@Moon Shooter if your hypothesis is correct, that women's tennis at lower levels is more competitive, then we'd expect to see the flight standings be a lot closer for women's flights than men's flights right? There will be few if any undefeated or one-loss teams and few if any no win or...
If players in your area don't value playing recreational tennis in a team setting, and only care about being on the winning team, USTA League isn't for them. And if USTA League isn't someone's ball of wax, there is nothing wrong with that.
Any level based league will always have the haves and...
So you are saying that for UTR 1-4, there are 4x fewer men playing than women. Ok, but that isn't a terribly useful statistic as it is probably the case that there are 4x fewer men in the UTR 1-4 range than women, so, you'd expect there to be 4x fewer men playing league.
Now, you make this...
@Moon Shooter, where are you getting 4x as many women play as men? The data clearly shows it is more like 1.5x as many women play as men. I posted that earlier and you are just ignoring it or refuse to believe it.
And you keep saying lower rated players in their level are sitting on the...
I was going to wait for @Moon Shooter to put forth what he thinks the analysis would show before replying, but I did some analysis and it seems clear enough the hypothesis is wrong that I'll just post it in advance of him replying.
In my area, our 40+ Adult league just finished the regular...
From the code:
If you weren't ready and made no attempt to play a return, and gave no indication you were ready prior to the serve, you may say you weren't ready and they would be required to serve a second serve.
You cannot of course be in the ready position indicating you are ready, and...
I still believe you are making much ado about nothing, and/or player/captain behavior in your area is radically different than in mine.
Tell me if this analysis would satisfy your curiosity.
For a given gender/level, we can look at the average rating of all player's, e.g. for a 3.5 flight the...
Yes, more women play USTA League than men, but I'm not sure what ratio you think it is when you say it isn't even close? You'd listed a 4:1 ratio earlier, but the truth is it is only 1.5:1. More, sure, but not anywhere close to 4:1.
To your point of lower rated players within a level avoiding...
My point was not that pros will play regardless due to being paid, but instead that in the pros 40-50% of teams make the playoffs while in most USTA league flights, one, maybe two make it, on the order of 10-20%. And players still play in the face of that uphill battle to make the playoffs...
Teams/captains may somehow think they can compete, but in my area at most levels we'll have 2-4 flights at every level with 8-10 teams in each flight, and I can tell you at the start of the season the 2-4 teams that have an actual chance at finishing in the top-2 and advancing to local playoffs...
Results not as good in league play as at the invitational. A combination of some unexpected losses and close wins offset the results from last year's invitational. Still, I had two of the 3.5s above 3.50 at year-end so I would have bumped them up, but the USTA didn't see fit to do so. By the...
They like the conditions, and/or their ratings are suppressed by literally playing in an island, and ratings wise being an island too. Hard to have ratings that are accurate relative to other sections when there is very little cross-over of players.
With some teams playing their 3rd match, three are 3-0 and three more are 2-0, but with the remaining schedules I don't think we'll end up with four 4-0 teams, so a 3-1 team should make the semis.
After day 1, Mid-Atlantic, Southern, MOValley, Caribbean, Hawaii, SoCal, and PNW all 2-0, all five of the teams I called out as favorites in that group, PNW and Hawaii joining my five. Middle West and Middle States are 1-1 so still in the hunt.
I wouldn't be surprised if they've considered it. Really all it tells you is one singles player is rated higher than another. Much harder to derive anything from the doubles order.
Well, I did some fine tuning of the simulation to improve it for Tri-Level and things changed a bit.
Still no team is an overwhelming favorite, only one has a just over 60% chance of making the semis, but now five are over 50%: SoCal, Caribbean, Southern, Mid-Atlantic, and MOValley. Contenders...
Just posted on my blog!
Doing Tri-Level is new for my simulations, and it is kind of harder as there are three levels and various rules about eligibility, and some sections have the team assembled after a One Doubles Sectionals, and some teams play very little to advance, etc. So we'll see how...
Some areas already do points per position (PPP). More started doing it when 40+ went to 4 courts as a way to avoid dealing with 2-2 ties.
But PPP doesn't deal with team wins and losses, but instead just accruing points and whatever team in a flight has the most points is atop the standings...
Except last year at least, there are players that only played Tri-Level and got a 2023 year-end rating. So the data suggests Tri-Level counts too. So what answer can you really trust?
Perhaps UTR (or any other rating system that shows a confidence) should factor in how connected the player or their opponents are with the rest of the ecosystem and not display 100% until some "degrees of separation" threshold is met?
If you are self-rated, you have no current year-end rating to be appealing so the auto-appeal button is not applicable. You can of course appeal a self-rating but that isn't an auto-appeal which is what I assume the OP was asking about.
It isn't once a lifetime, but you are appealing your year-end rating based on what it was at year-end and thus while you may be able to click the appeal button on TennisLink as many times as you like, it will give the same response so it is effectively one time per published rating.
And also, to the point you were debating earlier:
22. THE LET DURING A SERVE The service is a let if: a. The ball served touches the net, strap or band, and is otherwise good; or, after touching the net, strap or band, touches the receiver or the receiver’s partner or anything they wear or...
You could simply read the rules, but instead you throw out idiotic misinformation.
https://www.usta.com/content/dam/usta/coach-organize/content-fragments/resource-library/assets/pdfs/friend-at-court.pdf
19. SERVICE FAULT
The service is a fault if
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c. The ball served touches a permanent...
So you are a 3.5 that has improved your kick and slice serves, have beaten 4.0s, but lost your volley game so feel you should be a 3.0? Yet you admit you could get back to 3.5 and perhaps are there now? That is what would go in your appeal? I don't think that is a terribly compelling argument...
That rule is in the context of serves, and I believe it is primarily about returning serves that have been called out, not whether a call should be made or not.
The rule is there to not have returners return a ball they have called out only to make the server have to go clear it or otherwise...
Nope. There used to be early start ratings where this could happen for early start leagues, but that went away several years ago.
And as someone else posted, the mid-season bump ups are only for S/A rated players that exceed the strike threshold three times and get promoted.
Something you did on the court justified you getting a 3.5C it would seem. What has happened since then that you feel you are no longer a 3.5? And what would stop you from addressing whatever happened and getting back to the 3.5 level?
I'm not saying this would happen with you, but if someone...