Who’s more impressive, Sinner or Alcaraz?
Sinner using young Nole as the benchmark, or
Alcaraz using young Rafa as the benchmark?
Closer below, or further above, is considered more impressive. Please set bias aside and do the research if you’re a true tennis fan.
Which of these records will be broken first?
Nole 428 weeks @No.1 (next Fedr 310, gap 38%)
Rafa 387 weeks @No.2 (next Fedr 218, gap 78%)
Fedr 222 weeks @No.3 (next Connors 206, gap 8%)
Mury 181 weeks @No.4 (next Becker 144, gap 26%)
The Big4 in a nutshell?
More detail about Big4...
Nole is ahead of Fedal by more than 200 points NOW (2025 AO)—a monumental lead.
The gap is far wider than Pete had over Agassi in their era.
Absolutely insane dominance!
https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/goatList
We can easily agree that 2004-23 is the most fitting 'Big3 Era' concept, dominated by one, two, or all three of them consistently throughout.
However, at the core of this Big3 Era, Murray reached significant heights—taking the 2016 YE#1 and 2015 YE#2 rankings. His well defined prime (2008-2016)...
Nole over Fed, vs Fed over Lendl.:unsure:
Most Nolefams are still in disbelief, even after someone pointed out 'The Emperor's New Clothes' on Fed.
When will people realize that tennis careers can be inflated, and understand how and why?
Career
vs Top5
T5 Weight
vs Top10
T10 Weight
vs T11+...
2004-2023: Their first and last YE#1s & multiple slams
2007-2021: Nole's first & Fed's last top 5 ranking
2011-2018: Nole's first & Fed's last #1 ranking
2008-2018: Nole’s first & Fed’s last slam
Or something else?
I think 2004-2023 is the most fitting 'BIG3 ERA' concept. During this period...
We have 'Nole Slam' = NCYGS
It's time for a new term, the
'Djokovic Slam' = 'Career Slam' + 'Career Masters' + Tour Finals + OG.
'Career Masters' = all 9-slot Masters.
The 'Djokovic Slam' is a complete ATP big title set.
Edit:
I agree 'Diamond Slam' is a more fitting term.
The 'Venn Diagram'...
Is there another one on the horizon?
WI07
F
Federer (1) d. Nadal (2)
7-6(7) 4-6 7-6(3) 2-6 6-2
WI08
F
Nadal (2) d. Federer (1)
6-4 6-4 6-7(5) 6-7(8) 9-7
AO09
F
Nadal (1) d. Federer (2)
7-5 3-6 7-6(3) 3-6 6-2
UO10
SF
Djokovic (3) d. Federer (2)
5-7 6-1 5-7 6-2 7-5
UO11...
Appreciate the absolutely incredible achievements, then cast your vote. Thank you.
(By the way, if you notice any other slam records of similar magnitude, please suggest and I may add.)
Borg: 5+5 channel slams before 25th birthday
Closest next?
(Rafa 5+2)?
If we consider any two-venue...
Top5 matches
Top5 per tourney
Top10 matches
Top10 per tourney
Ave oppo rank
Ave oppo Elo
Lost to oppo rank
Lost to oppo Elo
1
Lendl 17 (8-9)
Borg 1.11
Lendl 28 (18-10)
Lendl 1.75
Lendl 25
Lendl 2036
Borg 4
Borg 2295
2
Connors 17 (8-9)
Lendl 1.06
Connors 26 (13-13)
Borg 1.67
Borg 25
Borg...
The two editions of HC GOATs are very clear:
Nole (14 slams 50 big titles)
Fed (11 slams 39 big titles)
3rd (Pete 7 slams, Agassi 21 big titles)
Since the rise of Fed in 2004, there have been only six players who reached the AO final multiple times:
Nole 10-0
Fed 6-1
Rafa 2-4
Murray 0-5
Meddy...
I'm referring to matches involving the absolute top players: as No1 vs No2, as No2 vs No1, between Top2. Chronologically listed for the elite 8 who have spent the most time at the top 2.
as No1 vs No2
as No2 vs No1
between Top2
Weeks@Top2
Jimmy Connors
1-7
2-4
3-11
387
Bjorn Borg...
Fed 2004-09 (Fed1)
14 Slams
32 Big Titles
442-51(90%) Overall
44-23(66%) vs Top5(10%)
91-32(75%) vs Top10(21%)
10-12(45%) vs Elo>2300(2.3%)
42-25(63%) vs Elo>2200(9.5%)
Nole 2011-16 (Nole1)
11 Slams
40 Big Titles
427-50(90%) Overall
66-25(73%) vs Top5(15%)
140-34(80%) vs Top10(33%)
57-24(70%)...
Open Era until 2023, ranking is solely based on career ATP points, and only calculate R128-F matches. (I may miss out someone close to the bottom of top 10, if you point out I will check and update)
1...
Open Era until 2023, ranking is solely based on career ATP points, and only calculate R128-F matches. (I may miss out someone close to the bottom of top 10, if you point out I will check and update)
1
Jimmy Connors
18,720
2
Novak Djokovic
17,900
3
Roger Federer
16,630
4
Pete Sampras...
Open Era until 2023, ranking is solely based on career ATP points, and only calculate R128-F matches.
1
Roger Federer
23,395
2
Novak Djokovic
19,685
3
Pete Sampras
15,370
4...
björn borg
boris becker
goat boat big3 big 3
jimmy connors
john mcenroe
novakdjokovicnoledjoker
pete sampras pistol
rafael nadal
roger federer
wimbledon wib wi
Open Era until 2023 of couse
ATP ranking is all about points, so the ranking is solely based on career ATP points (adjusted to current point system): each win earn points, a slam final win worth 800 points, SF win worth 480, etc.
(Only calculate R128-F matches, a R128 loss worth 10 points, I...
Some fans keep bring up those concepts so I dig a little bit, what do you think?
Career matches against toughest opponents with elo>=2400
Nole: 65 (36-29, 55.38%)
Rafa: 56 (26-30, 46.43%)
Fed: 42 (17-25, 40.48%)
H2H against other big4 members during his own young peak years:
Nole(11-16)...