenis/wimbledon/2019/06/24/5d113cdfca4741033b8b4570.html
https://www.marca.com/tenis/wimbledon/2019/06/24/5d113cdfca4741033b8b4570.html
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
- WTF should be played on clay
- 25 second shot clock sucks
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
So Nadal is salty too just like his fans?
LOL
LOL
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
He’s right though. Why should they get a pass and not respect the ATP ranking which is perfectly designed
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
You really should get over it.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
This is already a compromise. Before this was implemented, there was a seeding committee that arbitrarily decided what the seedings would be.
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Deleted member 765702
Guest
At this rate they might change the seeding formula too. The roof rule from last year isn't there anymore...
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
Easy to say when your favorite didn’t went through 12 months to earn #2 seed and then someone takes that away from you and give it to someone who won less
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal's complaint is pretty disingenuous since he could have easily entered Queen's or Halle. All he needed to do to get the second seed was to reach the QF
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
All he had to do was show up for a warm up and win a couple matches. He didn't overplay during clay season this time.
augustobt
Legend
Er... Nadal could've done something if he wanted that #2 that much: He only needed to enter and win one of those grass events that we had in the past couple of weeks.
Federer wasn't handed anything. He had to be there and win a tournament. If Nadal wanted that so much, why he didn't played there?
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
The headline of that article you posted literally says the same thing.
which translated says
The little section in the article ALSO says pretty much the same thing.
So what's your point? Or are you just trolling? Also i'm hardly just another part of the Fed brigade. I'm just posting what I read, apparently that's too much for you?
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Tennis_Hands
Banned
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TheAssassin
Legend
It is well designed, but with grass season being so short, it's not so unfair of Wimbledon to give extra value to recent results on their surface and reward those guys who did well there, is it?
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
Agree. The problem really comes from , Should he? That’s pretty much it , Nadal’s problem in his interview is that Wimbledon is the only tourney with their own seeding , Therefore the only one not respecting the real ranking
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
I can understand that , I will prefer a change , But from what you said , I can see the reason of the seeding
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
Lmao
With any luck he draws Novak again. It wouldn't really matter in the scheme of things of course, but it would be funny just for the meltdown on here
With any luck he draws Novak again. It wouldn't really matter in the scheme of things of course, but it would be funny just for the meltdown on here
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
It's because if you are good on clay or HC you have a decent chance to earn enough ranking points to get a good ranking but with Grass you don't. So more weight is given to your points on grass. I mean think about it, why should the rest if the season on totally different surfaces determine your standing on grass? For the US Open for instance you've had so many HC events to okay I the your ranking is a fair reflection of your ability on HC. But not in the case if Wimbledon where it is only Wimbledon and a 500 event if you chose to play it that's giving you any points.
And it's designed to protect players like Nadal as much as anyone. Imagine if Djokovic or Federer continued to be dangerous on grass but poor elsewhere and their ranking dropped. Nadal could then potentially have to play them early on at Wimbledon without any adjustment
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
It doesn't really matter who he draws. As the third seed, if Fedovic survive the early rounds, Nadal will probably have to go through both to win the title. As the second seed, there was a chance Fed and Djoker would have landed in the same half
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Slams are not ATP events, so if they think it improves the event to do their own thing then they'll do it.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Must be false or poorly translated, Nadal never complains
coolboarder
Rookie
If grass court season last 2 months that might include 3 grass masters just like clay, Wimbledon would not feel the need to have its own seeding. Just a common sense. Grass court tennis is not the same as other surface and it’s a different game altogether. Figure it out, Nadal.
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
Fed devotees making up false stories about Rafa again!
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Chadalina
Guest
I agree with nadal (im fed fan). In the past, grass was a much different surface. Now its green clay, there is no reason to seed outside the rankings.
French open champs were losing first round when it was real grass, some didnt even bother making the trip.
French open champs were losing first round when it was real grass, some didnt even bother making the trip.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
You see @tennisaddict, Nadal agrees he should be #2.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Aye. Like when then world number 2, Thomas Muster, was seeded at number 7 at 1996 Wimbledon, having just reached the semi finals of 1996 Queen's Club. What about Lleyton Hewitt, then world number 2, seeded at number 3 at 2005 Wimbledon and in the same half as Federer, while then world number 4 Roddick was seeded at number 2 and got to the final?
Cashman
Hall of Fame
He's absolutely correct - it's not right.
The solution is to provide more equitable representation of grass on the ATP tour, therefore ensuring that seeding by straight ranking is better reflective of a player's ability on that surface. This would bring Wimbledon into line with the other three Slams (all of which also reserve the right to use alternative seeding methods, but find it unnecessary to do so).
Somehow I suspect that Nadal would be less in favour of that happening than Wimbledon's organisers.
