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Murray is the underachiever of his era.

the premise of this thread is slams won after 27 Slams won after turning 27 in the open era 5 slams after turning 27 Laver Agassi Federer 4 slams after turning 27 Rosewall Newcombe Lendl 3 slams after turning 27 Connors Sampras Nadal Djokovic It is a fact that no male player won more...

If 11 slams will suffice then Lendl is in the same group as Borg. 11 and 14 can be compared. Then Lendl at 8 and Borg at 11 can be compared since Lendl has many more weeks as number one than Borg.

his record in rg and uso finals is the big blemish in his career. 0-3 and 1-4 lousy for a supposed GOAT wannabe.

Nole needs 15 majors to eclipse nadal in the same way the Spaniard needs 18 to eclipse Roger.

Nole won Wimbledon but somebody else will win the USO. Every year there is a different winner since 2011 Nole Murray Nadal Cilic Nishikori, etc Nole's dismal record in finals at the USO will make this happen. 1-4 Soon to be 1-5 Almost as hilarious as his 0-4 in Cincy finals.

Nole won Wimbledon but somebody else will win the USO. Every year there is a different winner since 2011 Nole Murray Nadal Cilic Nishikori, etc Nole's dismal record in finals at the USO will make this happen. 1-4 Soon to be 1-5 Almost as hilarious as his 0-4 in Cincy finals.

It will take a long time. Nadal is done and Djokovic is too old to win 9 more slams.

leave roger alone

Yup. But the point is a player as talented as Nole should end up with more slams overall than the claycourter. Anything less than 15 slams and then we can say the Serb underachieved after being number one for so long.

Murray is the biggest loser here. Roger is 34 and has 4 children to raise. He owns the slam record. Anything is gravy. But Murray who is in his prime and losing to a 34 years old is bad omen for him.

but he has the slam record

TBH, the ones who have to be really depressed are the Murray fans...

ouch

Nadal needs 18 slams to be greater than Roger. Djokovic needs 15 slams to be greater than Nadal.

that's bad luck

Nole has 7 more slams than Murray. This is not even a discussion anymore.

He's not the player he was in 2006 anymore.

Who would have thought Roger would only win 2 more slams after breaking Pete's record at Wimbledon 2009? He was only 27 back then and he's just been able to win 2 more slams.....

Federer will always have 17 his record to gloat.

Rosewall.

It's at the slow court slams that pre biological passport Nadal made the difference. 10, 1 AO and 9 Rg vs 5 AO and 0 RG for Nole. Post biological passport Nadal is irrelevant in the tennis world. Only a contender at 250s whereas just a pretender at the Slams. I expect Nadal's 2016 to be even...

Imagine how the Murray fans feel!

It was also apparent that Roger would reach 20 slams after AO 2010. Nothing is for sure in tennis. Sampras predicted 10 Wimbledon for Roger back in 2010....

Anyway, Nole has always been a better fast court player than Nadal and will end up with more fast court slams overall. Nadal has 4 fast court slams, 2 Wimbledon and 2 USO Nole has 4 fast court slams atm, 3 Wimbledon and 1 USO. This will get better for him.

I already knew in 2007 that Djokovic was the better fast court player and would end up with more fast court slams than Nadal.

this thread was originally started by MIMIC at mtf. She forgot that after losing a slam final to an outsider, the likes of Federer and Nadal won the next slam but then started serious decline. Bad omen for Djokovic....

but federer will always have more slams than nadal.

I said SLAM FINAL.

he is 34. get real.