big 3

Djokovic lost to 9th seed Sebastien Grosjean in 4 sets (7-5 6-4 5-7 6-4) Murray lost to 18th seed David Nalbandian in 5 sets (6-7(6) 1-6 6-0 6-4 6-1)

Federer on clay overall - 56.97% Federer on clay without Nadal - 57.89% Federer on clay without Djokovic - 57.21% Federer on clay without Rafole - 58.17% Djokovic on clay overall - 58.8% Djokovic on clay without Nadal - 59.99% Djokovic on clay without Federer - 58.95% Djokovic on clay without...

Seems like I posted something similar 5.5 years ago when I was new-ish here. But opinions evolve, and posters come and go as well. My main question: Has all the GOAT talk increased or diminished your enjoyment of tennis? I don't have an easy answer to my own question, but will say that I have...

Federer's last years of his career, besides his injury, are so underrated. He played absolutely fantastic tennis at 37+ years old, especially in 2019. He wasn't as fortunate as Djokovic having to deal with 5 & 6 years younger ATG players at the same time. When comparing Federer's level to...

How would you construct the perfect tennis player from your dreams? My choices: First serve: Ivo Karlovic Second serve: Pete Sampras Underarm serve: Nick Kyrgios Return: Novak Djokovic Forehand: Roger Federer Backhand: Novak Djokovic Passing shot: Rafael Nadal Lob: Andy Murray Slice: Roger...

I'm not saying that Carlos Alcaraz is as good as the Big 3 together, let alone one of them, but to me there's no denying that his game resembles different qualities of the Big 3's games, for instance with Djokovic it's the sliding backhand and the drop shot + lob combo, with Federer it's the...

Just curious (not Kyrgios) - no right or wrong answers 1. In order, what would you say are your three - or so - favorite sports to follow? My own replies, arguably: Baseball, Tennis, Football (American), Basketball, Hockey...a little golf 2. What are, or were, your three favorite sports to...

Slightly inspired by @Phenomenal thread on Madrid 2016 Nadal vs Murray, I also had a feeling at the time that Nadal was playing so much better on clay that year than the year prior. Before the injury forced him to withdraw, in his 2 matches played he dished out 3 breadsticks and 1 bagel. He...

Weeks@#1 Slam Atp finals Masters How astounding!

Peak 6-year span with a win rate above 70% against both top5 and top10. >70% against top5 >70% against top10

I ranked all of the big 3 individual seasons based on the achievements alone, without taking their opponents into account. If you're all about the competition then I've also got a thread for that...

The big 3+1 are just a magnificent benchmark for anybody out there. Brilliant players with a very long career and a huge amount of data. I was recently looking at the tactic section of the Tennis Abstract homepage and I think there is a lot of interesting basic stuff to discover. I sorted first...

Open Era until 2023, ranking is solely based on career ATP points, and only calculate R128-F matches. (I may miss out someone close to the bottom of top 10, if you point out I will check and update) 1...

Open Era until 2023, ranking is solely based on career ATP points, and only calculate R128-F matches. (I may miss out someone close to the bottom of top 10, if you point out I will check and update) 1 Jimmy Connors 18,720 2 Novak Djokovic 17,900 3 Roger Federer 16,630 4 Pete Sampras...

Assuming all three players were at pork form (magically transfigured into pigs) who could we see winning on each of the respective surfaces? I think pork Djoker could still be the best on grass. Please weigh in.

Federer: SF: 7-1 Won: Roddick (W03), Kiefer* (AO06), Gasquet (W07), Monfils (RG08), Del Potro (RG09), Raonic (W14), Chung* (AO18) Lost: Nadal (RG05) F: 5-1 Won: Baghdatis* (AO06), Gonzalez* (AO06), Djokovic (USO07), Murray (USO08), Soderling (RG09) Lost: Del Potro (USO09) Nadal...

For a future safeguard against overhyping the latest mug, let's make a benchmark of what it is actually possible for 17 year olds, 25 year olds, 35 year olds to do in tennis. Think Alcaraz's level is the highest ever from a 19 year old on HC? Think Fed's peak on grass is the highest ever? Now...

Who have been the best coaches for the Big 3? Vote in the poll.

* ages ago (RG 18) to now Who would have guessed we’d end up at 2x22… 2018 - Nadal def Thiem, Djokovic def Anderson, Djokovic def Del Potro 2019 -Djokovic def Nadal, Nadal def Thiem, Djokovic def Federer, Nadal def Meddy B 2020 - Djokovic def Thiem, Nadal def Djokovic 2021 - Djokovic def...

Djokovic fans: Vamos / thank you <whoever just defeated Nadal> Since [arbitrary time], Djokovic has a 1000% win record and Fedal have [something less] Nadal fans: [Random person] says Nadal is their favourite player! [Highlights of some match Nadal won in the past 10 years, probably on clay]...

Nadal’s IRL grass career was a weird thing where he entered his prime aged 20 and left it aged 25. This was followed by 5 years of the kind of form you’d expect from a newcomer to the surface, but in his mid-late 20s, while he was still in his clay/HC prime. If his career had followed a more...

Yes, some fans gloat too much (Note; when your favorite player wins or your least favorite player loses, you haven't accomplished anything), but I hear so much incessant whining when a "rival" player achieves something. You know the pejorative terms: Weak Era, Mugs, Weak Draw, Career Inflation...

Everyone calling for Rublev and Ruud to be replaced by Rune because they’re going to go 0-3 in their groups, and in fact it’s Pusherdev, UEdal and FAAil who have been mugging up the ATP finals with their horrible tennis. What it tells us??? Not only that, brave Andrey was the only one who had...

What these 2 events showed is that while Djoker fans can enjoy hyping up his level against mugs, when he’s up against someone actually bringing a great level on HC, he will suffer. However, this is Bo3, not Bo5, and they also showed is, while he has walkabouts for a set or so, it’s super hard...

As soon as Nadal turned up to the US Open in this brown monstrosity, it was clear his tournament was doomed: After all, we can see that in recent years, since Moya became coach, Nadal’s results are entirely decided by the quality of his kit. GOATy kits == Slam wins . . . . . . Nice and...

Federer’s first slam win at Wimbledon 03 was the beginning of a new era. He was back the following year with a vengeance, having already won the 2003 YE finals and 2004 AO, and exerted a period of tour-level dominance that would last several years. A teenage PETE’s magnificent 1990 US Open...

Murray walks with his back at an incline, a slight stoop. Not good for long term :/ The best forehand off a “neutral” rally ball was Fritz’s. He was hitting rockets and has a really safe action for generating power, keeping the ball low, and hitting with margin. Berry’s has more loopy topspin...

Djokovic and Nadal have played each other 18 times in "best of 5 set" tennis matches, all at slams. The H2H right now is 11-7 to Nadal: 8-2 to Nadal on clay, 3-2 to Djokovic on hard court and 2-1 to Djokovic on grass. In this time, neither player has ever come back from 2 sets to 0 or 2 sets to...

For example (these are just my picks): 2011 Federer, 2008 Nadal, 2015 Djokovic, 1996 Sampras and 1978 Borg face off with each other 10x in a round robin at RG - a series of RS hypotheticals... 2004 Federer, 2010 Nadal, 2011 Djokovic, 1995 Sampras and 1980 Borg face off with each other 10x in...