**** #1 Redondo Talks Thread ****

I had a spazz attack, broke one of my Redondo's, was still mad so I sold the second. Dumb! I played with a couple of my many other racquets and sucked for the rest of the season. Time for new sticks.
 

warclok

New User
Great thread!!!

TY for all the input. I think when your a 4.0+ player you cant go wrong with either one. I demo'd a MID and now am waiting for my MP demo. But I went ahead and bought a MP on **** for 90 shipped with a few hrs of play and new strings. Im confident that either racket will provide the performance im looking for. Reminds me of when I was young and finding my first POG mid....and the sound the Redondo emits is amazing. Im not one to show off rackets, im very modest but this stick is for me.

I tested the fed, djocavic, bab PS ltd and PK mid. I played my best game with mid, now after a few sets I got tired and lazy so hence the MP would be better for me IMO...cant go wrong with either one.

And for those that dislike the rubber material, I actually prefer it. When you miss hit the tennis ball hairs are stuck to the racket to show you what went wrong...I like this feature!!!

Im coming from a bab PS and getting rdy to sell em. Way to light IMO and now that I have tendonitis, the PK is less painfull. But I def nd to rest up in the winter.!!!

Ruben
 

PKfan1

Semi-Pro
I think I am back with my Redondo mids. This thing just crushes balls and does exactly what I want it to. I feel like my redondo mid has way more power and more control than my ig prestige mp's and the feel is unmatched.

I think the only reason I put them down was the fact that my two are so far apart in specs and the rave reviews of the IG prestiges poisoned my mind.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
I was hitting with syn gut initially with the R98 then went with a poly as low tension. The feed back magic was gone but still played very well. I'm now doing a poly/syn gut set up and the crisp feed back is...back plus the added control of the poly.
 
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After a couple of years of fudging around with other racquets, I plan to come back to my favorite the Redondo Mid+. I wish I had not exchanged my Mid+ as part of a trade for a stringing machine. I have to now adjust to the Redondo Mid.

However, I also remember some earlier posts on this thread stating that the Black Ace was better than Redondo. Has TW stopped selling Black Ace? It is no longer listed on their page or with any other seller.
 
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grhcan99

Semi-Pro
Paint Chip

Just bought 2 new mid+ from TW. Strung one of the two and noticed a paint chip at the top of the racquet. Both sides of the clamp had leather pads. I'm worried what happens on successive stringing. Any suggestions on how to prevent this?
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
After a couple of years of fudging around with other racquets, I plan to come back to my favorite the Redondo Mid+. I wish I had not exchanged my Mid+ as part of a trade for a stringing machine. I have to now adjust to the Redondo Mid.

However, I also remember some earlier posts on this thread stating that the Black Ace was better than Redondo. Has TW stopped selling Black Ace? It is no longer listed on their page or with any other seller.


They have a Black Ace 98 now.
 

gocard

Semi-Pro
Still love my 5-year old Redondos but the rubbery paint is feeling sticky instead of velvety like when it was newer. It's getting to the point where tennis ball fuzz sticks at the throat where I hold the ball before I serve, and cleaning the racquet doesn't make the sticky feeling go away. Has anyone found a remedy to this (aside from getting a new racquet :) ). I love the sheen of the burgundy paintjob in the sunlight but the rubbery paint has some downsides.
 

anirut

Legend
Gocard, try turpentine in a small amount on small a area and see if it works.

I used air-brush paint thinner, which is somewhat less strong than the "industrial" version. I might have used too much that the paint sort of softened. (Now everything's back to normal.) You might try this too, but use very small amount and apply very, very lightly, allowing the thinner to evaporate and the paint to regain its hardness in between and then give it another shot or until the coating's gone.
 

OTMPut

Hall of Fame
Sigh. I sold my 98 a while ago. I don't know really know why i sold it. Probably one of those cleanup operations triggered by guilt.

I have been hitting with Ki5 PSE recently. The easy power and stability of that monster is addictive.

Thinking of getting a 98 again. I miss that soft feel. I strung mine with TB @ low tension.
 

MrAWD

Semi-Pro
WOW!! It is great to see this thread still going strong after so long time! Although, I am down to only one Redondo Mid (still unstrung - call me nostalgic) and playing with other frames, this is still great frame to play with! All the best!

Fedja
 

djNEiGht

Legend
L2; are you looking to offload?
;)

In a way...yes.

I thought that x3 racquets would be the perfect number. x2 with my go to string and the last for messing around/testing. I feel that I only need x2 since I don't break strings that fast...especially with the dense pattern of the PK98. I'm also a string junkie and find myself restringing when the play-ability changes or when I need something to blame for my loss at the courts that day...

Grip sizes are L4 & L5 but I got an email that the pallets are available for $15 from them.
 

thejuice

Hall of Fame
Crap!!! I'm thinking about jumping back into the Redondo pool. I might just get one Mid for casual hitting but I miss having one. It's been YEARS since I hit with a Redondo but it was so smooth yet powerful and I want something like that again. Maybe not for matches but definitely for hitting sessions with my doubles partner.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
I have a Redondo 98 in a 4 1/2. I got it used and it came with a synthetic grip. I put on a thick TW Leather grip and an OG. Fit perfect for me and matched my most often used racquet (BB London) with a Head leather grip pulled fairly taught on a 4 5/8 grip.

I had a great time hitting with the Redondo and picked up x2 more fr TW both in a 4 5/8s grip. One was used and one was brand new. I haven't hit with the new one but hit with the used one. The used one felt a bit sluggish to swing. The balance of this racquet seemed to be 2 pts less than the 4 1/2 one.

I prefer to play bare leather and I picked up 1/2 size up sleeve. I took the leather grip off and ventured to take the but cap off as well. Looking down the shaft of the racquet there seemed to be a bulge about 2 inches into the shaft. Is there lead or something filling that. I got even more curious and took off the grip of the 4 5/8s and noticed the same bump. Figured that both racquets where now bare (no grips and OG as well as no string in either) I guessed that the balance would be the same. The 4 1/2 racquet still appears to be 2 pts more HL than the 4 5/8.

I'm a bit bummed that the balance is that far off. After I put the heat shrink on, I will see how much different the balance is and have considered putting some lead inside the handle of the 4 5/8s racquet. I also will check the balance of the new unused Redondo 98 and see how it compares to the 4 1/2.
 

thejuice

Hall of Fame
I have a Redondo 98 in a 4 1/2. I got it used and it came with a synthetic grip. I put on a thick TW Leather grip and an OG. Fit perfect for me and matched my most often used racquet (BB London) with a Head leather grip pulled fairly taught on a 4 5/8 grip.

I had a great time hitting with the Redondo and picked up x2 more fr TW both in a 4 5/8s grip. One was used and one was brand new. I haven't hit with the new one but hit with the used one. The used one felt a bit sluggish to swing. The balance of this racquet seemed to be 2 pts less than the 4 1/2 one.

I prefer to play bare leather and I picked up 1/2 size up sleeve. I took the leather grip off and ventured to take the but cap off as well. Looking down the shaft of the racquet there seemed to be a bulge about 2 inches into the shaft. Is there lead or something filling that. I got even more curious and took off the grip of the 4 5/8s and noticed the same bump. Figured that both racquets where now bare (no grips and OG as well as no string in either) I guessed that the balance would be the same. The 4 1/2 racquet still appears to be 2 pts more HL than the 4 5/8.

I'm a bit bummed that the balance is that far off. After I put the heat shrink on, I will see how much different the balance is and have considered putting some lead inside the handle of the 4 5/8s racquet. I also will check the balance of the new unused Redondo 98 and see how it compares to the 4 1/2.

PK has good QC so I'm wondering if you got a bad stick or whoever owned the used ones maybe didn't take care of their sticks. I've owned as many as four Redondo frames (all bought new from TW and at different times) and they were all spot on and within 2 grams of each other in regards to their weight. ~2 grams is good QC to me.
 

Boredsurfer

Semi-Pro
I have a Redondo 98 in a 4 1/2. I got it used and it came with a synthetic grip. I put on a thick TW Leather grip and an OG. Fit perfect for me and matched my most often used racquet (BB London) with a Head leather grip pulled fairly taught on a 4 5/8 grip.

I had a great time hitting with the Redondo and picked up x2 more fr TW both in a 4 5/8s grip. One was used and one was brand new. I haven't hit with the new one but hit with the used one. The used one felt a bit sluggish to swing. The balance of this racquet seemed to be 2 pts less than the 4 1/2 one.

I prefer to play bare leather and I picked up 1/2 size up sleeve. I took the leather grip off and ventured to take the but cap off as well. Looking down the shaft of the racquet there seemed to be a bulge about 2 inches into the shaft. Is there lead or something filling that. I got even more curious and took off the grip of the 4 5/8s and noticed the same bump. Figured that both racquets where now bare (no grips and OG as well as no string in either) I guessed that the balance would be the same. The 4 1/2 racquet still appears to be 2 pts more HL than the 4 5/8.

I'm a bit bummed that the balance is that far off. After I put the heat shrink on, I will see how much different the balance is and have considered putting some lead inside the handle of the 4 5/8s racquet. I also will check the balance of the new unused Redondo 98 and see how it compares to the 4 1/2.

DJNeight - I live in Altadena. I wield a PK Redondo "ROD LAVER" Edition. Let's hit.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
It's a really old-school frame.

If you're the kind of player that likes this sort of thing, then you probably already know that. It's probably not terribly useful for the modern game as well in stock form.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
PK has good QC so I'm wondering if you got a bad stick or whoever owned the used ones maybe didn't take care of their sticks. I've owned as many as four Redondo frames (all bought new from TW and at different times) and they were all spot on and within 2 grams of each other in regards to their weight. ~2 grams is good QC to me.

The one with the more HL balance looks to be in okay shape. The prev user put a new bumper/grommet set on it. You could see that the frame took a couple of hits and that the bumper was worn down to the frame before the grommets where replace and still seems fine.

I took a single pack of Gamma 1/2 inch lead tape and cut it in half. I then rolled it up as tight as possible and packed it into the handle about an inch from the butt cap with the help of cotton to keep it from moving around. The balance is now similar to the other racquet. You can def feel the weight is more and will need to put it on a scale as well as a balance board to get the proper numbers. After I get these two restrung I'll then compare with the NIB Redondo 98 I have in storage and see how it is.

DJNeight - I live in Altadena. I wield a PK Redondo "ROD LAVER" Edition. Let's hit.

That would be great. I have met one other Talk Tennis member who lives in Atwater who was a high school varsity player. We have hit a few times. It might be a while though. I'm 3 weeks removed from a calf tear. Have been off crutches for a week and a half and just using a cane (but less and less every day). Went bike riding this past weekend and felt good but my calf still feels pretty tight.
 

SOY78

Professional
I just had a chance to try it using a multi mains/poly crosses at 50# outside for a set in 80 degree weather. This stick reminds me of a lighter version of the Head PT57a or the Head PT280/630. Had a very easy time adjusting to it. It feels like butter and more spin then the legendary Head Prestige line being a 18x20. I think I had the same spin with the Redondo MP and the Volkl PB10 mid. The Redondo has an even more buttery feel than the Volkls. I think I am going to get another one for sure. ;)
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Put Durafluxx 1.20 in my Redondo MP at 45#, CP w 10% prestretch.

This firm low powered string made my kick serves jump! I haven't played Tour Bite in a full bed but figure it might just very well play similar. In a flexible racquet there is no harshness. I'm currently feeling an odd discomfort unlike my TE/GE of the past and am worried its carpal tunnel. So frustrated I have almost walked off the court...

Anyways, it like the string in this racquet. Was playing with the Babolat Pure Drive and testing out the Head Lynx 1.30. Had the weird discomfort with this set up and decided to go back to a softer elbow friendly racquet. Even though I have a stiff string in the PK, it is very comfy.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
Loving the Redondo MP. I changed from HEAD GSP because of extreme change in climate. Going from 20m AHD to 550m AHD, tropical 75% Humidity to Arid 17% Humidity and expecting summer will be worse. I was struggling to control the GSP. I ended up taking all the lead off it and tightened the strings but did not feel comfortable at stock weight and still required me to buggy whip the ball too much for my comfort so went with Redondo MP. I have a big soft spot for PK having played with many over 25 years. The racquet is low enough power for me to swing without worrying about over hitting or changing to more Western grip and increase brush which is not my natural style. It did take a bit (4 hours) to get used to the different launch angle between the GPS & PS90 compared to the Redondo but feel very comfortable swinging through the ball especially on the 1HB. Some negatives is mine is horrible without a vibration dampener, makes a nasty twang and vibration feel, does not effect the shot but feels wrong and sounds bad. Could be due to such a HL racquet flexing, anyway I use a Worm dampener and get much better audible feed back and the weird after feel is gone. Feels solid. One point I really like is it plays great dead volleys which can open the court up, I typically volley to baseline corners for safety and at the net players feet or behind them in doubles but I can comfortably go for the service line cross court without requiring soft hands and trying to drop shot (come under the ball). Volleys still have stick on them which I prefer. Service is much better than I thought, though not as good as the PS90 or GPS in terms of power and spin, it still develops controllable power. In the low humidity environments, kick servers weren't spinning enough so I could not control the power of the PS90 or GSP anyway. I'm basically using flat and slice serves and can't comment on kick, it has the head size for it so should be OK. Slice is interesting, the increase dwell time require me to slice flatter though the ball rather than chop across. It has better control but less spin, which is good, especially for a deep flat side slice approach shot as depth and control are more important than spin. Currently happy with the racquet in stock weight, don't think I'll weight it as I like the current power level and it's in the low side of my preferred weight range, balance is right on. Currently using Poly at 58lb (Yonex Pro 17) and it's very comfortable, I might go to 62lb in summer with Volkl V-Pro or Cyclone as I have reels of it. i prefer dead string so Syth in high 60's if restringing is annoying should be possible. All in all I've very happy and have confidence with the racquet, I'm now watching the contact zone and keeping over the shot longer as I don't feel the uncertainty of hitting long which resulted in watching the ball leave the racquet. I've had to make a few slight adjustments but they're more about returning to my old game style, basically I need to swing through the ball more with less brush or heavy chop. I think it's just the increased dwell time and tighter string pattern but find hitting across the line of the ball does not produce good shots. Volleying is a pleasure as are half volleys if I must. I might post a proper review as there has not been one in a long time but currently I'm injured and likely to take a few weeks to recover. Although probably no help, this racquet is for someone who knows what they want, it's not a generalist racquet. Generalising, for a flatter hitter who want's an all court game especially volleying but not essential. Likes to hit through the ball rather than brush the ball, and likes the softer feel.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
My Redondo's may be staying after all

I recently wanted to sell x2 Redondo 98s (keeping but one) but one was not in compliance with TT selling policies.

Was at the local tennis pro shop over the weekend and brought in my x3 R98s with me to use their digital scale and balance board

#1 L4 grip and a half size heat shrink, TW leather grip (25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm) strung with Tier One Durafluxx
12.6 oz 10 HL

#2 L5, TW leather grip (22mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm) strung with Luxilon Adrenaline Rough
12.8 ox 7 HL

#3 L5, Stock leather grip with factory plastic wrapper strung with Wilson Synthetic Gut. Has not been hit with
12.5 ox 8 HL

I really enjoyed playing with the #1 even before I put the heat shrink on it. I just put an OG. #2 felt a bit sluggish and could notice the less HL balance. #3 is just being saved.

I added an unknown amount of lead in the handle of #2 to bring the balance from 7 to 10. I could really feel the weight and didn't try and play with it. Took the weight out and strung it up for a spin. Surprisingly it didn't feel as sluggish as the first time I played with it. I switched between my #1 and #2 during change overs and think I'll end up keeping it.

Even with a very dense string pattern, I'm finding a great amount of spin on my ground strokes and kick serve (as long as I have a spin oriented string versus syn gut). I've probably hit my best kicker with my Redondo's than my other racquets (Prince POG OS, Prince POG Mid, Boris Becker DC London, Mizuno Turbo Pro Mid, Babolat PD Play). As you can see I like the thin beamed frames. The Babolot found it's way through the gracious play test from last year.
 

anirut

Legend
My Redondo's going to have a rest ... for quite a while ...

The pallet is deteriorating from the many mods I've put the racket through. It seems the staples don't have enough matter to cling on and the buttcap loosens out.

I'll try to fix that with some resin when I have time.

For now I'm going back to my Tour 10 VE Mid.
 

Mac33

Professional
Have two MP Redondo frames. Both strung with 1.2 Cyclone at 48

Have been using the Redondo frame on and off or the past year swapping over with the Wilson Six One 95

Anyway,recently have realised a few things about the 98 Redondo that I had not noticed before.

The first being that I prefer a looser tension with them.

My other Redondo is actually my friends unwanted frame. When I first started playing with it I noticed a significant difference in trajectory,this one being higher.

Although both were strung at 48,this one seems a lot looser,hence a higher trajectory.

Second thing I noticed and this was by accident--- the Redondo has a much harder feel without a dampener!

Not just much harder but a more enjoyable feel--- provided you can get past the initial ping.

Thirdly,the Redondo plays best without an overgrip.

I use a thick cushioned replacement grip and it has added feel to the frame.

No other frame I've used can match the thud the Redondo has!
 
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mishadude

New User
Hey Anirut, I just had a pallet failure on my mid. The pallets all around the bottom of the handle, about 1 1/2 inches up, split the entire way around. It looks like it split where the buttcap staples were put in. It was wacky, hit my normal first serve and it fell right off. The pallets were squeeky since I got it. I haven't read the whole thread here, but wondered if this has happened to anyone else?
 

Mac33

Professional
My friend has a 93 Redondo that has been used for less than an hour,wants to give it away.

Virtually for free,but will prefer to post to Australia only.

We both tested the 93 alongside the 98

The 93 is more like 89 size and we both agreed is just too demanding in terms of mis-hits!

Also the smaller Redondo feels much less buttery in feel compared to the MP.

On a side note I have been having a hit with another PK frame the Q Tour 98.

This frame is from the same mould as the Redondo 98 no question,identical when I overlap them.

However,I dislike the feel of this frame.

Believe it or not I find this frame even more buttery than the Redondo.

I took off the dampener but the vibration went thru the roof unlike with the Redondo,which feels better without the dampener.

Plays ok but the feel of the Redondo is a million times more enjoyable.
 
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tennisdad65

Hall of Fame
Hey Anirut, I just had a pallet failure on my mid. The pallets all around the bottom of the handle, about 1 1/2 inches up, split the entire way around. It looks like it split where the buttcap staples were put in. It was wacky, hit my normal first serve and it fell right off. The pallets were squeeky since I got it. I haven't read the whole thread here, but wondered if this has happened to anyone else?

Yes.. I have 2 Redondo Mids. One has the exact same problem as yours. I use the old copper ace (90) and the new black ace 98 because they are lighter than the Redondo.
 

Mac33

Professional
Had another hit with the 93 Redondo today.

This racquet has a tiny sweet spot and I mean tiny!

Had a warm up with it for 10 minutes,then played the first game with it in a practice match.

Around two thirds of my shots with it felt off centre.

When I did connect it had a awesomely solid feel and excellent power.

A decent bit off centre and wow,no matter how much RHS I could generate I simply could not get decent power!

Swapped over in the second game to the Redondo MP and I could visibly see my ball travelling so much faster! And I mean a lot,lot faster!

On the warm up,also had a hit with the Yonex RDX MP 98,which felt very soft and buttery but honestly i lack power with it too.

At the end of the set played a 10 point tiebreaker with my friends 330g Yonex Tour G 97

My opinion of this frame......too headlight,more so than than the MP Redondo,which might explain the unsolid feel it has when off centre.

Halfway thru the tiebreaker I swapped back to my MP Redondo,and noticed straight away the more solid feel and extra power I was getting.

The secret I believe to getting maximum power and performance out of the MP Redondo is string loose,no more than 45.

At this tension the Redondo hits a seriously big ball with added spin for control.
 
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anirut

Legend
Ummmm ... pallets breaking ...

Is PK wanting to sell spare parts? Like car companies selling spare parts - that's where the real money is.

Just J/K.
 

Roadway

Rookie
After months, i picked up the Redondo again. I stung it with Alpha Gut 2000 17G at 45lbs. I couldn't get enough spin from it than from the Graphite Edge Strung with the same gut at 51lbs. Really makes me upset. I had planned to buy another Redondo as a new year gift for myself, but a little hesitation now. Perhaps it is too demanding for me.
 

SOY78

Professional
After months, i picked up the Redondo again. I stung it with Alpha Gut 2000 17G at 45lbs. I couldn't get enough spin from it than from the Graphite Edge Strung with the same gut at 51lbs. Really makes me upset. I had planned to buy another Redondo as a new year gift for myself, but a little hesitation now. Perhaps it is too demanding for me.

If spin you want then I would stick a poly in the crosses a little looser than the mains. Then it will work wonders :)
 

Roadway

Rookie
If spin you want then I would stick a poly in the crosses a little looser than the mains. Then it will work wonders :)

I seldom used polys. What about total gut stringbed with the a little looser crosses? Years ago, i try to lower crosses tension (2 lbs) in order to keep the sticks less deformed, but i didn't get used to it and come back to sting same tension as usual. With crosses a little looser, the stingbed is somewhat springy, I felt.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
My friend has a 93 Redondo that has been used for less than an hour,wants to give it away.

Virtually for free,but will prefer to post to Australia only.

We both tested the 93 alongside the 98

The 93 is more like 89 size and we both agreed is just too demanding in terms of mis-hits!

Also the smaller Redondo feels much less buttery in feel compared to the MP.

On a side note I have been having a hit with another PK frame the Q Tour 98.

This frame is from the same mould as the Redondo 98 no question,identical when I overlap them.

However,I dislike the feel of this frame.

Believe it or not I find this frame even more buttery than the Redondo.

I took off the dampener but the vibration went thru the roof unlike with the Redondo,which feels better without the dampener.

Plays ok but the feel of the Redondo is a million times more enjoyable.

What is he looking for $ with the 93? I have a 98 which suits me more than 93 but kind of want to see what everyone talks about as a polarising (like/hate) racquet. Not super interested but intrigued, though we might be different in feel, I have about 17g of lead just above the handle to weight it down, and I string at 60lb poly to deaden it. I hit with reasonable spin but moved to the desert which does not assist when 40+ deg and 15% humidity for 9 months coming from FNQ at 32 deg 60+% humidity nearly all year round. Humidity kills you, but you can do magic to a spinning ball. Dry heat just kills you once you hit the wall, literally. The R93 just reminds me of a perfect grass court racquet, no grass in the dessert though. Still intrigued!
 

Mac33

Professional
Well,if you live down here in Australia or come for a holiday you can have it for free.

The 93 if I had to use it again,I would string seriously low,around 40.

Had a hit of a old RF frame the other day,the PS90.

The string was really loose which I found increased the sweet spot and the power level.

Try the Gamma 98 t-----the FREE power you get with this frame should have it banned.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
I'm in Alice Springs so if you can post I'll deposit $60 in an account to cover P&H I think a racquet is $20 postage with Aust Post, just wrap in in old cardboard carton and tape don't need a box which fits just brake open to flat cardboard and wrap around, corrugated works best.
I have family in Adelaide so can get them to pick up if near CBD, they can post.
I'm in Melbourne 23 - 26th Jan for AO. I might be able to get you ticket to AO on the Saturday as the chick wants to go shopping instead of tennis, but not sure if tickets are transferable, last time I went they really only checked baggage and camera's not ID.
Otherwise I'm pretty much stuck in the middle of nowhere, I think the nearest civilization (20,000 people) is 2,000 km away.

I got a 2012/13? PS90 unused off a sponsored player for $100, it too much of a canon in Alice Springs, was good in Nth Qld. There's no humidity to assist spin, it's 40+ deg most days so the balls fly (increase pressure) and it's 550m RL compared to playing in Adelaide / Sydney or Townsville which range from 25m to 50m (thinner air). The surface here is plexipave and heavily brushed (roughened) to spin kicks like a mule but de-fluffs balls in a set. I struggle to keep the PS90 in the court even with tight strings.

The only issue I have with Redondo 98 is the very flat launch angle on my BH slice. I prefer a chop slice to a Rosewall style flatter slice and chop tends to go into the net. A flat slice works well, but that's not my natural action. I've ended up playing flatter top spin instead of the slice or using top spin more often.
 

Mac33

Professional
Sure,if you can message me thru e-mail with details,will send it ASAP.

The frame is as new,used for 15-30 minutes.

Downside,I took off the leather grip and threw it away as I did with my three other Redondo's.

If you still want a leather grip I should be able to take one off one of my friends numerous racquets,if he hasn't thrown them away too.

It's strung with 1.2 Cyclone at 46.
 

Kemitak

Professional
After a few seasons of stringing my Redondo Mid with Gamma Professional (better than nat. gut.) at about 65 lbs., I restrung with Kirschbaum Spikey Black Shark 17 at 45 lbs. and I have an altogether new racket. Low-tensioned, shaped poly's are the way to go, with any racket. I now get a ton of spin (that's the correct unit of measure?); and a ton of power, but controlled, in part by the spin, in part by the dense string pattern. I'm excited about this racket again.
 

Mac33

Professional
Will make that my next string on that exceptional recommendation.

I do believe that dense string patterns in years to come will be / should be phased out!

I'm not a big fan of them.

Less spin for sure,less power,smaller sweet spot and a boardy sort of feel.

On smaller head size frames,its just not needed.

On frame sizes of around 90 or smaller----I'm a big fan of going 40 pounds of tension or less.

The lower tension really adds to the size of the sweetsot on this size.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Spikey is in my inventory and will try soon

I have enjoyed Tier One Sports Durafluxx 17 in my MP. Also. Luxilon adrenaline rough was nice but Durafluxx is my fav. Want to try tour bite 17/18 if I stay with poly.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
I think there is still a place for dense pattern racquets in the market for those that have more of a flat to decent topspin type game.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
The place for heavy, flexible and dense string pattern will and always has been for S&V or doubles. Basically volleying. From the back of the court there is more benefit of increased spin either for safety or to increase the pace of the shot hence open pattern. There is a serving benefit it predictability but that is not great enough in today's game to benefit overall. With the demise of grass and development of poly the 18x20 will likely end, but so has/will the 90 or 93" frame. As a non-professional there is benefit 18x20 which is it allows one to hit out without requiring good timing generate spin to bring the ball down. It also allows better grooving on shots as they are more predictable. 20x22 have disappeared and it's likely 18x20 will as well, though there could be a place for a 110" 18x20 in a pro-stock spec. Which would equate to 16x18 in 90-95", only issue is most over 100" racquets are spec'ed for either beginners or veterans and that wont change until a top pro starts winning to break the stigma, Seles, Agassi and Chang could not.

PS: Mac33 I sent an email let me know you did not get it.
 

Mac33

Professional
From testing between 50 to 100 players frames I've come to the conclusion.....

I love flexible frames and hate stiff frames.

My best 4 frames in order.

First.....Gamma RZR 98 t------- wins hands down due to massive free power,huge sweet spot and that soft flexible feel. A bludgeoning tool!

Second......Wilson Six One.....I just played close to my potential with it. Excellent power and control. A bit HL so not that solid a feel.

Prince Exo 3 Tour..... Super flexible feel,though lacking in power. It needs added weight to the hoop then its a very enjoyable frame to play with.

Redondo 98..... Comes in fourth place. Solid,slightly soft feel. Excellent control.

PM Chambers,yes I sent you an e-mail.
 
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