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    2024 18+ 4.0M Preview

    Southern Combo Sectionals remains one of the most fun events. Every player on every line is at least at the very top of their level. Hell, most have already been bumped up anyways. For the most part, everybody is overly friendly and it's usually pretty drama-free in my experience. Great energy...
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    The dreaded EOY Rating thread

    I get what you're saying, and I only disagree to the extent that I think that's a different kind of self-awareness. I get that their mentality is trying to get better, but they also lack the self-awareness of realizing that they don't actually improve by just getting their butt kicked 1 & 1 all...
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    The dreaded EOY Rating thread

    I've said this before, but the number of people who play up despite having no business playing up is appalling. I've seen dudes who have appealed back up to 4.0 from getting bumped down to 3.5 and then they indicate that they want a spot on a 4.5 team if needed to fill out a roster. There's no...
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    The dreaded EOY Rating thread

    Does anybody actually check TLS for anything?
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    Greivance against a self rate player

    Yes, and had it successfully upheld. Player was DQ'd. DM me for details if you want them.
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    The dreaded EOY Rating thread

    Yup. It's a bit frustrating for sure. I'm a 3.97 on TR, and 3.94 according to schmke. That said, I have multiple matches against self-rated players that aren't factored in for either as well as NTRP tournament play that isn't factored in. FWIW, the year I was bumped to 4.0, I had a 3.49 on TR...
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    I think I might quit tennis

    Sounds like you're undergoing a bit of an existential crisis with the "there will always be somebody better" mentality. With that attitude, what's the point of doing anything for fun? Even for the world's top ranked tennis player, they don't win every match or stay world number 1...
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    In 2024 all tri level and combo leagues count towards ranking

    I believe yes for Tri-Level, but not Combo. and yes for sanctioned NTRP tournaments in Southern.
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    Limit to number of players on a team playing up?

    where i live, you can play in 3 different usta local leagues and each have different rules regarding minimum number of on-level players. For spring season (18+) we have roster caps of 15. - one area has no rule regarding minimum number of on-level players; - one area requires 4 players...
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    Mixed Doubles Question for Guys

    better match experience all around if the women are higher rated on both teams, but the current winning strategy (which has been discussed ad nauseum) is to have the man be higher rated. that said, Southern switched to on-level (3.5/4.0/4.5) mixed as opposed to combined level (7.0/8.0/9.0)...
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    They need to do away with Tri level leagues

    Then somebody should tell USTA Southern who put this out in the 2024 Tri-Level rules. Section 5, 2nd paragraph: "A player may not be dynamically promoted based on match results from Southern Tri-Level program, but match results will be calculated in year-end NTRP computer ratings."...
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    They need to do away with Tri level leagues

    Tri Level is plenty fun. So is spring league, so is Combo, so is mixed. If one of these leagues doesn't go over well in your area, it's likely more a local issue than it is a USTA Section or national issue. we had 9 teams in our area for 3.5/4.0/4.5 Tri Level this past season. Was a fun and...
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    What is the cutoff?

    There's something to be learned from each and every match, regardless of the gap. Obviously you don't want the gap to be too wide with frequency, but there's always something to be learned. Even if that something is serve placement, attacking the approach shots (if you're playing somebody much...
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    usta league rant

    not talking about the high level amateur tourneys, most amateur tournaments/leagues are club based. some are open to non-members, but most aren't. It's not really organized on a national basis for amateurs like USTA is. Like when you're talking high level amateur tourneys, you're talking the US...
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    usta league rant

    I think league play is more key to amateur tennis than to golf b/c when it comes down to it...you can play the game of golf and follow all rules with just yourself as the primary opponent. You can't play the game of tennis solo, nor can you play without having a winner and loser. You can rally...
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    Club vs Park Players

    few things better than another revived zombie thread...but i'll bite. in my area, public courts are aplenty, and there's even public indoor courts. lots of people are club members for the clinics/clay court access/swimming pools/golf/etc., but also play on public park courts routinely. Myself...
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    What are the "Rules" for the Warm-Up with Opponent Before a Match?

    if it's States (districts) or Sectionals and limited to a 5 minute warmup that's actually enforced, why would anybody waste time on mini tennis/short court? I think we do mini tennis in the warm up about half the time (usually a 10-15 minute warmup before a league match if we're being honest)...
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    TR and UTR not updating

    Clinging to TR for anything other than a centrally located way to see a player's total match results for that year/prior years and easily search common opponents is unwise, IMO. TR's handling of self-rates is erratic, and the weighting of district/sectional/national championships makes it so...
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    How to correct a discussion about the number of games won?

    only time I touched property law in my entire career was on the bar exam where we had an adverse possession under color of title essay question. Once the bar exam was done, I stayed in my employment law lane. lol.
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    How to correct a discussion about the number of games won?

    you're out here trying to convey blackacre on a tennis court and I won't stand for it. lol.
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    Do you play level 5 USTA Tournaments? What attracts you to those events?

    Level of NTRP tournament typically doesn't mean a whole lot to the average player. for adults, the level of tourney is really only good for attracting the people chasing points to make it to NTRP nationals. Sure, those exist, but the majority of your field is going to be made up of local players...
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    Is your rating gap widening?

    Mine is, but I think it's not ENTIRELY skill related and more that I just don't record a lot of official singles matches. My doubles UTR is a 6.7 and my singles UTR is a 5.7, but I don't play a lot of USTA singles because I'm a solid/high 4.0 doubles player for my teams and we have multiple...
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    The most delusional player you ever met?

    I'm not sure it's delusion, or just overly ambitious...but we have a couple guys locally who are lower-end 3.5 who always latch on to a 4.0 team (a different one each year) and ONLY play 4.0. They just get destroyed every match unless their opponents are also mid/low 3.5s (which is rare). We're...
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    how are your usta league coordinators?

    The local league coordinator has a say in player distribution in your area?
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    League coordinator screwed my team over pretty good

    This is nuts. We have some crazy stories in NC, but every LLC I've seen here has been pretty accommodating on getting makeups done even past the "season deadline" as long as it's before the deadline to submit your teams for Districts (States).
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    Mixed Doubles

    the unbalanced pairings work better at higher levels because the play quality (don't want to say "talent" b/c there's more that goes into it than that) gaps between ratings are wider the higher you go. The gap between a 3.0 and 3.5 is not a super wide gap, 3.5 to 4.0 is a bit wider, and so...
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    Server's partner starting in center of court-ok to just go at him?

    Sounds to me like he's well-aware his partner is weaker and has a weaker serve, and is actually trying to tempt you into going at him/down the line b/c going down the line is a lower percentage shot than going cross-court. And he'd probably rather have the point on his racquet than his...
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    TennisRecord.com question

    I'm assuming the TR people are on vacation b/c it hasn't updated in my area in like 3 weeks. lol. But yes, the people who say ignore TR are largely correct and please god don't obsess over what TR claims your dynamic is. TR wasn't really accurate at all with predicting the bumps in our local...
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    At-Level Requirement

    Yes, 4.5/5.0 teams play against the 4.0/4.5 teams and keep it far closer than it really should be. These are usually high level 4.5s/5.0s who dont want to get bumped to 5.0/5.5 (5.5 of course is a USTA league death sentence), 5.0 drastically reduces league play in our area, but it still exists...
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