[1] NADAL vs. [3] FEDERER - Semifinal Miami 2011

Who will be a 2011 Finalist?

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Pwned said:
Tiger Woods? The prime age for golfers is in their 30's....
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True, age wise Tiger shouldnt be past his prime now but he clearly is. My point wasnt neccessarily age, but Federer is in the same phase of his career as Tiger and Schumacher are in theirs, even if in Tiger's case it isnt as age related.
 
Ledigs said:
Fed didn't really get a good practice match in though
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He just played a couple days ago, and against Rafa, im pretty sure he'd rather be rested. That said, I hope Rafa wins of course, and can find a way to beat Novak as well. Crazy that he's never won here.
 
Probably one of the last times these 2 will play each other. Relish the moment... and with that, I say Connors in 5
 
MichaelNadal said:
Absolutely it does, there are definitely *********s on here that contribute nothing to the forum. But as I said, they are outnumbered 4 to 1. Not once have I been in a Federer thread that *********s ruined bc he wasn't playing well, it's always disappointed Federer fans. You guys need to take a look at how the flood gates opened in the 2nd set of the berdych match tonight.
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And that's because there are more Federer fans/"fans" on here. The ratio of **** to the whole fanbase is about the same though. It doesn't give an excuse for "either side".
 
powerangle said:
And that's because there are more Federer fans/"fans" on here. The ratio of **** to the whole fanbase is about the same though. It doesn't give an excuse for "either side".
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Exactly right. While there may be less all out Rafa fans than Fed fans, the *********s make up for their smaller numbers with their intensity, no question.
 
powerangle said:
And that's because there are more Federer fans/"fans" on here. The ratio of **** to the whole fanbase is about the same though. It doesn't give an excuse for "either side".
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I know and agree, that's exactly what I was trying to say.

cc0509 said:
Exactly right. While there may be less all out Rafa fans than Fed fans, the *********s make up for their smaller numbers with their intensity, no question.
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I strongly disagree with the last part. There is no ********* on here worse than Breakpoint, Ralph or Queenseles. Period.
 
MichaelNadal said:
I know and agree, that's exactly what I was trying to say.



I strongly disagree with the last part. There is no ********* on here worse than Breakpoint, Ralph or Queenseles. Period.
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We can agree to disagree then. I could name names but I am not going to.
Both sides of the extreme are bad!
 
NadalAgassi said:
True, age wise Tiger shouldnt be past his prime now but he clearly is. My point wasnt neccessarily age, but Federer is in the same phase of his career as Tiger and Schumacher are in theirs, even if in Tiger's case it isnt as age related.
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Federer and Schumacher are in what is now the inevitable and irreversable biologically-age related phyiscal declining phase of his career. Schumacher its both mental/physical. It is possible Tiger's in what could possibly be a long and very gradual return to #1 form.
 
MichaelNadal said:
I know and agree, that's exactly what I was trying to say.



I strongly disagree with the last part. There is no ********* on here worse than Breakpoint, Ralph or Queenseles. Period.
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Have you read SoBad's posts (which crack me up but thats beside the point)? Although I guess he is more of a Federer hater then anything. Regardless, there are a fair few Federer haters on here who are JUST as bad.

I dont know why you guys keep fighting over whose fanbase is more "****"-like.

BUT I must say, if I was forced to make some generalizations about each fanbase (which would be completely wrong for the most part and only apply to a select few people), I would say

Federer "****s" (notice I did not say fan) have a superiority complex.
Nadal "****s" have a victim complex.

There, I said it, now let the trolling continue. Let's get 500 posts before the match starts :twisted:.

As for the match, sorry Roger, I want you to win, but I just dont see it. Can't tell if it's worse to have the 5 billionth loss to Rafa or lose a FOURTH time in a row to Djoker....

Probably Djoker, I like Rafa wayyy more.

And as niff pointed, why in the world are people voting that Roger is going to win, let alone win in 2?!!!!!! When is the last time Roger straight setted Rafa on hardcourts?

EDIT: Just realised I'm past 1000 posts now!
 
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I hope Nadal wins this one, for the sake of reasserting himself as the top dog in tennis and getting a chance to win the title, BUT it's going to be an uphill battle to beat Federer. Brain says Fed in 3, Heart says Nadal in 3... Either way, hope this delivers.
 
Blinkism said:
I hope Nadal wins this one, for the sake of reasserting himself as the top dog in tennis and getting a chance to win the title, BUT it's going to be an uphill battle to beat Federer. Brain says Fed in 3, Heart says Nadal in 3... Either way, hope this delivers.
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LOL I'm the same except replace Nadal with Federer and "top dog" with "still a great player who can win big titles".

Still I'm busting out my popcorn for this match, so it better be good!
 
It doesn't matter who wins, none can stop the Djoker :twisted:

I hope we get a decent match at least. 2011 has sucked balls so far IMO. I don't know if I've seen 5 worthwhile matches so far(there have been quality sets but way too many dips in form from top guys, I even think Novak played better at times in 2008 than in 2010) and certainly there have been no legendary ones so far. But hey it's only April, we've got a long way to go.
 
namelessone said:
It doesn't matter who wins, none can stop the Djoker :twisted:

I hope we get a decent match at least. 2011 has sucked balls so far IMO. I don't know if I've seen 5 worthwhile matches so far(there have been quality sets but way too many dips in form from top guys, I even think Novak played better at times in 2008 than in 2010) and certainly there have been no legendary ones so far. But hey it's only April, we've got a long way to go.
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Clay usually doesn't make for great tournament-winning matches as well, since Rafa usually wins them quite easily.
 
joeri888 said:
Clay usually doesn't make for great tournament-winning matches as well, since Rafa usually wins them quite easily.
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That leaves six more months, including Queens,Wimbledon,Canada,the Real Slam, USO, some smaller events, TMC.

Surely we will see something really memorable in six freaking months.
 
joeri888 said:
Clay usually doesn't make for great tournament-winning matches as well, since Rafa usually wins them quite easily.
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I'll never forget Madrid SF 09. Though I agree with you when it comes to last year, no REAL memorable matches to speak of. The Verdasco Nadal final was memorable for another reason.
 
SikSerb said:
I'll never forget Madrid SF 09. Though I agree with you when it comes to last year, no REAL memorable matches to speak of. The Verdasco Nadal final was memorable for another reason.
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Sure, there's always some good matches. I think 2009 was a memorable year in general because of Federer's roland garros run. (not just because of the history, the fact he had made the final 3 times before, Rafa losing being the BIGGEST SHOCK EVER, but also because there were great, tight, matches: Gonzo-Sod, Sod-Nadal, Fed-Delpo, Fed-Haas etc), and Madrid was cool too.. Federer d. Nadal on clay, Nadal winning one of the most epic 3setters ever.
So yeah, who knows, maybe we'll see something else. I expect a lot of Nadal wins with ease though.

Hope someone at least takes sets of him this year, cause the 2008 and 2010 FO's were quite dull in that regard.

@namelessone: I'm sure we'll see some good stuff :) Maybe even this weekend!
 
namelessone said:
It doesn't matter who wins, none can stop the Djoker :twisted:

I hope we get a decent match at least. 2011 has sucked balls so far IMO. I don't know if I've seen 5 worthwhile matches so far(there have been quality sets but way too many dips in form from top guys, I even think Novak played better at times in 2008 than in 2010) and certainly there have been no legendary ones so far. But hey it's only April, we've got a long way to go.
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Only match I've liked all year and can remember is the Fed-Simon 2nd round at AO. Combined with it being a night match, I really thought it was a good match (not many dips, yeah Fed started spraying the ball later on BUT Simon was playing so well)
 
Who knows between these two... Fed is starting to look he's coming into form, and he's had a decent bit of rest which should help him out... Fed in 3
 
For me its six of one, and half a dozen of the other.

I really don't know who will win this match. I can't say for sure Roger or Rafa. I think the start is the most important, both players are good front runners, and we normally get competitive matches between them. So I am hoping for a great match, sure I will be supporting Roger. But I have so much respect for Rafa, and how much this rivalry has meant to the growth of this sport.

And, we are back to where it all began for them!

Its 1-1 in Miami, and this will be the decider. Who knows how many times these two are going to play each other, so we should enjoy it while it lasts.

The big question is, can either of them beat the Djoker, who has forgotten what it feels like to lose, and imo is more confident and playing better tennis than both Federer and Nadal.
 
Hitman said:
For me its six of one, and half a dozen of the other.

I really don't know who will win this match. I can't say for sure Roger or Rafa. I think the start is the most important, both players are good front runners, and we normally get competitive matches between them. So I am hoping for a great match, sure I will be supporting Roger. But I have so much respect for Rafa, and how much this rivalry has meant to the growth of this sport.

And, we are back to where it all began for them!

Its 1-1 in Miami, and this will be the decider. Who knows how many times these two are going to play each other, so we should enjoy it while it lasts.

The big question is, can either of them beat the Djoker, who has forgotten what it feels like to lose, and imo is more confident and playing better tennis than both Federer and Nadal.
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A lot depends on tonight I think. IF (a BIG if) Roger was to beat Rafa without having no energy left (so maybe 7-6 6-4 or something), I think he might do it. He knew he was close in IW, and beating his nemesis will only improve his confidence. For Rafa on the other hand, I feel that beating Roger doesn't do much to his confidence. He feels he should beat Roger regularly, esp. at age 29. So I'd give Roger a better chance if he won than Rafa.
 
namelessone said:
I hope we get a decent match at least. 2011 has sucked balls so far IMO. I don't know if I've seen 5 worthwhile matches so far(there have been quality sets but way too many dips in form from top guys, I even think Novak played better at times in 2008 than in 2010) and certainly there have been no legendary ones so far. But hey it's only April, we've got a long way to go.
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Ive only seen 1 good match the entire season, between 2 kids no less. Raonic-Harrison IW.
 
joeri888 said:
A lot depends on tonight I think. IF (a BIG if) Roger was to beat Rafa without having no energy left (so maybe 7-6 6-4 or something), I think he might do it. He knew he was close in IW, and beating his nemesis will only improve his confidence. For Rafa on the other hand, I feel that beating Roger doesn't do much to his confidence. He feels he should beat Roger regularly, esp. at age 29. So I'd give Roger a better chance if he won than Rafa.
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You could be right, but how much has Novak now gotten into his head? It must be getting to him that he lost to back to back slam semis to him, plus having lost three in a row this year also. Will he play with all that weighing on his mind?

I guess, it is too early to even think about that match yet, since we have some semis to get through. And I don't think either Roger or Rafa will have an easy ride through to the final.
 
Hitman said:
Its 1-1 in Miami, and this will be the decider. Who knows how many times these two are going to play each other, so we should enjoy it while it lasts.
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Nadal has never won in Miami, Fed has 2 titles here.

If Fed wins tomorrow, Miami becomes the Real Slam. Book it.
 
Lsmkenpo said:
Ive only seen 1 good match the entire season, between 2 kids no less. Raonic-Harrison IW.
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Ferrer-Murray was decent, Federer-Simon was above average IMO(especially from the way the scoreline evolved), Raonic-Ferrer wasn't half bad either, Djoker-Fed at AO was pretty good.

The problem is that we've seen greatness only in spurts, no consistently good matches. I've some jaw dropping stuff in all the matches listed above(and others) but not one match has left me feeling "damn this was great".

Or maybe we are becoming jaded.
 
Nalby-Hewitt was the best match I've seen in ages! Other than that I enjoyed Malisse/Dolgo's run last week.
 
namelessone said:
Or maybe we are becoming jaded.
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Just reading you all I'm thinking this. :? :)

It sounds like you didn't follow much of the golden swing. The Ferrer-Almagro final in Acapulco was pretty special imo, especially since Ferru was going for back-to-back championships.

And you didn't have any fun with virtually the whole top 10 in doubles at IW and Dolgolisse spectacularly pulling off the whole thing even though they'd never played together before?

I'd say you're a little jaded, yes.
 
Rogi flies through round tennis tournament from inspiration of EAGLEGOLDDOHATROPHY gaining trust from other species of the animal bird to better destroy them but birds are create the different connurbations for the different players basings upon their SEXICLASSNESS. Forexample caseinpoint:

Rogisexiclass golden eagle=
roger-federer-doha-2011-01_0.jpg


AndyRoddicksexiclass golden eagle=
pigeon.jpg


Is very easy for to confuses the hot topics cakes and not understand method of classification for bird species PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS.

By the way, googling Federer Doha trophy landed ne with this on the first page. EVERYONE, please read it. It seems as if federerbestclass has a job ;).

http://www.bumeral.net/news/doha-tournament-2011-federer-becomes-the-trophy-by-beating-russian/
 
Cannot wait for this match !! Personally, there are a lot of unsolved questions about Federer, Nadal, professional tennis's direction in general, that this match will give us, the viewers, an inkling of knowledge about.

Things to watch out for (just my opinion):

1. Nadal's first serve percentage - will it be dreadful like it was against Nole (29% in the second set!) in the final @ IW last week? If so, serious trouble.
2. How many times Federer approaches the net. Will he approach the net during a baseline rally to Nadal's backhand, and approach to Nadal's forehand when attempting to do S&V? Roddick played this tactic very successfully at WTF in 2010.
3. Federer's backhand at the WTF in 2010 against Nadal was brilliant - the main tactical feature of that match was just how often Federer ripped his backhand against Nadal, cross-court especially, will he here as well?

No doubt about it, Federer is a better hard-court player than Nadal, if he is on his game tonight, keeps his concentration up (not like being 5-2 up in a set and losing it 7-5 aka Djokovic match @ AO) and cuts out any errors from his forehand, Nadal is going to have to be at his very, very best to compete.
 
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Gaudio2004 said:
Cannot wait for this match !! Personally, there are a lot of unsolved questions about Federer, Nadal, professional tennis's direction in general, that this match will give us, the viewers, an inkling of knowledge about.

Things to watch out for (just my opinion):

1. Nadal's first serve percentage - will it be dreadful like it was against Nole (29% in the second set!) in the final @ IW last week? If so, serious trouble.
2. How many times Federer approaches the net. Will he approach the net during a baseline rally to Nadal's backhand, and approach to Nadal's forehand when attempting to do S&V? Roddick played this tactic very successfully at WTF in 2010.
3. Federer's backhand at the WTF in 2010 against Nadal was brilliant - the main tactical feature of that match was just how often Federer ripped his backhand against Nadal, cross-court especially, will he here as well?

No doubt about it, Federer is a better hard-court player than Nadal, if he is on his game tonight, keeps his concentration up (not like being 5-2 up in a set and losing it 7-5 aka Djokovic match @ AO) and cuts out any errors from his forehand, Nadal is going to have to be at his very, very best to compete.
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fed is a better fast court player than nadal. but if you have been watching the highlights, i'd remove the fast, and replace with slow medium
 
Gaudio2004 said:
Cannot wait for this match !! Personally, there are a lot of unsolved questions about Federer, Nadal, professional tennis's direction in general, that this match will give us, the viewers, an inkling of knowledge about.

Things to watch out for (just my opinion):

1. Nadal's first serve percentage - will it be dreadful like it was against Nole (29% in the second set!) in the final @ IW last week? If so, serious trouble.
2. How many times Federer approaches the net. Will he approach the net during a baseline rally to Nadal's backhand, and approach to Nadal's forehand when attempting to do S&V? Roddick played this tactic very successfully at WTF in 2010.
3. Federer's backhand at the WTF in 2010 against Nadal was brilliant - the main tactical feature of that match was just how often Federer ripped his backhand against Nadal, cross-court especially, will he here as well?

No doubt about it, Federer is a better hard-court player than Nadal, if he is on his game tonight, keeps his concentration up (not like being 5-2 up in a set and losing it 7-5 aka Djokovic match @ AO) and cuts out any errors from his forehand, Nadal is going to have to be at his very, very best to compete.
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The surface helped though, low bouncing will allow Roger to rip his backhand more. Just don't see the same happening here. But hey, what do I know?! Hope I am very wrong.
 
rafa will beat federer. serving issues sorted. the surface is fairly medium speed. over the match, rafa will grind fed's backhand down to pulp.

i saw some of the highlights, the surface is very much similar to clay, with good topspin and high bounce
 
Gaudio2004 said:
Cannot wait for this match !! Personally, there are a lot of unsolved questions about Federer, Nadal, professional tennis's direction in general, that this match will give us, the viewers, an inkling of knowledge about.

Things to watch out for (just my opinion):

1. Nadal's first serve percentage - will it be dreadful like it was against Nole (29% in the second set!) in the final @ IW last week? If so, serious trouble.
2. How many times Federer approaches the net. Will he approach the net during a baseline rally to Nadal's backhand, and approach to Nadal's forehand when attempting to do S&V? Roddick played this tactic very successfully at WTF in 2010.
3. Federer's backhand at the WTF in 2010 against Nadal was brilliant - the main tactical feature of that match was just how often Federer ripped his backhand against Nadal, cross-court especially, will he here as well?

No doubt about it, Federer is a better hard-court player than Nadal, if he is on his game tonight, keeps his concentration up (not like being 5-2 up in a set and losing it 7-5 aka Djokovic match @ AO) and cuts out any errors from his forehand, Nadal is going to have to be at his very, very best to compete.
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Nadal fans will know that Rafa's serve can often be below par. It has always been like this. When he really wants to he can serve beautifully. However the whole match depends upon how much he really wants/needs this tournament just before the clay court season starts remains to be seen
 
rafan said:
Nadal fans will know that Rafa's serve can often be below par. It has always been like this. When he really wants to he can serve beautifully. However the whole match depends upon how much he really wants/needs this tournament just before the clay court season starts remains to be seen
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The match depends on Federer as well you know. All things being equal, Federer edges Nadal on a hardcourt imo, despite their h2h, or bad matchup etc.

I think Rafa and Roger will both be eager to win.
 
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