Played twice this weekend with Volkl V-Squared 1.30 strung at 52lbs. Monster spin and I could confidently take full cuts off both wings. The spin was really great on both slice and kick serves as well. Thought I found a string winner for my K7 Red until I broke them only 3 hours in!
I’m putting in another set of V-Squared and dropping the tension down to 50lbs but I’m not sure that’s going to extend string life that much. It’s a squared string which is great for spin as advertised but it notches really quickly. The strings moved on me a lot but it didn’t impact my control or feel at all so I didn’t mind. It also felt fine on my elbow and wrist despite playing back to back days. We’ll see how the second set plays and I’ll report back.
I finished up playing today with my Halo Hybrid at 50 lbs set up in my second K7 Red and it felt pretty good. Noticeably less spin production but found it easier to find my forehand more consistently than I did on my first go round with these strings.
I was also hit up by RomanFolly and told to email georgeliam770@gmail.com. I suggest that TW ban this account, seems super shady to me as well.I posted in the Wanted forum for a K7 Lime, and received a message from georgeliam770 telling me to email romanfolly@gmail.com. After exchanging a few emails and getting quite close to purchasing through paypal, I wanted to "vet" the transaction before completing. Trouble is, I can't find georgeliam770, or the conversation, on TT! Is this a scam? Is there any other legitimate reason I can't find a trace of that user account or conversation on TT? Thanks for your help.
I've come full circle with Angell too. Started with the 100, then went to the 97 for a while then to 95 and now back to the 100. The 100 provides what I need for my game at this point although I do have a radical tour OS on its way as I want to give an OS a decent try having borrowed a mate's POG OS. We'll see but I won't be parting ways with the 100 just yet. Nice drop of whisky Caol-ila.
TC95 and TC97 are practically the same racquet. I play with them interchangeably. If you overlay one over the other, you will see that they are identical. The only difference is the square profile of the shoulder beams on TC97. What this produces in practice is a stiffer frame. With TC97 you are getting more power, but are losing some comfort. I myself, prefer TC97: I welcome the extra power. In heavy hitting, and particularly, on serve, it is very noticeable. The level of comfort is manageable -- it stays above ProStaff 97 / Blade / Prestige Pro.Anyone actually transition from the TC95 to the TC97 successfully? I bought a V3 TC97 18x20 a few years ago but dismissed it after one two-hour hitting session, probably prematurely. I recently switched from the TC95 to the Wilson Ultra Tour, but I keep seeing comparisons between the UT and TC97 18x20. If they're in fact that similar, I'd like to look into the Angell a bit more and have an opportunity to pick up two TC97 18x20s at a steal. Any advice from the Angell faithful?
Wilson Ultra Tour 97 is nothing like TC95 or TC97. I am not sure how this rumor even came to be. UT is a very anemic / low power / low spin racquet -- pretty much the opposite of TC97 -- powerful, solid, frame that hits very penetrating ball and serves bombs.
The DR 98 while a 16x19 however has a denser string pattern in the middle. It has 8 mains in the throat of the racquet compared to the six on the TC97. So how do you make the TC97 feel a bit denser and less launch angle. Choose a larger gauge string for one and if you want to lower the launch angle a bit try having the crosses a lb or two higher then your mainsHello there,
I got my hands on a used TC97 16*19 racket to try. It's the 320 gram, 63 stiffness version.
All this time I 've been using a DR98, and never thought to change the racket until now.
I love the way the TC97 feels, it's a solid racket with great feedback. The DR98 in comparison feels hollow, like a tin can. I can't hit a ball with the DR98 now, without missing the TC97.
However the big problem is my ball.
Every opponent of mine has testified that the DR98 produces a more penetrating ball, with more pace and weight, more difficult to return. The TC97 has this strange high launch angle that kinda reminds me of a pure aero, which my opponents find easier to return.
All in all if it wasn't for the feel, I would go back to the DR98 without a second thought, but now it's like I can't even play with it.
So, should I tinker with the TC97 16*19, should I buy a 18*20 version?
I am open to any suggestions really.
I was debating between a Head Gravity Tour, or Prince Textreme Tour 100p before I played with the TC97. Now all I care about is that solid sensation after hitting the ball.
Side note, I played with the Yonex 97HD and found it too demanding for my game.
Thanks a lot for any answers.
Also the demoing scene kinda sucks in Greece, none of the above frames is available for testing.
TLDR: Angel TC97 feels better, but Yonex DR98 plays better. What to do?
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Anyone actually transition from the TC95 to the TC97 successfully? I bought a V3 TC97 18x20 a few years ago but dismissed it after one two-hour hitting session, probably prematurely. I recently switched from the TC95 to the Wilson Ultra Tour, but I keep seeing comparisons between the UT and TC97 18x20. If they're in fact that similar, I'd like to look into the Angell a bit more and have an opportunity to pick up two TC97 18x20s at a steal. Any advice from the Angell faithful?
I knew about the difference in the pattern, that's why I thought maybe a 18*20 would be more suitable for a heavier ball.The DR 98 while a 16x19 however has a denser string pattern in the middle. It has 8 mains in the throat of the racquet compared to the six on the TC97. So how do you make the TC97 feel a bit denser and less launch angle. Choose a larger gauge string for one and if you want to lower the launch angle a bit try having the crosses a lb or two higher then your mains
Played the DR98 & actually moved to TC97 straight after. TC97 hits bigger in every department for me, swings faster with much slimmer beam. I suppose it depends on your style of play, I keep RHS high.Hello there,
I got my hands on a used TC97 16*19 racket to try. It's the 320 gram, 63 stiffness version.
All this time I 've been using a DR98, and never thought to change the racket until now.
I love the way the TC97 feels, it's a solid racket with great feedback. The DR98 in comparison feels hollow, like a tin can. I can't hit a ball with the DR98 now, without missing the TC97.
However the big problem is my ball.
Every opponent of mine has testified that the DR98 produces a more penetrating ball, with more pace and weight, more difficult to return. The TC97 has this strange high launch angle that kinda reminds me of a pure aero, which my opponents find easier to return.
All in all if it wasn't for the feel, I would go back to the DR98 without a second thought, but now it's like I can't even play with it.
So, should I tinker with the TC97 16*19, should I buy a 18*20 version?
I am open to any suggestions really.
I was debating between a Head Gravity Tour, or Prince Textreme Tour 100p before I played with the TC97. Now all I care about is that solid sensation after hitting the ball.
Side note, I played with the Yonex 97HD and found it too demanding for my game.
Thanks a lot for any answers.
Also the demoing scene kinda sucks in Greece, none of the above frames is available for testing.
TLDR: Angel TC97 feels better, but Yonex DR98 plays better. What to do?
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Hello there,
I got my hands on a used TC97 16*19 racket to try. It's the 320 gram, 63 stiffness version.
All this time I 've been using a DR98, and never thought to change the racket until now.
I love the way the TC97 feels, it's a solid racket with great feedback. The DR98 in comparison feels hollow, like a tin can. I can't hit a ball with the DR98 now, without missing the TC97.
However the big problem is my ball.
Every opponent of mine has testified that the DR98 produces a more penetrating ball, with more pace and weight, more difficult to return. The TC97 has this strange high launch angle that kinda reminds me of a pure aero, which my opponents find easier to return.
All in all if it wasn't for the feel, I would go back to the DR98 without a second thought, but now it's like I can't even play with it.
So, should I tinker with the TC97 16*19, should I buy a 18*20 version?
I am open to any suggestions really.
I was debating between a Head Gravity Tour, or Prince Textreme Tour 100p before I played with the TC97. Now all I care about is that solid sensation after hitting the ball.
Side note, I played with the Yonex 97HD and found it too demanding for my game.
Thanks a lot for any answers.
Also the demoing scene kinda sucks in Greece, none of the above frames is available for testing.
TLDR: Angel TC97 feels better, but Yonex DR98 plays better. What to do?
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It's difficult to modify a frame to get the optimal weight without sacrificing something. I also have a pair of K7 Red frames and experimented with adding weight. In stock form this frame doesn't have enough plow for my game. I now have 2 grams total at 10 and 2 and 1.5 grams on the butt of the handle. It's still a bit low powered for match play but I keep them in my bag. My main racquet now is the Prince Phantom 100p. It brings a bit more pop and control to the table. The 100P is quite forgiving and arm friendly. It would comparable to the TC 100 310 gram version which I have not played with.Same experience here. Switched from DR98 to a K7 Red and once I experienced that Angell feel, I was hooked. I also tried the Yonex 97HD.
I’ve now tried upping my tension, string gauge, and adding weight. While I found an added weight I liked, it also reminded me I’m now on the wrong side of 40 and that’s why I was trying to find a lighter frame to begin with so I’m going back to stock weight. I’m going to continue to play around with different strings and see if I can find one that helps me keep my topspin forehand more consistently in the court.
But I hear you on the feel. I honestly can’t play with my DR98 anymore knowing how my K7 Red feels now.
Today I did about 90 minutes of ball machine training and some serving with my 100 and 101 with identical specs. 27.5”. 320g, 305mm. B grip size 2 hybrid pro with 2 overgrips. Strung with Solinco Tour Bite 1.25mm @48M/50C.
The feel of the 101 moved in front of the 100 today when paired with the crisp feel of Tour Bite.
I started off with the 101 for the first load of balls and felt like I could not miss. I was hitting very heavy balls that penetrated the court and my flatter shots were mostly finding their mark. I had great success going down the line and finding my range. I could sense the dwell time and feel the ball take off from the strings, but did not have the trampolining that the 18g Hyper G produced sometimes in my last hitting session.
For the second load of balls, I used the 100. I immediately noticed a higher launch angle and a faster exit of the ball from the strings. The response reminded me of my Pure Drive Roddick +. I was able to hit big, but my range was a little tougher to dial in and there was some tendency for a few trampolines (i.e. controlled my racquet face angle and swing path similarly to a shot I just made, but the ball left on an unexpectedly higher trajectory and landed a little long). Where I saw an advantage in the 100 was with the free power when I was lazy with my footwork as I grew fatigued. I could see this coming in handy in a match situation on the run or deep into the match.
The 100 required me to use more spin for control. I was able to still control my range with the 101 even on flatter shots, which happens to be a big strength of mine. I grew up first learning the game mostly on fast low bouncing indoor hard courts and first learned to hit shots through the court. I added spin to my arsenal later on especially in the early 2000s when poly strings took off. On shots out of the strike zone (high) the 100 had an easier time of getting pop on the ball.
On volleys, the 101 took the lead with its feel and lower launch angle. I had an easier time hitting nice skidding offensive volleys with the 101. The 100 was better on overheads for absolute power although the ball was easier to place with the 101.
On flat serves, the 100 did very well with lots of power. If I missed, it was long. The 101 had a touch less power and if I missed, it was in the tape. (I do feel many misses were a result of switching back and forth - the launch angle difference is pronounced). On second serves, I have never had a great right bouncing kick (twist) serve. The 101 made it like cake - I’m talking big high right hops. Spin serves overall with the 101 were great. The extra dwell time allowed me to load up on the spin. With the 100, spin was still adequate but not up to the level of the 101. With the 100, my serving style would be using mostly pace and penetration. With the 101, my serving style would be using more spins and variety with the occasional heater.
At the end of today’s session I still don’t have a clear favorite. As we know, there are always trade offs with racquets and deciding which negatives to accept and which positives can help our game more is the key. I still feel like I need to find a matchup with a similar ability player and play some sets before I know for sure.
I am going to video my next session and maybe you all can look and see which racquet looks better for me.
TC95 and TC97 are practically the same racquet. I play with them interchangeably. If you overlay one over the other, you will see that they are identical. The only difference is the square profile of the shoulder beams on TC97. What this produces in practice is a stiffer frame. With TC97 you are getting more power, but are losing some comfort. I myself, prefer TC97: I welcome the extra power. In heavy hitting, and particularly, on serve, it is very noticeable. The level of comfort is manageable -- it stays above ProStaff 97 / Blade / Prestige Pro.
Wilson Ultra Tour 97 is nothing like TC95 or TC97. I am not sure how this rumor even came to be. UT is a very anemic / low power / low spin racquet -- pretty much the opposite of TC97 -- powerful, solid, frame that hits very penetrating ball and serves bombs.
I found the ultra tour to play a lot easier! Even weighted up to the same specs. The good thing about the UT is that you can customize the swingweight (which in my opinion is one of the most important specs).The TC97 is at the top of most peoples spec range already, with a strung swing weight around 330.
Hello there,
I got my hands on a used TC97 16*19 racket to try. It's the 320 gram, 63 stiffness version.
All this time I 've been using a DR98, and never thought to change the racket until now.
I love the way the TC97 feels, it's a solid racket with great feedback. The DR98 in comparison feels hollow, like a tin can. I can't hit a ball with the DR98 now, without missing the TC97.
However the big problem is my ball.
Every opponent of mine has testified that the DR98 produces a more penetrating ball, with more pace and weight, more difficult to return. The TC97 has this strange high launch angle that kinda reminds me of a pure aero, which my opponents find easier to return.
All in all if it wasn't for the feel, I would go back to the DR98 without a second thought, but now it's like I can't even play with it.
So, should I tinker with the TC97 16*19, should I buy a 18*20 version?
I am open to any suggestions really.
I was debating between a Head Gravity Tour, or Prince Textreme Tour 100p before I played with the TC97. Now all I care about is that solid sensation after hitting the ball.
Side note, I played with the Yonex 97HD and found it too demanding for my game.
Thanks a lot for any answers.
Also the demoing scene kinda sucks in Greece, none of the above frames is available for testing.
TLDR: Angel TC97 feels better, but Yonex DR98 plays better. What to do?
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I don’t visibly see a difference in the shots. The 101 feels nicer with a crisp string and the 100 feels more solid with a soft string. Hitting again today and I’m going to work on the transition game and volleys also.Here is the hitting session with both, as promised.
A TC100 63RA with additional matched specs for weight, etc is probably the closest racket from the custom line.Finally got on the court with my K7 Red (stupid rain getting in the way of my tennis).
Have put 2 grams of tungsten at 3&9. Put a shrink sleeve on the handle to make it a grip 5 for my man hands.
After 1 hour of play with stock racket at grip 4 and 4 hours of play (2x2 hour sessions) with weighted hoop and grip 5, I’m really enjoying the racket. Strings are K7 Red hybrid (halo 4 in mains) at 50 pounds.
Forehand requires clean technique and follow through, weight helps with the plough through. I’m still adjusting a bit but a sweetly struck shot really dips and if you get the length right it really kicks into your opponent.
At the net the racket is better than I thought (although I didn’t test that much in stock form so it may be the added weight helping out).
The real standout is the backhand. I have absolutely no idea why this is the case but it flowed through the shot in stock form, with the weight added my backhands (when hit well) absolutely fly with heavy spin. I have a single hander, maybe it’s the uniform flex through the whole racket, enhanced by the hoop weight giving more plough but my shots were nothing like this with the Wilson Clash. I actually ran around a few forehand shots so I could fire off a backhand!
I’m still tuning in the serve but it was consistent from the start, not worrying about double faults but getting my accuracy for positioning sorted. Not huge power but good spin, my serve is always the last thing to click with a new racket.
Overall, this is a decent stick, Ill need more time to gel with it but absolutely no discomfort, even with off centre hits, this racket is so comfortable.
Looks like I’ll play with this for a while to really get to know it before considering a custom Angell frame.
Just for my knowledge, does anybody know which custom racket from Angell most closely matches the feel of the K7 Red?
A TC100 63RA with additional matched specs for weight, etc is probably the closest racket from the custom line.
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What strings do you play with? Maybe switch to something with more pop? I went from DR98-> TC 100 and never looked back. However, the D beam construction of the TC100 is supposedly more powerful than the TC97 box beam.Both rackets are at 342 swingweight and 343 grams strung with the same balance. I am by no means a monster or a good player, but that's what I'm used to.
I would say I hit with a lot of spin. And I find it difficult to flatten the ball. I think it's the DR's lower launch angle that allows me to put more pace on the ball and feel flatter that my opponents find hard to return. The TC97 makes me control myself cause it's the one that catapults the ball if I put more pace, so I cannot give it my 100%. Maybe it's the way I'm used to expect the racket to behave and if I keep hitting with it I will learn to control it.
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I just noticed they no longer have the original TC95 in the custom section on the Angell website, only V3.
Is that right, they discontinued the TC95 classic?
I tried V3 as a replacement for my TC95 16x19 original, and it feels less comfortable, lower swingweight, snaller sweetspot.
Is the only way to get the original TC95 to buy a used one?
I think I found the problem. It's the launch angle combined with the racket's power.
My DR98 has lower power levels and launch angle, so I was used to creating more pace on the ball with the flatter trajectory to be penetrating.
The TC97 is more powerful and has a higher launch angle. With the same stroke as the DR98 it catapults the ball. If I aim to keep it in play by lowering the arm speed, the ball sits up for my opponent to do what he wants.
I need to put more spin in my strokes for the ball to dip more, so I am waiting on 3 shaped strings to try. Hyper-G 17g, Silver 7 Tour 17g and VCT 16g. I used only YPTP 1.25 and Max Power 1.30, didn't like Wilson Revolve Twist on my DR98 so I gave up on shaped strings back then.
If that doesn't work I am too old to learn new tricks, so most likely I will try whichever I find available between the TC97 18*20, Prince Textreme Tour 100p or Head Gravity Tour and work from there.
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I meant the original TC95, prior to V2. In the past, they had it as an option for a custom racquet on their website. For a while, two options were available, custom V3 and custom original TC95, or other.Yes, I think the V2 TC 95s were discontinued and sold out. The last V2 95 I saw on the website was 18x20, and it was on sale.
What was your experience with Max Power 1.30? Just curious to know.I think I found the problem. It's the launch angle combined with the racket's power.
My DR98 has lower power levels and launch angle, so I was used to creating more pace on the ball with the flatter trajectory to be penetrating.
The TC97 is more powerful and has a higher launch angle. With the same stroke as the DR98 it catapults the ball. If I aim to keep it in play by lowering the arm speed, the ball sits up for my opponent to do what he wants.
I need to put more spin in my strokes for the ball to dip more, so I am waiting on 3 shaped strings to try. Hyper-G 17g, Silver 7 Tour 17g and VCT 16g. I used only YPTP 1.25 and Max Power 1.30, didn't like Wilson Revolve Twist on my DR98 so I gave up on shaped strings back then.
If that doesn't work I am too old to learn new tricks, so most likely I will try whichever I find available between the TC97 18*20, Prince Textreme Tour 100p or Head Gravity Tour and work from there.
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What tension did you string Max Power at, and what gauge? I'm looking for a string to tame my TC 100.I had 2 different experiences in the 2 rackets.
Overall it's kinda stiff and not comfortable, no power contrary to the name and plays quite dead. There's no action and no pop on the string. Spin is good, maybe better than YPTP due to the lack of power you have wider margins to swing big and have higher RHS.
I like it on the TC97, but hate it on the DR98.
I think as a string it needs a really soft and powerful racket to shine. On a PD you'll have arm problems, on a Prestige you'll suffer to find depth imo. Angell rackets seem ideal for the string on paper.
Also tension maintenance is amazing. YPTP is a mess after 3-4h and total garbage after the 8-9h mark and breaks at around 13-14h. With Max Power I have clocked around 15h, and was still kinda good. I just restrung it tho cause it was getting stiffer because of the notching.
Might give it a shot. I was initially a little hesitant as it felt rather stiff as a cross for my gut mains. It barely budged/ bagged out when the gut broke after 4 hours. Thanks!It's the 16g at 23kg, when in comparison I string YPTP 17g at 25/24kg.
What are you looking for in your new racquet?Thinking of finally purchasing my first Angell racket after looking around for a long long time.
My question is this:
Which one?
There are so many options that it can be very confusing.
I'm currently playing with a DR98+ and a RF97.
I'm a big server with a somewhat flatter game and I hit some mean slices and dropshots. I also have a Ohbh if that matters at all.
Any ideas?
ps1. Has anyone tried the 28" version of any racket? I'm really curious about it...
ps2. I tried reading through the thread but it's so big that I get lost.
I came from the DR98+ too and ended up with the TC 100 27.5". More spin, more power, more comfort, more feel, more control.
What are you looking for in your new racquet?
Thinking of finally purchasing my first Angell racket after looking around for a long long time.
My question is this:
Which one?
There are so many options that it can be very confusing.
I'm currently playing with a DR98+ and a RF97.
I'm a big server with a somewhat flatter game and I hit some mean slices and dropshots. I also have a Ohbh if that matters at all.
Any ideas?
ps1. Has anyone tried the 28" version of any racket? I'm really curious about it...
ps2. I tried reading through the thread but it's so big that I get lost.
I also switched from a DR98 to my K7 Red recently. I was encountering the same catapult issue – especially on my forehand – when compared to my DR98. After a lot of trial and error – different strings and adding different weight in different areas – I'm back to stock weight and found a string – full bed of Halo Spin 7 (1.25) at 50lbs – that seems to lower the launch angle and allow me to take full strokes with confidence again. I played with it for a few sets and a tiebreaker this morning and I finally felt like I had good directional control, significant power, and the ability to take full cuts. Even when I was missing, I knew I missing because I was out of position or over swung, not because the racket and strings didn't perform as I expected.
Today was day one with the Halo Spin 7 strings. I'm playing again tomorrow morning and will report back. My only concern right now is how my elbow will hold up as it's definitely stiffer than what I've been playing with. I'm hopeful that the low RA on the K7 Red will allow me to play a mid-stiff poly again though as that's definitely my string of choice if my elbow can handle it.
Regarding shaped strings, I also played with Volkl V-Squared (1.30) and that's a spin monster. I liked it but I broke it in about 2 hours the first time and 45 minutes the second time.
Played again this morning (day two) for 2 hours and definitely started feeling it in my elbow about 30 minutes in with the fully bed of Halo Spin 7 in my K7 Red. I switched to my backup K7 Red which I still have strung as a hybrid with Halo 4 in the mains and Halo Touch in the crosses. It definitely felt much better elbow-wise but my control suffered. I'm not surprised as the Halo Spin 7 is significantly stiffer than any full bed poly I've played with recently. I'm going to now try two different hybrid set ups – Halo Spin 7 in the mains in both and then one with Halo Four in the crosses, and one with Halo Touch in the crosses. Hopefully one of them should be the happy medium I'm looking for without any elbow pain. I think I'm getting closer to something I can stick with for awhile though.
If you;re just looking to muck around, the TC97 will be most comparable to the RF97 with its box beam design.How do you feel about the 100" head, because I generally seem to find them a bit unwieldy. Not that it affects my game, it's just that the feeling that I get is like the racket is lagging through the air.
Well... You caught me. It's not really that I have a problem with any of my current rackets, or I seek something more from them, as much that I've heard many good things about the Angell rackets and want to try one...
Edit: I guess the one thing I would like, is for it to play as close as possible to the Rf97 while being slightly less heavy?
Beacuse after playing for 2-2.5 hours, sometimes it starts being harder to play effectively.
If you;re just looking to muck around, the TC97 will be most comparable to the RF97 with its box beam design.
I didn't find the switch too jarring. The isometric Yonex head shape makes the 98 play like a 100+ anyway. Angells have an oval head shape so the TC100 is actually skinnier than the DR98.