Maybe some esteemed members of this discussion board have missed the rise and quality of young Jannik. Only eight players are ranked to have been stronger in ATP history. Obviously it now gets harder and harder, Sinner only got 16 points for his run at the AO 2025.
Rank Player Peak...
... and doing so at a younger age than Federer and Djokovic!
Bald buff Nappa screaming on behalf of some members of the TTW board ...
P.S: Inspired by the caption of 'Super-Sinner' by Jeff Sackmann, in his excellent 'Yes, Jannik Sinner is really that good!' with this great opening:
P.P.S...
Wanted to create a thread for all those predictions by the mighty algorithm. Hope to update it from time to time...
1) The surface specific Elo, in this case the gElo before Wimbledon, down to legend Sir Andy Murray
Rank
Player
Age
Elo
GrassRaw
gElo
Peak Age
Peak Elo
1...
Please head over to this excellent article, which offers deep insight into this beautiful sport and comes up with a great way to frame Sinner's special serve stats. Do not spoil yourself, I will at first just post the opening nugget:
If you can read the full article here, I will just post the general thrust and one graphic:
The late Elo rise by Jannik pushes him a bit too high for my taste while Nole feels obviously too low. Alcaraz seems kinda right. We will see how things shake out, but it is a good reference to...
Shocking to me, but Carlos Alcaraz has now moved into 4th place, yes ahead of Nadal...
Rank
Name
Age
Overall Elo
Hard Raw
Clay Raw
Grass Raw
Hard Elo
Clay Elo
Grass Elo
Peak Elo Match
Peak Elo Age
Peak Elo
1
Novak Djokovic
34.5
2185.6
2068.6
2016.3
1942.4
2127.1
2101.0
2064.0
2016...
ELO doesn't win titles but helps to put players in perspective. I found this ranking by Tennis Abstract highly useful over the years to understand the players path better. Here there is a good discussion about it is about:
Regular snapshots help. After the Number 21 for Rafa the ELO15 are...
Tennis Abstract's Elo-based prediction model for the 2021 US Open Men's singles competition. Kind of surprised at how high Medvedev is compared to Djokovic. They have relatively even odds. Also surprised a bit that Rublev rates higher than Tsitsipas and that Sinner is rated #7 overall.
Seed...
A nice article from Tennis Abstract that helps putting in perspective the perceived difficulty of a path to a slam semi or slam win. Interesting especially since it factors in the actual path and the players met, not the supposed path as laid out by the draw...