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Roderick and Murray better than Goran on grass? Not a chance. First, how many W did Roddick win? How many did Scud win? Murray...OK, whatever. Goran was a great grass court player. Much better than Roderick, Murray and Phillipoussis. Head case....whatever.

Don't forget Federer

Rafter was. Pete was more than a SV player.

I understand. Yes, he was pretty automatic with his serve. But its part of his game and its not like he aced every serve.

Vines also played a wood racquet.

Gimelstob?

Nice post Clay. Yea, I don't think there is a true goat. There are issues for all of them. Good point on Sampras's wins on cost. You can't win against those kinds of players if you can't play on clay. Yea, never saw Pete cry Cruz another opponent beat his *****

I think the death of Gully basically stamped his future on clay. Annacone one was far too aggressive to ever see Pete win the FO. Had Gully not died, he would have been better coached for clay. Shame....

You and I are in agreement. It's a matter of what a person has witnessed over time and what kinds of big matches that player has won. Federer is no mental midget, he's right behind Nadal. I don't know where people get that. I tease the fed morons that Nadal makes him cry because he does, but...

I don't know, but you make it sound negative. Yes, Pete had a big serve. So you count that against him? Its still mental. Pete has chocked on his serve...he's not perfect. You sound argumentative with me...I agree with your points. I said there is no way to quantify it...I never did, so...

Gottfried won the FO? Doubles???

After three posts from him, I placed on my ignore list, so I hear you. We are in agreement on this poster. My guess is 12/13 years old....

I don't know much about that era/tournament, but can this truly be considered a Wimbledon title? Boobyone agreeing with you proves pmerk point about him. I looked up some information on it and it seems after this tournament Wimbledon opened up to all Pro and amateur. But how can this be...

Boobyone is extremely old and feeble minded. He doesn't understand facts...think of it as dementia.

I think when posters or commentators say "big points" it has to be indicative of Pete' s mental game. It wasn't that his physical game rose on big points, but his mental game certainly did. I agree you can't measure big points with statistics...its impossible. But there is no denying that...

I disagree with what you're saying about movement a bit. I just don't see him ever winning any major. I also think both K and G were much better movers than Isner. I just don't see it with some of the players of 96. Look at Corretja...he almost beat Pete. Isner has no where near the game of...

OK, its official. You are on my ignore list. Every single post is garbage. I can't imagine the other 6, 00+. Good evening.

Right...you don't know.

He clearly doesn't know the meaning of owned. He didn't watch that W tournament. Richard was simply unstoppable. Too bad he played Washington and not a top tier player.

OK..so the word "nothing" has been changed to advantage. That's fine. AO was not quick. It's obvious you never watched Pete play...ever.

Yes, look at the 96 Corretja match as well. The guy was just great. He really had a beautiful game. I miss Andre/Pete.:cry:

Sooooo, aren't you a rec/amateur providing a critique?

Oh...but today's player wouldn't be like the 96 player...not as a whole any way. His lack of return serve, movement and side/side game...I just don't see it.

Oh...no way. I just don't see that. Not in any era...:(

How bout his patience? When you say footwork, do you mean the surface of clay requiring different movement and sliding/timing, etc? He had some good years when Gully really wanted him to win FO.

It makes sense since that time in his career he did play more baseline/all court game than he did after 98 or so. I don't recall him having a "weak" BH when he won the USO and the next couple years. But it was a long time ago..lol. His serve changed 3 times. Significantly just prior to 1990...

He was being a tool. Johan's career was pretty much over by 1990. Did they even play each other? The misspelling has nothing to do with it...he knew who you meant. He was trying to make you look bad.