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  1. Sanglier

    Co-Classics

    Adding some new entrants to my frivolous parade. One pair from Bonny's "Snaky" series, another pair from WinSport. The latter are marked "Made in England", but I have reason to believe they began life in the US. Both designs embody creative solutions that are in search of a problem. In the case...
  2. Sanglier

    What model of Adidas racquet is this?

    I just picked up a mystery Adidas of my own from a collector in North Carolina, who got it from either Hans or a German seller a while back. Based on the aerofoil beam profile and butt cap, I would date it to 1988-1989, but it is furnished with individual grommets and no bumper! As there is no...
  3. Sanglier

    Picked up this Prince Boron...

    $500 was MSRP in 1983; mail order price was under $400. A year later, MSRP was reduced to $450, while mail order prices dropped below $300. For comparison, POG retailed for $295 in 1983 and $250 in 1984, and sold for $220 and $160 on average in the magazine back pages.
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    Picked up this Prince Boron...

    They did not provide instrument-generated numerical values, just those drawings with the dashed lines and some unit-less comparative index, representing the "feel" of the racquets, I suppose. Data analytics and evidence-based empiricism had not infected the racquetholic community yet, so Prince...
  5. Sanglier

    Best items you found at thrift stores (Goodwill)?

    Howard Head's patent covered head sizes between 85 and 130 SqIn, specifically those between 12" and 15" long, and between 9.5" and 11.5" wide. Other manufacturers got around the patent by making 84 SqIn heads (e.g., Spalding) and snowshoe-shaped frames (e.g., Head, BBC). Thurlow Weed submitted...
  6. Sanglier

    Fox racquets?????

    David must be busy with work. Maybe the scan below can help you get started? It's excerpted from a USRSA pdf. I strung up one of these a while back guided only by the technical drawing from the US patent pdf (long before I came to my senses and paid for a USRSA subscription). As the patent...
  7. Sanglier

    Data Project for Classic Racquets

    This is an ambitious project and I wish you success, but I suspect the amount of input you are likely to receive from others will be disappointingly limited in the end. If you haven't already done so, have a look at tenniswiki, an even more ambitious project that someone started more than 10...
  8. Sanglier

    Classics in movies and TV shows

    Just finished watching "The Boys" on Amazon Prime, in which Elizabeth Shue played a rather complicated Madelyn Stillwell. She is very tanned in all the episodes, and one of the characters called it a "tennis tan" at one point, or something to that effect; which reminded me that Shue is an avid...
  9. Sanglier

    Best old school players racquets you've purchased from **** and why

    You are a materials scientist, so you are probably familiar with Wood's metal, or Cerrobend, which was the alloy used in this production method. Yes, it does indeed contain Pb, in addition to Sn, Bi and Cd, and definitely isn't an environmentally friendly material. However, the alloy was...
  10. Sanglier

    Questions about a rare Volkl Zebra

    What a nice find! :love: The high serial number indicates that this is a later model (I don't believe they ever "re-issued" the Zebra after it was discontinued in 1979/1980). This stark fluorescent yellow and black color scheme screams of early Renntiger, their flagship skis for an entire decade...
  11. Sanglier

    Best items you found at thrift stores (Goodwill)?

    I came across this very early Taiwanese- or Korean-made graphite frame at a GW last week, and decided to bring it home just because it has the longest and strangest model name I've ever seen. It is very flexy (only 40 RA), and 8 pt head heavy, with extremely tiny individual grommets, making it...
  12. Sanglier

    The truth about racquet material innovation

    Pro Kennex is the house brand of Kunnan Industries. And yes, Kunnan made the first Babolats. You should visit us in the "Classic" sub forum and look through the archives; these topics have been covered ad nauseam over the years by successive groups of vintage racquet enthusiasts, most of whom...
  13. Sanglier

    Which frame would Lendl have used in his prime, if it hadn't been his Adidas?

    Given Lendl's unwavering faith in Warren Bosworth, and the connection the latter had with Fox and Snauwaert, he probably could have played with frames from either of those two suppliers if they had the wherewithal to sponsor him. Of the two, I think he'd have felt more comfortable switching to...
  14. Sanglier

    Collections

    They made their flagship "Lone Eagle", the mid-priced "Clipper", and low-end "Flyer" and "Eagle" through at least 1978-1979, and reportedly into the early 80s (though I have not seen any evidence of the latter), so the ones at your school may have been newer than you thought, especially if they...
  15. Sanglier

    DANLO ALUMINIUM TUBE GRAPHITE COATED 70'S MISSING LINK

    The earliest braided racquets, the Dunlop "Graphite" and "International", both had a clearcoat finish, as did the LiMao "Super Graphite" from Taiwan, made exactly like this Danlo. I think because the outermost layer of these racquets is a braided tube, which is continuous and seamless, in...
  16. Sanglier

    DANLO ALUMINIUM TUBE GRAPHITE COATED 70'S MISSING LINK

    Well, there are really only three of us who are remotely interested in this stuff, and this one isn't weird enough for the two of you, so . . . :) The seller used to live on the other side of the mountain from me. He told me he had over 1000 racquets at one time, but ignored me when I asked if...
  17. Sanglier

    DANLO ALUMINIUM TUBE GRAPHITE COATED 70'S MISSING LINK

    It is indeed. Same head size and shape, same flattening of the shaft below the neck (but a bit more subtle than on the Glaflex, and it stays flattened all the way to the grip), same flex (60 RA), just heavier (by nearly 1/2 Oz) and longer (by more than 1/2 cm), resulting in a much higher swing...
  18. Sanglier

    Adidas CD 3000 ?

    The second model of Blue Star Mid, which was license-produced as "Progress" in the Soviet Union, with which @BorgCash is obviously very familiar, came out of an updated mold with that characteristic tapered shaft (same as that of the White Star Mid, I think, but I'm not 100% certain, as I don't...
  19. Sanglier

    Adidas CD 3000 ?

    Nothing exciting, I'm afraid. I got it from a collector in Missouri a few years back. He was into old woodies only and couldn't tell me anything about it. There is no decal or serial-number on the butt cap like on production examples, but it definitely came out of the Cup Star Mid/ World Star...
  20. Sanglier

    Adidas CD 3000 ?

    It's not a knock-off; it is a Kneissl. More specifically, it is a repainted Cup Star Mid (later renamed Blue Star Mid, before they changed the mold). Prior to 1981, all Adidas frames were OEM products; some were exclusive models, others not so much. Here is mine next to a World Star Mid/ Red...
  21. Sanglier

    Ever Play With the PDP Fiberglass Racket?

    The answers to both of your questions are in post #15 and #20 further up this thread. Feel free to PM me if any of this is still unclear after you read those posts.
  22. Sanglier

    Ever Play With the PDP Fiberglass Racket?

    The original 1974 model had a grey throat piece with a black-on-orange decal (missing from the family portrait I posted 4 years ago, but shown with the other two variants below),which was later replaced by an orange-on-white one. In 1978, they replaced the grey throat piece and grommet strip...
  23. Sanglier

    New old stock

    Posting these for Zioglenn:
  24. Sanglier

    New old stock

    We are practically neighbors then. :) The Astroceramic series were also produced by ASE, at least early on, so it sort of makes sense that these were found together. Actually, I'm not too surprised that you found the Puma and Fila frames in Spain, but I am a little shocked that the Atrigon...
  25. Sanglier

    New old stock

    You should post pictures of your finds! These sound like cosmetic variants of the Puma "A Touch of Class" and Slazenger "Phantom Gold", produced by American Sports Equipment in Camarillo in the 1980s. Atrigon was their house brand. Are you in LA? Quite a few NOS frames made by American Sports...
  26. Sanglier

    The Ski Club

    I worked part time for a Sugar Mountain affiliate in the mid '80s, which later switched to Ski Beech, after there was some kind of falling out between the resort's co-owners. If I remember correctly, they also had some indirect ties with the Völkl distributor, something having to do with Sepp...
  27. Sanglier

    Best items you found at thrift stores (Goodwill)?

    This is one of the advantages hinted by Stephen Davis, the author of a statutory invention registration (not a patent) at the basis of this design (itself an 'improvement' on earlier patented designs that didn't go far enough, per Davis). Other advantages claimed include: 1) a "quieter" string...
  28. Sanglier

    when did the very first composite or graphite racket come out???

    Most of the groups working on synthetic racquets at the time tried to patent their design and manufacturing method well ahead of product launch, but Völkl didn't do that for some reason. They only got around to applying for a German patent in February 1972, the same year the Zebra was launched...
  29. Sanglier

    Best items you found at thrift stores (Goodwill)?

    You are a poet, Retro! Yours is a far more commendable approach to matrimonial harmony than the one my unfortunate spouse has had to adapt to, which can be summarized as: It could have been much worse! Back to the topic of this thread: the pickings around here have never been rich, and I...
  30. Sanglier

    Prince Original Graphite ( POG ) Mid and OS versions

    My interest is in the era that ended at around the time the 4-stripe was introduced, so I have limited data on the later POGs. My own 4-stripe weighs 11.5 Oz without strings, about 0.5 Oz lighter than the average Kunnan-made 1-stripe that immediately preceded it. An example of the later...
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