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    There is too much ignorance here regarding nadal...

    I am proud of this thread ☺️
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    Djokodal since ‘09 Madrid

    I wouldn't. Winning 21 Wimbledon would be such an utterly ridiculous achievement than it alone qualifies someone to be considered in the GOAT debate. I mean you make it sound like it's easy for a 7 foot servebot to win Wimbledon, it really isn't as we can see by the history of winners. Sent...
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    Federer - one stat that no-one may ever break!!

    Novak has to win 2 more USO to do that which isn't exactly an impossible situation.
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    Federer - one stat that no-one may ever break!!

    Yes Federer is the GOAT of consecutive records. His GS final, SF and QF streaks are absolutely unbelievable and probably the hardest to beat of all his records.
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    “We all stop or none of us stop”

    Sounds like a ridiculous statement with a 6 year age gap. You bet Djokovic doesn't mean it at all. He is here to conquer all records and will give it everything his body has to offer. Same goes for Nadal but he didn't make this statement.
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    Big 3 and their most successful tournaments

    It's definitely worse. 4 runner ups are better than no runner ups. Like how is this even a discussion?
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    Nadal in 2017-2019.....5 Slams....1-4 h2h against Fedalovic in the Slams

    Nadal has had enough big match wins over the big 3 that he doesn't need them anymore for credibility.
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    Balanced slam distribution is better? Think again

    Let's suppose a player emerges in the near future that manages to win 20 GS at an exact distribution of 5-5-5-5. What happens there? That player wouldn't be the GOAT of anything and that would be deemed the biggest hole in their resume. There is no objectivity to slam distribution and it is a...
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    Nadal's chances to finish the year as No 1,if he wins the title?

    In my opinion he should only play the WTF if he wins USO. If he can still become no. 1 then great otherwise leave it. YE no. 1 is a useless stat in my opinion and it won't change even if Nadal ends up with 5. Weeks at no. 1 is the real deal and yes it would be nice to get to 200 weeks but is...
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    What is the point of the way tennis is structured as a whole today, if Rafa can win two slams not facing his two main rivals (who beat him in two

    What are you talking about? He beat Federer at the FO. And Thiem is arguably his biggest rival on clay whom he beat in the final. And really Nadal has not won the USO yet. He was looking good last year too and then got injured in the SF. So save all this talk after he has actually won.
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    Nadal and the toughest stat in tennis.....

    So does the same go for making a comeback from match points down? You let your opponent get to that point so who cares right?
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    It's not as special as holding all 4 twice but it's more special for me than doing it once. I mean a record which minimum requires 8 GS is by default superior to one that requires 4. Streaks are incredibly over rated for the GOAT debate as far as I am concerned. I could as well argue winning 1...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    No that's not what I meant. Winning all majors twice or more. No one has done that in the modern era so it would be a really special achievement whenever it happens.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    It's not as special as being the only player in history to win each GS at least twice. If only Novak had won the FO you guys would have been all over the place about how special that is. But now of course being number 3 at Wimbledon is more special lmao. And well beating Federer in 3 finals is...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Yes Fed has achieved that. What are you even talking about? Do you even know what a career slam is?
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    A double career GS would be a big achievement especially since no one else has it. 5 wimbledon ties him with 3rd place, nothing special about it compared to a double career slam.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Except again that wasn't what I replied to. Someone said that Djokovic leads Wimbledon H2H 2-0 so I just corrected them. You are way too annoyed and desperate that your man does not dominate Nadal. Oh and last time I checked I can stay wherever the hell I want.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Nadal has beaten him at Wimbledon that was the discussion. Not about number of sets. So go cry at a corner.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Ah yes so getting injured in the 3rd set being down a double break and 2 sets is not a loss. Right. [emoji1787][emoji1787]
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Jesus Christ you guys are just hopeless with your off clay arguments. Kudos to Nadal for dominating a surface so brutally that people have started this desperate argument. I am truly done with this non sense argument.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Yes he has gotten better but has not established a material lead overall yet. Dominance is over a career not over a few years. Nadal dominated Djokovic for a lot of years and that COUNTS when we compare the H2H battles between the 2. And given their similar age all the matches they have played...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Hey not my job to cure delusions. You don't have to be so butthurt. Chances are looking good for your man to eclipse Nadal but as of right now he is behind. It's as simple as that.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Never said Nadal leads H2H. I simply stated that Novak has not dominated Nadal in his career because he has a slender overall H2H lead where as he trails in the GS H2H. Both Novak and Nadal dominate Federer that's what domination looks like. Off clay or only clay are both irrelevant arguments...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Wrong info. Wimbledon Novak leads 2-1 and Nadal leads USO 2-1.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Have you even been following this thread? I merely replied to a comment which suggested that Djokovic dominated Nadal. Leading the H2H by 2 wins does not equal dominance. Then when we further break down slam H2H we see that Nadal leads overall and on 2 slams. If that's "dominance" then fine I...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Sure I guess he wouldn't trade the AO record. But you honestly think he would rather finish his career with 5 wimbledon and 1 RG instead of 4 wimbledon and 2 RG? That would be pretty stupid. Yes right now he would probably only trade a USO for FO but that's because he senses a minute chance...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    lolz we are talking about H2H not career achievements nice try though. They have only faced each other twice at AO, it took Djokovic 7 tries to beat him at RG. Because Djokovic isn't as dominant on AO as Nadal is on RG so Nadal played 3 AO finals without having to face Djokovic. So it isn't...
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    Dude I was never arguing that he dominated the tour more than Novak. I quoted the post which suggested that Novak dominated Nadal which at this moment in time is simply not true. Maybe in 2 years time it will but that's an if for now.
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    Djokovic's Victory seems to have garnered a lot of publicity

    But Tennis existed before 2011(shocking I know) and domination is looked at on a career level not with cherry picked time periods.
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