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    I never realized just how ridiculous Chris Evert's levels of consistency were

    Thanks BTURNER for reposting and including the link to my original post on Evert's hard court record. Reading it again, I'm even more impressed with her record!!
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    I never realized just how ridiculous Chris Evert's levels of consistency were

    What is your source for Margaret Court's record of 110-11 on hard courts? When Court played, there were VERY FEW women's events on hard courts. Very few! Court won the South African Open on hard courts a few times, and a 4 woman event in Hilton Head in 1973, but I don't believe Court played...
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    Steffi Graf - most versatile/complete player of all time

    AND, Steffi Graf is THE ONLY PLAYER - MAN or WOMAN - Who won all 4 majors..... AND SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED EACH MAJOR TITLE!! AND.... Steffi Graf successfully defended all 4 major titles on her first defense! AND.... Steffi Graf is the ONLY PLAYER to WIN ALL 4 Major titles.....AT LEAST 4 TIMES!
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    Who was better Seles vs Graf

    For the record, no one, NO ONE DISALLOWED Seles to grunt during 1992 Wimbledon. There was no rule, and there is still no rule about no grunting. Seles' opponents Tauziat and Navratilova both complained about the grunting, claiming some kind of hindrance. Which is absolute B.S. They're both...
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    The curious case of Gastón Gaudio

    Whatever alleged psychological problems Gaston Gaudio may have had, he has 1 thing a million tennis players don't have that Gaudio does. And that is the winning trophy from one of the 4 major tennis tournaments. One of the highest achievements in the sport. Good on Gaudio for overcoming those...
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    Who was better Seles vs Graf

    Darling, dearest. Love of my life - Thank you so much for your kindness. Helping me understand this 'new, complicated Math.' I get it now. The 'new' Math means qualifying words. Such as "peak Seles". Because afterall, YOU know what "peak Seles" means. It's so..... well black-and-white. Like 10...
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    Who was better Seles vs Graf

    OK, I admit it. It's the 'new' Math that's tripping me up. If I could just understand this new Math then I would have no problem recognizing that 'Seles was better than Graf.' I mean, it should be easy, right? Tell me if I got it right Professor Selestial: 5 is better or more than 10. That's...
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    Who was better Seles vs Graf

    Oh joy. Oh rapture. A topic that's never been discussed before. How exciting. How novel. How interesting. Reminder: Selestials are like cockroaches. Just when you think you've gotten rid of them, they return. Folks: no matter how many posts, polls, wishing, wanting, and waiting you do, it...
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    Sabatini: Graf's great rival?

    Sabatini's rivalry with Graf from 1990-1992 was the only time Steffi had a true rival. Afterall, Gaby found a way to beat Graf 5 consecutive times in a period of 6 months, on clay, hard courts, and indoors. No player was ever able to do that against Graf when she was #1. And yup, that includes...
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    Sabatini: Graf's great rival?

    For the record, Seles never had to "claw her way back up." She was given a co-Number 1 ranking and entry and seeding of #1 into every tournament despite not playing for 27 months.
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    Sabatini: Graf's great rival?

    I guess being born 12 years AFTER Martina may have had something to do with it?!
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    Chris Evert- Underappreciated.

    Did someone call my name? I did create this thread a few years ago. 'Chris Evert's hardcourt record ain't too shabby'. And yes, I rank Evert ahead of Navratilova on hard courts, looking at their career records on the surface...
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    Evert - underrated power?

    The thing about Evert and Durr and hitting with power. To use a quote from Game of Thrones, "Power is power." You can't refute power. But.......what kind of power is it? Chris Evert was considered to have 'underrated' power. Largely because she came up in the wood era, was just average size...
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    The Vilas #1 Debate Continues...

    Hmmmm..... I'm a fan of "the proof is in the pudding." So, I want to see that 'pudding.' I want to taste it, smell it, touch it. When I do that, I will know it is real. In the mean time, back to my kitchen. I've been working "for years" preparing the perfect pudding recipe. * Everyone *...
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    The Vilas #1 Debate Continues...

    It may not be "rocket science", but it is science -- actual data that proves Vilas achieved a ranking that designated him as #1 on a computer ranking system. So where is that data? The proof? I've not seen it. Only read a lot of opinions about it.
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    The Vilas #1 Debate Continues...

    It may not be "rocket science", but it is science -- actual data that proves Vilas achieved a ranking that designated him as #1 on a computer ranking system. So where is that data? The proof? I've not seen it. Only read a lot of opinions about it.
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    The Vilas #1 Debate Continues...

    I've read the reports and all the opinions. But I've never seen the data that supposedly proves Vilas should receive credit as world #1 per the ATP computer ranking system. Has Mr. Puppo ever published his data? Did he use the EXACT same criteria the ATP used in 1975 when calculating rankings...
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    WaPo article on Evert today - "Chris Evert played tennis with a patience that's in current demand."

    Chris Evert got very, very far in terms of excellence and durability on the pro tour. I'm not sure how much some 'luck' had to do with it. Afterall, who gets to define what luck is? Do the players get to choose their own luck? As far as Evert's athletic talent., I'd say she had more than a bit...
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    Stats for 1988 W final (Graf-Navratilova)

    I thought this was a high quality match. I believe Graf would have been a slight favorite, as #1 and half way to a Grand Slam. But Martina was reigning champ, having won the last 6 years, and had only lost 3 times on grass since 1983. Plus, Martina beat Steffi 7-5,6-3 in the 1987 Wimbledon...
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    Steffi Graf - defending forehand corner

    As an English major, I understand the meaning of the world "struggle." so I am struggling to understand what you mean by "[Graf] struggled with Seles, and also struggled with Davenport." Let's start with facts. Because, they are well - indisputable. Steffi Graf and Monica Seles played each...
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    Record for consecutive points won

    Here is another consecutive points streak. Involves Chris Evert. Clay. French Open. 16 consecutive points. On serve. L O S T!!!! Huh! You say?!?! Tis true. As shocking as it seems, Chris Evert lost every point on serve in the second set of the 1984 final when Martina Navratilova played a...
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    The three great two handers.

    Simple. Because Jimmy Connors isn't Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall (nearly 10 years Jimmy's senior), nor Rod Laver. Chris Evert isn't Lew, Rod, or Ken either! Individual players choose their own style. And, Connors, Borg, and Evert weren't exactly or specifically directed to use 2 handed backhands. For...
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    Record for consecutive points won

    Here is another consecutive points streak I discovered: 1976 Family Circle Cup, SF, Chris Evert def. Mary Struthers 6-0, 6-0, winning the final 18 points of the match. I still say there are other 12+ consecutive points streaks won by Evert on clay throughout her career.
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    The three great two handers.

    Why then? Because it WAS when Connors, Evert, and Borg were born. That's why those 3 great 2 handed backhand players developed and emerged. It was the players THEMSELVES that made this happen. Not anything other than coincidence, or when their parents decided to birth those superstars! :p
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    The three great two handers.

    Topspin backhands usually come in handy when moonballing. While not exactly the same, if you are comfortable with moonballing you are going to have to be comfortable with topspin. Chris Evert despised the moonball tactic. Yes, she would resort to it on occasion for a change of pace. But when...
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    Best double handers - WTA

    Not quite. If Nicolescu had the best backhand of all time, her match record would be a wee bit better. I'll stick with the player who HAS the best match winning percentage of all time - CHRIS EVERT - as possessing the best backhand of all-time on the WTA Tour.
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    Longest games

    This Evert-Goolagong match was one of their best ever matches. What I thought was extraordinary about it was that it was played in early April 1982, Chris was the #1 player in the world, and Evonne had only recently returned to the tour after giving birth to her second child. The Citizen Cup was...
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    The three great two handers.

    Think of it this way. Today, nearly all the top players - men and women - use two hands on backhand side. There are the exceptions. Federer (an exception and a class unto himself - but I digress), Wawrinka, Thiem, and....are there any others? If you just discovered tennis today, and saw that...
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    The three great two handers.

    I don't believe Jimmy Evert had any say in the matter. Borg's parents weren't involved in coaching Bjorn. There are unique, individual circumstances which led Chris, Bjorn, and Jimmy to use two hands. Nothing in the water, in their neighborhoods, politics of the day, or whether Mercury was...
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    The three great two handers.

    I don't know all that much about Connors development as a player. Evert often talked about when she started she was very young, and felt the racquet was too heavy for her to hit a one handed backhand, which is why she used two. I believe a top junior a few years older than her - Peaches...
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