#1 Barty, #2 Halep, #5 Svitolina, #6 Andreescu, #7 Bertens, #8 Bencic all out of the USO. 6 of the top 10 not going.

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Fun Fact: Carl Lewis won 4 gold medals in 1984 summer Olympics which were boycotted by Soviet Union, East Germany and etc. preventing some top athletes to appear(and on side note, considering the doping going on then, that's some really tough competition to beat)

None of this diminished the greatness of Carl Lewis achievement.
People need to look at context much more. But then people are gonna people and draw ******** simplistic conclusions that befits their narrative
 
Tbh, I thought Halep would play after her victory yesterday. Usually something positive like that imo would sway someone like her who has been on the fence. Maybe she was more serious about this than she let on. Nevertheless, a huge loss for an already destroyed field on both the women's and men's side.
 
There are a total of 10 top 5 players from ATP & WTA.

3 top 5 WTA players out.
2 top 5 ATP players out.

3+2 = 5

5 is half of 10.

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Fun Fact: Carl Lewis won 4 gold medals in 1984 summer Olympics which were boycotted by Soviet Union, East Germany and etc. preventing some top athletes to appear(and on side note, considering the doping going on then, that's some really tough competition to beat)

None of this diminished the greatness of Carl Lewis achievement.
Carl Lewis set world records in 3/4 events that he won gold. What makes you think he wasn't going to win anyway? Lol
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
This is arguably THE most up for grabs major ever.
Andreescu is massively out of match practice, she's been injured for how long? Has her injury even been fully rehabbed? Also, she is Toronto based - that's driving distance (albeit a long journey) to NYC, right? Most players can only consider flying so anyone with the option to drive you'd think would feel more comfortable. I caught some of the Top Seed Open last week, but generally I'm very out of the loop with regard to who is in what shape injury wise.

Is she the only Canadian not playing the tournament? Is Bouchard in? I only ask because I wonder if Canada is keeping players from coming. The Canadian Border is closed to Americans so I just wondering if they are keeping their citizens from coming here as well out of caution.

I also note a few Chinese ladies are out of the tournament, which could be very much political as well.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
America is on Canada's red zone list but Canada cannot prevent players from flying out of Canada to NYC.

All arriving players to the USO have been granted an exemption to the NYC quarantine requirements by the Health Department of the state of NY.

Canada CAN impose a quarantine on players returning to Canada from the USO.

Big Brother is watching you!
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To limit the spread of the coronavirus in Canada, anyone entering the country must quarantine for 14 days regardless of whether they have symptoms.​
Saturday, police announced they fined two Americans for breaking the quarantine rules after being spotted multiple times in an Ontario town, according to a news release obtained by CNN news partner CTV.​
Ontario Provincial Police said the 66-year-old man and 65-year-old woman entered Canada on June 24, both from Minnesota. They were directed to go their Canadian destination and stay there for 14 days, according to CTV.
"Both individuals failed to comply with the ... Quarantine Act and were observed making stops in the Town of Fort Frances," reads the release.​
On June 30, the Canadian government extended its emergency order requiring anyone who enters the county -- whether by air, land or sea -- to quarantine for 14 days. This is in place until at least August 31.​
 
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fed1

Professional
For all people jumping on the Serena train, you need to realize that long gone is the intimidation factor and long gone are the days where she can blow 90% of the tour off the court. Bernarda Pera was dictating to her, Shelby Rogers dictated from the middle of the second set on. Think about this, what would Jenn Brady have done to Serena? 3 and 3 maybe if Serena serves well.
 
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She has lost to all 3 of Osaka, Kenin and Pliskova at Majors in the past so if I were her I wouldn't be THAT excited. Certainly she has a good chance but she just lost to Shelby Rogers...so clearly she is rusty.
Far better to lose to Rogers in KY than NY and better again in "Cincinnati" this week than NY.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
The corrupt USO officials have "consulted" with Serena and are rigging the field for her.

Carlos Ramos is the most highly regarded chair umpire in the world but Serena has banned him from working her matches after she and her sleazy coach/husband were caught cheating at the 2018 USO Finals.

What type of sport allows a cheating player to ban the best chair umpire in the world?!

We all look forward to the day when this corrupt entitled overweight slow 40 year old cheat finally retires.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
The corrupt USO officials have "consulted" with Serena and are rigging the field for her.

Carlos Ramos is the most highly regarded chair umpire in the world but Serena has banned him from working her matches after she and her sleazy coach/husband were caught cheating at the 2018 USO Finals.

What type of sport allows a cheating player to ban the best chair umpire in the world?!

We all look forward to the day when this corrupt entitled overweight slow 40 year old cheat finally retires.
(n) U$TA!
 
The corrupt USO officials have "consulted" with Serena and are rigging the field for her.

Carlos Ramos is the most highly regarded chair umpire in the world but Serena has banned him from working her matches after she and her sleazy coach/husband were caught cheating at the 2018 USO Finals.

What type of sport allows a cheating player to ban the best chair umpire in the world?!

We all look forward to the day when this corrupt entitled overweight slow 40 year old cheat finally retires.
You should make a petition to ban the corrupt USTA and US Open.

She is still richer than you though.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
You should make a petition to ban the corrupt USTA and US Open.

She is still richer than you though.
That person is such a troll :-D I mean to actually think the USTA is rigging this in Serena’s favour lmfao. Are they paying Halep, Andreescu and Barty not to show up? Like it’s beyond laughable. He’s got this sad obsession with Serena it’s embarrassing to witness. Every thread of mine he brings her up.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
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Crazy Finn

Hall of Fame
Frankly, I find the wide open nature of the WTA tour more interesting than the ATP for the last several years. I mean it's just the Big 3 every major tournament, rinse and repeat. Good tennis, but fairly predictable.

The long layoff and top players not playing is going to make it pretty wide open. The top players haven't had months of tournaments to establish their form (either good or bad), so I think we'll see a lot of upsets. I wouldn't be surprised if over half the top seeds (the ones playing) lose before the 4th Round.
Will be interesting if there is an outbreak at the USO and none of the players there can back up for Roland Garros.
I'm guessing that's one reason there are so many players backing out. If they're already in Europe and maybe they'd rather play the French Open, anyway.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Ah yes. The consistent WTA tour. Where they defend their titles all the time. We had Serena and...? Azarenka back in 2013. Give me a break.

Ah yes, the ATP, where three grandaddies have ruled over the two worst generations in tennis history, with endless losers just showing up only to collect a check and then perform the expected roll over.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Will be interesting if there is an outbreak at the USO and none of the players there can back up for Roland Garros.
Interesting is an interesting choice of word ;) But yes, i'm sure that's what the majority of these players withdrawing are worried about. And as said on this thread, some players who have a better chance at RG than they do at the USO have probably weighed that up as well. It makes sense for the Americans to play this tournament but for some Europeans and Australians, not so much.
 
Will be interesting if there is an outbreak at the USO and none of the players there can back up for Roland Garros.
Just imagine this. A full lockdown in USO bubble. A full lockdown in second wave Mallorca. That will clear my path to my first ever Coupe des Mousquetaires.

I don't mind playing doubles with Rafa again though. I've got the serves and he's got the banana shots.
 

netlets

Professional
What’s weird is that most of the men aren’t making the same decisions. Are they being offered a different guarentee? Yes Barty isn’t going and neither is Kyrgios but Millman is and he’s the Aussie man who’s had the best success at the tournament. You mention the European women not coming but the European men are? Perhaps it’s down to who thinks they’ll be better at RG e.g. Bertens, Halep and Barty compared to say Kerber and Pliskova. I mean Thiem bombed out in the 1R last year at the USO but has made the last two RG finals yet he’s playing. Khachanov has made a RG QF but never gone past the USO 3R but he’s coming. I just don’t comprehend.

Thiem was sick with a virus last year at the Open - should never have played that match. He was closer at AO than winning RG and will be a favorite to win the title after Djokovic.
 
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Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Last time I seen Serena she was moving like an outdated giant industry machine, heavy and slow incapable to reach the ball properly. Her years of experience helped her with those nobodies but won't save her from any serious player.

I think Madison Keys or Sloane Stephens would trash her, not mention Coco Gauff.

Sloane is struggling big-time.

I understand you hate Serena, but if you want to troll the boards with WTA picks you have to actually watch some matches.
 

WilPro

Semi-Pro
Sloane is struggling big-time.

I understand you hate Serena, but if you want to troll the boards with WTA picks you have to actually watch some matches.

At least I seen Serena's last matches, well not the whole match because women's tennis is hard to watch but anyway, I could see how sluggish she is.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
At least I seen Serena's last matches, well not the whole match because women's tennis is hard to watch but anyway, I could see how sluggish she is.
It would be fantastic if since you have such a hard time watching women’s tennis that you would then have such a hard time posting on every single WTA thread that I or anyone do criticising it. If you don’t like women’s tennis fine, but stop going around being negative about it everywhere possible. It just makes you look like a tired, old troll. Move on. Honestly.
 

WilPro

Semi-Pro
It would be fantastic if since you have such a hard time watching women’s tennis that you would then have such a hard time posting on every single WTA thread that I or anyone do criticising it. If you don’t like women’s tennis fine, but stop going around being negative about it everywhere possible. It just makes you look like a tired, old troll. Move on. Honestly.

:-D :-D :-D :-D

I guess you are the authority that allows people to post or not. Next time I post on a WTA thread I will ask for signed approval from you.

:-D:-D:-D:-D

Happy?
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
:-D :-D :-D :-D

I guess you are the authority that allows people to post or not. Next time I post on a WTA thread I will ask for signed approval from you.

:-D:-D:-D:-D

Happy?
100% :D

I don’t go out of my way to go on every thread of yours and be negative yet you always do it on mine so I’d love if you stopped. Or even if you just stopped complaining about women’s tennis on a women’s tennis thread. Thanks.
 

WilPro

Semi-Pro
100% :D

I don’t go out of my way to go on every thread of yours and be negative yet you always do it on mine so I’d love if you stopped. Or even if you just stopped complaining about women’s tennis on a women’s tennis thread. Thanks.

Mmmm... never knew threads are yours or mine. I thought you just start saying something and from there on it can go everywhere. And honestly, when I post something I don't look who started the thread or something.

I'd say you have good content and you should be proud of it, and enjoy people posting on your threads. You should not take things so seriously. Don't be so limey when people don't think like you. Take it easy. It's just that we all are unique and special and different from each other. It's called diversity.

Please darling, be more inclusive. This grumpy attitude won't help you. Cheer up!

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Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Big lol if serena does not win the whole thing
Nah, I think her slam days have come and gone. Her chase for that final slam have really diminished some of her records with 4 extra slam final losses. Now nobody is afraid to play her and her level isn’t there anymore. She’s still got Kenin in the draw who beat her at RG last year. Pliskova who beat her at the USO in 2016. Etc,
 

D-Lite

Hall of Fame
Sloane is struggling big-time.

I understand you hate Serena, but if you want to troll the boards with WTA picks you have to actually watch some matches.
Yeah, Sloane was one of my favourites for a couple of years, and to an extent she still is - I have a small glimmer of hope that she will produce something before she retires. I don't understand how she won Miami and made RG final after her USO win, and then suddenly that was enough and she became someone so nonchalant on the court? What is the purpose of going through the motions on tour when you're a multi-millionaire already? You're better retiring and investing your money into something you love/are interested in that could provide you with a good return, as good as all these R1/R2 losses. She literally went full Bouchard but at least she won a few big things. How did she return from injury, having only played a few tournaments, and win the USO, but she has full fitness nowadays and can't string anything together? I get mentality is a big thing and we don't know the ins and outs but she's not exactly had long spells away from the tour to deal with anything in particular. I defended her a while ago for being overweight/unconditioned. I don't really like people picking on weight so much as it seems so harsh, and surely her coach/trainer would be on top of this? I think some of these players could benefit from doing some hardcore fitness sessions/bootcamps that aren't just planned by their own coach who could go light on them.

Sorry, I went off on one then, but those are my thoughts. Definitely can't see Sloane beating Serena nowadays unless she has a 2013 moment or whenever it was where a match with Serena really lights a fire within her.

I would love to see Serena win #24 and be done with it, but I'm not sure if there comes a point where 7 matches against much younger and very hungry opponents is doable. I hope so, but even with all those withdrawals there is danger lurking even in R3 or R4. As people have said, imagine Jen Brady in R3 - you'd hope she would struggle with the occasion/opponent given her current form.
 

fed1

Professional
Yeah, Sloane was one of my favourites for a couple of years, and to an extent she still is - I have a small glimmer of hope that she will produce something before she retires. I don't understand how she won Miami and made RG final after her USO win, and then suddenly that was enough and she became someone so nonchalant on the court? What is the purpose of going through the motions on tour when you're a multi-millionaire already? You're better retiring and investing your money into something you love/are interested in that could provide you with a good return, as good as all these R1/R2 losses. She literally went full Bouchard but at least she won a few big things. How did she return from injury, having only played a few tournaments, and win the USO, but she has full fitness nowadays and can't string anything together? I get mentality is a big thing and we don't know the ins and outs but she's not exactly had long spells away from the tour to deal with anything in particular. I defended her a while ago for being overweight/unconditioned. I don't really like people picking on weight so much as it seems so harsh, and surely her coach/trainer would be on top of this? I think some of these players could benefit from doing some hardcore fitness sessions/bootcamps that aren't just planned by their own coach who could go light on them.

Sorry, I went off on one then, but those are my thoughts. Definitely can't see Sloane beating Serena nowadays unless she has a 2013 moment or whenever it was where a match with Serena really lights a fire within her.

I would love to see Serena win #24 and be done with it, but I'm not sure if there comes a point where 7 matches against much younger and very hungry opponents is doable. I hope so, but even with all those withdrawals there is danger lurking even in R3 or R4. As people have said, imagine Jen Brady in R3 - you'd hope she would struggle with the occasion/opponent given her current form.

I've said this in other threads about Sloane, she loves being a pseudo celebrity and she's kind of a quarter of the way in to being a hardcore tennis player. She has a coach who is essentially just a friend who's pretty much just happy to be out there and he clearly doesn't push her. Other coaches that she's has had who may have been a bit tougher/demanding were either shown the door or left on their own, see Paul Annacone.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, Sloane was one of my favourites for a couple of years, and to an extent she still is - I have a small glimmer of hope that she will produce something before she retires. I don't understand how she won Miami and made RG final after her USO win, and then suddenly that was enough and she became someone so nonchalant on the court? What is the purpose of going through the motions on tour when you're a multi-millionaire already? You're better retiring and investing your money into something you love/are interested in that could provide you with a good return, as good as all these R1/R2 losses. She literally went full Bouchard but at least she won a few big things. How did she return from injury, having only played a few tournaments, and win the USO, but she has full fitness nowadays and can't string anything together? I get mentality is a big thing and we don't know the ins and outs but she's not exactly had long spells away from the tour to deal with anything in particular. I defended her a while ago for being overweight/unconditioned. I don't really like people picking on weight so much as it seems so harsh, and surely her coach/trainer would be on top of this? I think some of these players could benefit from doing some hardcore fitness sessions/bootcamps that aren't just planned by their own coach who could go light on them.

Sorry, I went off on one then, but those are my thoughts. Definitely can't see Sloane beating Serena nowadays unless she has a 2013 moment or whenever it was where a match with Serena really lights a fire within her.

I would love to see Serena win #24 and be done with it, but I'm not sure if there comes a point where 7 matches against much younger and very hungry opponents is doable. I hope so, but even with all those withdrawals there is danger lurking even in R3 or R4. As people have said, imagine Jen Brady in R3 - you'd hope she would struggle with the occasion/opponent given her current form.

I think Sloane is always someone who will have peaks and lows. I'm fine with that, and it makes more sense to me than these players who are almost machine-like day-in and day-out.

What worries me about her right now is that her current situation is different from the normal Sloane. I think she has really struggled for motivation during the shutdown period and might have lost a lot of her explosiveness and court speed.

I think she can definitely get back to where she was, and she has got oodles of time, but it's just a bit more of a hurdle than her normal ebbs and flows because of the additional external circumstances.

At her best, she is one of the best to watch. The easy power on the forehand, incredible defence, and ability to take it to anyone on her day is what makes her special for me.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Yeah, Sloane was one of my favourites for a couple of years, and to an extent she still is - I have a small glimmer of hope that she will produce something before she retires. I don't understand how she won Miami and made RG final after her USO win, and then suddenly that was enough and she became someone so nonchalant on the court? What is the purpose of going through the motions on tour when you're a multi-millionaire already? You're better retiring and investing your money into something you love/are interested in that could provide you with a good return, as good as all these R1/R2 losses. She literally went full Bouchard but at least she won a few big things. How did she return from injury, having only played a few tournaments, and win the USO, but she has full fitness nowadays and can't string anything together? I get mentality is a big thing and we don't know the ins and outs but she's not exactly had long spells away from the tour to deal with anything in particular. I defended her a while ago for being overweight/unconditioned. I don't really like people picking on weight so much as it seems so harsh, and surely her coach/trainer would be on top of this? I think some of these players could benefit from doing some hardcore fitness sessions/bootcamps that aren't just planned by their own coach who could go light on them.

Sorry, I went off on one then, but those are my thoughts. Definitely can't see Sloane beating Serena nowadays unless she has a 2013 moment or whenever it was where a match with Serena really lights a fire within her.

I would love to see Serena win #24 and be done with it, but I'm not sure if there comes a point where 7 matches against much younger and very hungry opponents is doable. I hope so, but even with all those withdrawals there is danger lurking even in R3 or R4. As people have said, imagine Jen Brady in R3 - you'd hope she would struggle with the occasion/opponent given her current form.
She's still only 27, she's got time ahead of her and she did beat Serena when she was at some of her best in 2013 at the Aus Open. Won't happen this year while she's losing to the likes of Fernandez but never say never.
 

EkVraNaamEnVan

New User
Also, 0 Chinese players in the singles, seems Xu Yi-Fan is playing the doubles - she must be US based? I wonder if the singles players from China will play RG? Not that I think they'd win but Zheng and Q. Wang have been decent, Y.F. Wang has her good spells too.
Zhang Shuai has not withdrawn
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Venus better slay :D

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^Her US Open kit

I was having a look at that WW line the other day and there is a catsuit in the range. I'm not sure whether it is part of the on-court gear from that line or more for training but I kind of hope Venus wears it for one of her matches.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I was having a look at that WW line the other day and there is a catsuit in the range. I'm not sure whether it is part of the on-court gear from that line or more for training but I kind of hope Venus wears it for one of her matches.

I love how during a tournament half the time she wears a different outfit each match, hope she does that and plays as well as she played Serena/Azarenka :D
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
I love how during a tournament half the time she wears a different outfit each match, hope she does that and plays as well as she played Serena/Azarenka :D

If Venus plays like she did against Azarenka she can make the final.

The atmosphere in AA stadium if Venus gets a chance to try and win a major final at 40 would be crazy.
 
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