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  1. nolefam_2024

    Djokovic, other top player and year end ranking points difference

    As many people agree, the year end number 1 shows who is the dominant player at each season. Djokovic of course holds the record for 8 year end number 1s. Since 2007 itself Djokovic started the climb near top of tennis and as many have rightfully pointed out, his 2007 season is able to low tier...
  2. nolefam_2024

    Shocking tournament GOAT pts reveal

    UTS manages yearly records for all players and its useful to do year over year comparison on overall achievement of players. Now if you agree with their GOAT points scenario is totally up to you and I will not get into it but it seems very fair to modern tennis post 2000. Where masters have half...
  3. nolefam_2024

    Highest hard court slam matches won in a row

    1. Federer - 40 2005 USO R1 to 2008 AO semis 2. Djokovic - 27 2011 AO to 2012 USO final 3. Lendl - 26 1985 USO to 1988 USO final 3. Djokovic - 26 2015 AO to 2016 USO final 5. McEnroe - 25 1979 USO to 1982 USO semis 6. Agassi - 20 1994 USO to 1995 USO final 7. Connors - 19 1982 USO to 1984...
  4. Dropshot777

    Making a reliable number based ranking of every top 10 player in open era

    I am planning on creating an equation to calculate a ranking list consisting of every YE top 10 player in the open era. So far my draft equation awards 5 points for every week spent at number 1 as well as 3 points for every week in their longest consecutive streak at number one, 5 points for...
  5. Im(moral) Winner

    The GOAT's last week retirement celebration and discussion has been muted

    At least here on TTW https://www.atptour.com/en/news/carlos-bernardes-retirement-feature-2024
  6. nolefam_2024

    Best Hard court years since 2004 compared

    Years Federer 2004 Federer 2005 Federer 2006 Federer 2007 Djokovic 2011 Nadal 2013 Djokovic 2012 Djokovic 2013 Djokovic 2015 Djokovic 2016 Murray 2016 Federer 2017 Djokovic 2023 Sinner 2024 Slams 2 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 2 Slam Finals 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 2 ATP finals Yes No Yes Yes...
  7. Rovesciarete

    The secret sauce of legends - when the going gets very long, the best win more

    A strange thing happens when the great players* of all time° when the rally goes from long to very long. Usually the the win percentage jumps, often it remains steady and rarely it declines. Big serve&volley players like Sampras, Edberg and McEnroe win roughly a hundred basis points more. Borg...
  8. Zardoz7/12

    Djokovic's statistical superiority is down to one thing

    He outlasted Federer and Nadal, he overcame injury issues better, he didn't have an injury issues like Federer's knee degeneration or Nadal's issues with his foot, continual knee issues until a certain point where I believe stem cell treatment was used. He vultured slams but that's not his...
  9. M

    Greatest of All Time meanings

    I would like to start a thread of what we might even mean by "greatest of all time." 1) Do we mean played the best/strongest tennis ever? If so did that level have to last longer then one set? At least a whole match? At least a month? At least a year, 3 years, 10 years etc? Might the...
  10. Rovesciarete

    Sinner’s hometown of Sexten has a goat aka chamois on top of the big three peaks on it’s coat of arms!

    Just a funny bit of trivia, had a bit of a laugh when I saw that. You just can’t make up stuff like that! The three peaks are the famous tre Cime di Lavaredo or Drei Zinnen, Three Merlons…
  11. N01E

    Big 3 Seasons Ranked

    I ranked all of the big 3 individual seasons based on the achievements alone, without taking their opponents into account. If you're all about the competition then I've also got a thread for that...
  12. Tenacity

    Stones have been collected

    24 slams - stands alone 40 masters - stands alone 7 atp tour finals - stands alone 400 weeks at #1 8 YE#1 GG. Game over!
  13. RaulRamirez

    Requesting More Objectivity Here

    A Quick Rant – Not My First, and Probably not My Last Especially with large portions of the world at war or in great turmoil, and personal challenges that we all face, there are a zillion things much more important than tennis, and GOAT races. And I admit that I enter a lot of these threads...
  14. RedClayFan

    How historians will REALLY look back on the current era of tennis...

  15. RedClayFan

    Fedal bros, it's time we have a talk...

    Now that the dust has settled and Novak Djokovic has cemented his place as the unquestionable, undisputed GOAT of tennis we must revisit history critically to understand how we got it all so wrong. You see, fellow fedal bros, I too was blind. I was blinded by Big Nike. Blinded by the paid media...
  16. jl809

    What is the best performance by a player aged 17, 18, 19... up to 37, on each surface? Making a comprehensive list

    For a future safeguard against overhyping the latest mug, let's make a benchmark of what it is actually possible for 17 year olds, 25 year olds, 35 year olds to do in tennis. Think Alcaraz's level is the highest ever from a 19 year old on HC? Think Fed's peak on grass is the highest ever? Now...
  17. N01E

    Djokovic now holds the 5 biggest records in tennis

    Grand Slam Titles: Djokovic: 22 (#1) Nadal: 22 (#1) Federer: 20 (#3) Weeks at #1: Djokovic: 373+ (#1) Federer: 310 (#2) Nadal: 209 (#6) YE#1: Djokovic: 7 (#1) Federer: 5 (#3) Nadal: 5 (#3) ATP Final Titles: Djokovic: 6 (#1) Federer: 6 (#1) Nadal: 0 (#26) Masters 1000 Titles...
  18. UnforcedTerror

    BOMBSHELL: In normal circumstances, Djokovic needed only 600 points from the AUS Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Montreal, Cincy and US Open to be No. 1!

    Djokovic would have 6,320 points in normal circumstances while Alcaraz at #1 with 6,920 pts. So only 600 points were needed for Djokovic from the 10,000 points of the 6 premiere hardcourt tournaments which he was denied to participate in. o_O That's only one final in one of the four masters or...
  19. jl809

    The peak versions of each ATG across each slam all play each other. Who has the combined best results?

    For example (these are just my picks): 2011 Federer, 2008 Nadal, 2015 Djokovic, 1996 Sampras and 1978 Borg face off with each other 10x in a round robin at RG - a series of RS hypotheticals... 2004 Federer, 2010 Nadal, 2011 Djokovic, 1995 Sampras and 1980 Borg face off with each other 10x in...
  20. initialize

    Federer officially retiring (serious)

    Just posted on Instagram He will be playing the Laver Cup next week as his final event. Farewell GOAT :cry: Tennis will never be the same without the world’s most talented player ever… this sucks guys
  21. jl809

    Remember this epic?

    The last ray of sunshine in tennis… The moment we thought They Might Be Back… what happened to our big 5 :cry:
  22. Tennis Espresso Journal

    Open Era Top#100 Rankings: The Vonder Index - August 2022・Week 32 update

    Hello Everyone! Salut tout le monde! This is the updated version of the Vonder Index, a Top#100 Ranking List from open Era achievements. Relevant remarks on Vonder Index is : - a dynamic ranking system, which means even after a players retires, his index points still move (up or down) - the...
  23. jl809

    John Isner’s performance vs Murray this year was the highest level of grass court tennis we’ve seen at Wimbledon in the past 2 years

    Man was bombing down serves, volleying like prime PETE and hammering that forehand. 82 winners, 36 aces against a GOAT returner who had shown great form against Kyrgios and Berrettini. Kyrgios himself can only dream of that kind of brutality. Big John can still beat absolutely anyone on his day...
  24. UnforcedTerror

    All threats in Nadal's path to Wimbledon final are officially out (a la the AO)

    In the AO, Bull fans were complaining about his draw. He was supposed to play the following players in different rounds but didn't play any R2: Kokk R4: Hurkacz QF: Zverev SF: Djokovic Now in Wimbledon, the same thing happens again, all threats in Bull's path to the final went home even before...
  25. tennis4jags

    How many more GrandSlams after 22

    I know this is a hypothetical question and you geeks might have already discussed many times. However, after reading post-match interviews, I'm asking question myself. Look like Nadal is motivated to go for more trophies than coming back with any excuses. In my guess, he may grab 3 more grand...
  26. UnforcedTerror

    Djokovic's most impressive achievement on clay?

    Clay is Djokovic's least favorite surface, yet he's still a beast on the surface. In your opinion, what is his greatest clay achievement?
  27. A

    NOVAKS FOREHAND OVER BACKHAND

    I WAS ANALYZING NOVAKS AND RAFAS GAMEPLAY A LITTLE BIT AND 1 COMMON THING I NOTICED WAS THAT THEY BOTH CONVERT BACKHAND BALLS AND HIT A FOREHAND BUT BOTH OF THEM HAVE A GREAT BACKHAND AND CAN EASILY DOMINATE THE OPPONENTS SO WHY THEY GO FOR CONVERTING OF SHOTS ?
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