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The list is objective as it can reasonably be. You are misunderstanding what "objective" means. Objective stats have to be factual - repeatable, reproducible, verifiable bla bla - that's all. You are confusing it with "valuable", "meaningful". Timnz's list may (most definitely) not be valuable...

50 years later, one would still see Sabratha debating Hewitt vs Murray on these forums.. :) Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

1. Surely not. Novak wasn't outlasting Rafa, he was matching him in terms of defence and outhitting him. Nadal surely had to improve his offence there. 2. Sure enough, if we account for both W+FE you get the result 2008 semi had better aggression than 2007 final. But by the same token you get...

I'm trying to find the significance of the 12 that separated fedal in 2007. The more I think of it I just do not know how to interpret those stats. 2007 FO final: Nadal 30 W, 52 FE (winning 136 of 255 points) 2008 FO semi: Nadal 23 W, 57 FE (winning 108 of 198 points) 2008 FO final: Nadal 46 W...

1. I don't know what's not clear about my point on offence vs defence. Against aggressive players you need great defence to avoid surprise losses. Which is why it think Isner couldn't have pushed Nadal to five sets during 05-09 timeframe. But when you pit Rafa vs Djokovic or Rafa vs Nadal who...

Let me summarise by points. This is becoming an endless typing contest. 1. 2008 Nadal vs 2013 Nadal on clay is tough. If I have to bet my money is on 2013. I'm doubtful Nadal 2008 could have had a higher gear like Nadal 2013 against djokovic in the semis. Again remember I'm measuring direct...

I think OP meant grass as a whole not just Wimbledon. On grass vs top 10, Nadal - 73% Federer - 65% Correct me if I'm wrong. Not a useful stat anyway. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Some points I disagree, some points u didn't get me. I don't get the need for condescending tone though. I don't have an agenda here. By good offence beating good defence what I meant is if you have an equally good offensive game vs defensive game the offender comes on top more often than the...

Not entirely agreeing with Norman here but in the case of Rafa he might have a point. I re-watched Nadal vs Federer French Open 2007 final 2 days ago and the difference in Nadal's game is so evident. He moved better but his offensive arsenal was just poor. This often comes up on these boards...

Unlikely high those numbers. Could you tell how you found those numbers from tennisabstract? Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

It surprised me neither Thiem nor Wawrinka hit any BH winners (that I can remember) against Nadal on Philippe Chatrier which they wouldn't have any problem hitting on another court, say Rome. I haven't seen stats on this, but just my observation. In fact I don't remember any BH shot that forced...

Federer hints at weak era right there! [emoji3] Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

This was the 50th French Open in the Open era. Nadal has won 1/5 of those. [emoji7] Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

~1500 posts for a match that barely lasted 2 hours? Interesting Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

That's how it is to watch from stands :( For me tv experience is always better. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Yup. The balls were flying just so damn high yesterday and Thiem just had to pull back. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

I honestly don't see Wawrinka winning tomorrow. Maybe a set at best. The only thing going for him is he is generally mentally tough, plays relaxed even when down. That's dangerous. If I have to bet, Nadal wins losing no more than 15 games. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Yes I do think the competition isn't great at all. Last year's Novak would have no trouble beating this year's Rafa. Both no.1 and 2 not at their best, Roger totally missing from clay, the Ferrers, Berdychs, Tsongas, Nishikoris who fill the rest of the top 10 are all essentially missing. Two...

Compared to his prime years? Nothing special. Just better than last few years. If I have to rank, 2013 > 2017 > 2016 > 2014 > 2015 (his absolute worst) In 2016 he was playing as good as this year except to lose out to injury. His form at 2014 RG from QF onwards was better than 2016 as a whole...

I always maintained that. Some folks here see it differently. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Would like to see Nadal ending up winning the most titles at the third clay masters event as well. Right now Fed leads the Hamburg-Madrid combo with 6 wins. Nadal is at 4 :) Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Rosol is too good Nadal is not winning! ;) No I didn't think he was a name big enough to add him there. Of course there are Muller, Haase, Petzschner etc. Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

Kyrgios to rule grass, Zverev to rule hard, Thiem to rule clay. Goffin overall the best player ;) Sent from my NEM-L22 using Tapatalk

My dream draw for Nadal for Wimbledon, Brown Anderson Karlovic Potro/Cilic Lopez/Tsonga Kyrgios Raonic Rafa withstands onslaught of big serves to reclaim his prowess on the surface.

Understandable given Nadal didnt have to face Djoker in semis often unlike certain Swiss, so ;)

#diggingTime ;)

Who really lost was Djokovic fans. Had Dimi won they would be rooting for him in hopes of preventing another slam for Roger/Rafa. Furthermore, could have made a case for this era's being strong ;)

An effort to find all mugs. Not the fairest of comparisons but added a few players from weak era for the heck of it ;). Roddick, Hewitt, Safin and Tsonga did pretty OK. Rest need mug certification. Source, in case anyone wants to add: https://dotnetfiddle.net/XuATxY

Nishikori vs Big 4: 8-32 (20%) Big 4 + Wawrinka + Del Potro: 12-40 (23%) Top 4: 8-32 (20%) Top 5: 13-37 (26%) Players ranked higher: 85-92 (48%) Nothing spectacular, pretty average. Still dont think he deserves ridiculing like 2-5000. 8 wins against Big4 is solid.

His comment no way indicates long distance is jogging or anything you have said.