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This is going nowhere...we are going around the circles, i already expressed how i feel about the situation from the pov of a Novak fan...you are not Novak fan, so you won't understand...there is not much else left to discuss here...

For being cheeky and cocky...there are thousands of other gestures she might have chosen, that wouldn't be insulting or disrespectful to Novak, but she chose that...justice served! LOL

No you can't...there is no such thing...i can argue with you on that all day long if you want, you won't convince me otherwise...

This is not how it works...when you know something then you know, you don't have to pretend...there is no such thing as "fooling oneself" it's a myth...now you can LIE about something you like or don't like, but that's whole different story...concealing that knowledge from others is not the same...

This is a weird question...kind of an oxymoron, because if you know that you are pretending to like something it means you know for sure you don't really like it on the first place, so the whole purpose of "pretending" is defeated...LOL

Finger lady happened...karma in other words...

I actually both don't like it and hate to read TTW users complain about it...so i just decided to jump on bandwagon, why the heck not? LOL

Right...and what was Nadal's excuse to keep dodging Novak like that for the duration of entire decade or so outside of his pet surface? Was he suddenly get injured in every single one of those instances? You are bringing up Novak's worst period...so my question is Nadal's period from 2014 till...

Yes, everyone "noticed" that was like on everyone's mouth ever since tournament is concluded...LOL

Sometimes i can't tell whether these kind of threads are actually serious or just plain trolling...neither do i care at this point...

Nastase is an ATG, that won at least 6 slams??...:rolleyes:

My point is simple if you don't win ANY titles of any level you are simply not a good player on that surface as simple as that...it's not rocket science! His clay courts resume is heavily skewed in favour of all other surfaces way too much for anything, that he ever achieved on clay to ever...

20th grand slam title sealed it for me personally...before that they were in the same tier! Basically my logic is that anyone in the "teens" slam range is in the tier above over those with single digit slam wins ranging from 6 to 8 titles, but tier lower compared to those who breached 20+ slam...

Becker didn't win any titles on clay, what are you talking about??...i don't see it in statistics anywhere...on UTS it says his clay record is 66.3% (120 match wins and 61 losses...), no mention of clay titles of any sort...

Between those ATGs with 6 slams or more, that never managed to win grand slam title on clay, so between Edberg, McEnroe and Sampras who do you think was better on clay? I omitted Becker, because his stats are just plain embarassing on clay even by Edberg/McEnroe/Sampras standards...and i omitted...

Dude i agree but seriously, you could have just said: 2, 3, 6, 3 -> 0, 6, 0, 1 and you would have already won the argument! LMAO Things you are talking about and bring up are just additional statistics, titles are more important and this is where Djokovic is head and shoulders above Federer at...

This is prediction for 2023, not 2024...

It's not really the same...every other stat he highlighted works in this "combined stats" context, because even when separated Agassi will still have his 100+ weeks and Sampras will still have his almost 300 weeks...same for slam count, masters count and everything else listed...it's not quite...

That's not really how that works, is it?...

Sorry, but i just don't care for the Pique Cup i really really don't...good for Novak playing for his country, but ugh...i wanna see highlights from real tournament, like you know Bercy or YEC...the sooner November starts - the better...

ugh...since when either one between Sampras or Agassi achieved NCYGS? Did i miss something?...

I know who you were talking about! Both will be bested by Djokovic at least at both Bercy and YEC! Carlos will just lose before semis at Bercy and probably will lose his semis match at YEC later...Medvedev maybe will reach finals of both, but will lose both times to Djoko...Haha

This year? nowhere! Next year he will likely have his cake or two...but Djoko will sweep Bercy-YEC...

Not gonna happen! Djokovic to win Bercy-YEC back-to-back to end the year as #1!...just you watch!...Carlitos will also underperform at both Asian swing and indoor year-end swing!

Wow poor Ferrero! Even Cilic and Medvedev snatched at least single vote so far! LOL

Not everything, but in this particular instance it seems fitting, no?...

Laver Cup 2022 really felt like Avengers: End Game of the Laver Cups didn't it? You can only go downwards from that, just look at pathetic Phase 4 of the MCU...Laver Cup 2023 seems like it took notes Haha

Because if math is your friend 5 finals advantage is more than one match advantage in h2h, not to mention that number of finals reached is a more telling statistics as far as grand slam dominance is concerned! How many quarter or semi-finals did Nadal reach compared to Novak? Consistency over...

Before Djoko's boob throw and Shelton's phone hang up will pour in...i wanna say Youzhny's salute kind of sticked up with me! And i know there are good chunk of people here, who think they are all kind of cringey, but whatever, i personally don't think they are all bad, most of them are, but...

Wawrinka...yes this might shock my fellow NoleFam...but yes, it is true!