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  1. Spencer Gore

    So how does Rafa rank among the HC best winning percentage of all time for 200 plus matches played?

    Nadal is clearly an ATG on hard courts. It's indoors that he's relatively poor. That's why he hasn't won the Tour Finals.
  2. Spencer Gore

    Official : Nadal ending the year as #10 in the race

    In that case you need to spend less time looking in the mirror and more time studying the history of tennis.
  3. Spencer Gore

    Official : Nadal ending the year as #10 in the race

    So, just saying things you don't believe to try and start an argument. One of the things that ruins forums like these.
  4. Spencer Gore

    Official : Nadal ending the year as #10 in the race

    So Federer's game hadn't declined by 2017, in your opinion?
  5. Spencer Gore

    Official : Nadal ending the year as #10 in the race

    Rafa's certainly no longer the player he was. Hasn't been for quite a few years as the hard court meetings with Federer proved, but at his peak he was, along with Djokovic, one of the two greatest players of the Poly Era.
  6. Spencer Gore

    There can be only the Big 3...2.....1?

    Anyone who follows Piers Morgan should immediately have their opinion ignored.
  7. Spencer Gore

    There can be only the Big 3...2.....1?

    Piers Morgan! You know Feds in trouble when Morgan is having to defend his honour.
  8. Spencer Gore

    There can be only the Big 3...2.....1?

    It is truly a remarkable accomplishment. Djokovic and Nadal are obviously now clear of Federer due to the Masters 1000 titles plus slams plus H2H but even if Novak sneaks ahead with another Masters 1000 title, Nadal could theoretically edge back ahead next season if Novak stumbles at the AO and...
  9. Spencer Gore

    There can be only the Big 3...2.....1?

    Will next year see Djokovic and Nadal pull away to be joint slam leaders on 21 slams, becoming the Big 2? Then will Djokovic pull away to win his 22nd slam, becoming the Big One? I have to admit, this is becoming more and more like the movie Highlander. There can be only one! And at this...
  10. Spencer Gore

    Who will hold the records?

    Prize money isn't one of the great tennis achievements, no matter who holds the record. The records don't care which players I like or dislike. They are neutral. If Federer isn't on the list when the dust settles that'll be his fault, not mine.
  11. Spencer Gore

    Federer in the top ten of highest paid athletes of all time

    No darts players? Mind you, Jocky Wilson was often paid in pints of lager.
  12. Spencer Gore

    Who will hold the records?

    T This is a table of achievements over the entire history of tennis. Prize money/Endorsements are irrelevant. Money used to be handed out in brown envelopes under the table, once upon a time. How are you going to count that?
  13. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Of the all-time greats only Tilden, Cochet, Borotra, Gonzales, Rosewall, Emerson, Laver, Connors, Lendl, Agassi, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic won much after turning 27.
  14. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Can you not see how embarrassing this is for Federer? That his fans have to draw such tight restrictions around things to make any claims for him. Using the history of tennis means the over 27 year old thing is exposed as nonsense; restricting it to the Open Era doesn't work either as the over...
  15. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    No, it wasn't. And even if it was, Laver won the Grand Slam at 31 and Rosewall won multiple slams after 30 in the Open Era, so Federer pioneered ZERO. Come back when you've learned the very basics about tennis. It's getting embarrassing watching Federer fans tying themselves into knots to avoid...
  16. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Far from citing individual cases at random I am specifically citing the greatest players of all time. Let's collate the data set of a generally agreed possible ATG Top Ten. TILDEN (Am) Before 27 -0 slams After 27 -10 slams GONZALES (Am/Pro) Before 27 -5 slams After 27 - 7 slams ROSEWALL...
  17. Spencer Gore

    So if Federer was a weak era champion

    He's not a GOAT candidate. Neither is Federer. It's between Laver and Djokovic.
  18. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    What are you talking about? Rosewall won the slams in his 30s in the Open Era. As did Laver. So Rosewall and Laver were the Open Era pioneers for players over 30. Rosewall the pioneer for over 35s. Are you sure you're on the right forum? This is a place for tennis fans.
  19. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Rosewall played into his 30s at the highest level. So Federer wasn't the pioneer. Laver also won the Grand Slam at 31, so the idea that players always started to deteriorate at 27/28 years of age is just ignorant nonsense. Tilden didn't win the first of his ten slams till he was 27. Maybe if...
  20. Spencer Gore

    Djoker breaks tie with Roger

    Congratulations Novak. Another well deserved record. Pretty hard for anyone to argue you're not the greatest of the 21st century with the sheer volume of records you hold.
  21. Spencer Gore

    So if Federer was a weak era champion

    This whole thread is built on a fallacy. Just because the era that Federer dominated was weak doesn't mean Federer was weak. He's one of the ten greatest players to ever lift a racquet. The reason he dominated a period so completely on two of the three surfaces was the combination of his...
  22. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Never heard of Ken Rosewall, then? The ignorance of the basics of the game around here never ceases to amaze me.
  23. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    Why not? He had won ten grass tournaments in a row before that. 2008 was the first time he lost. And he lost to the player he defeated in the two previous five set grass court finals. That's when he first lost after a very long sequence of winning on a surface. He never regained his dominance...
  24. Spencer Gore

    So if Federer was a weak era champion

    A meaningless post. Every part of sports discussions outside of bare statistics is subjective. That's the whole point of a debate.
  25. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    What? Like the difference between easily beating a player in straight sets in one final then struggling to beat him in five sets four years later? Is one win clearly better than the other there?
  26. Spencer Gore

    So if Federer was a weak era champion

    Why not? He won it the year before and the year after and Federer had entered a decade long period where he couldn't beat Nadal in a slam.
  27. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    You're saying if a player wins a tournament they have won before it means their overall game hasn't declined? So Federer's game hadn't declined between 2007 and 2017 using your logic, as he won the same tournament both years.
  28. Spencer Gore

    Why did Federer's grass game decline so badly after the 2008 final?

    I know that complexity and subtlety are not your thing but please read the opening post if you're going to contribute: "Before Roger Federer played the 2008 Wimbledon final he had won his previous 10 grass tournaments in a row. The next ten tournaments, starting with Wimbledon, saw Federer win...
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