**** #1 Redondo Talks Thread ****

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  1. anirut

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    You're right. As the hitter you don't feel it. Be at the receiving end and it's different. I've tasted my own poison and then only I knew it.

    TW ... PLEASEEEEE ... bring back the mid ...
     
  2. movdqa

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    I didn't know that they dropped the mid. The TW page talks about the Black Ace in the Heritage section but the Black Ace isn't there either.
     
  3. Mac33

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    Have a tournament coming up and I have no clue what frame to use.

    My Yonex RD-7 was not performing today!

    Great power but I was dumping so many balls with it into the net....like I usually do on my off days with it.

    Tomorrow I'm going to try out my old Yonex 93 RDiS mid for the umpteenth time.

    For absolute pure control - the Redondo MP strung with Cylone is probably as good as it gets.

    The dwell time I get with this combo can only be matched by my Prince Tour 100 / Cylone combo.

    I do get a bit more offensive power with the Redondo especially on put away shots - the Prince Tour hits a pretty loopy ball.

    On my best day - I feel I play my best with the Yonex RD-7.....due to the sheer power it offers.

    On my worst day - I feel I play my best with the Redondo MP.....due to the extra control.
     
  4. Jadom

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    Regretfully after 8 weeks off from tennis with the worst case of tennis elbow I've ever had, my two Rendondo Midplus racquets are up for grabs on a certain big auction site. I enjoyed playing with them for 3 months, but have decided they are too demanding for me and I'm going back to my trusty ProKennex 7G's that seem to best for my arm.
     
  5. djNEiGht

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    Sorry to hear @Jadom

    I have x2 4 5/8 and x1 4 1/2. I pref the 4 1/2 due to the more HL balance. The other two are more head heavy and they are more challenging to swing. I tried to make similar balance but it got too heavy
     
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    Got a couple of 98's to continue experimentation with. Kevlar mains, Poly cross strung 18x10, skipping every other cross. The spin is absolutely insane and the launch angle is crazy too but I became accustomed to it after only a couple of minutes. Going back to a normal racquet is much, much more difficult. Control is fine when going flat from the 18 mains.
    Comfort is a huge issue and a lot of weight has to be added to the bumper, 3+9 and the throat.

    I'll add pics later. It's not pretty.
     
  7. Jadom

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    Somehow the stiffer ProKennex 7G feels better on my arm than the more flexible Redondo. Maybe those kinetic particles actually do work! In my first hit back after 8 weeks off, I hit for 10 minutes with a 7G and 5 minutes with Rendondo 98 and could feel the shock transferring to my still sensitive elbow much more with the Redondo. Both racquets were strung at the same tension (51 lbs) with soft strings.
     
  8. Mac33

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    Tested the Redondo MP against the PK Q Tour 325 a few days ago. Both strung with Cyclone at 48.

    These two frames are 100 percent identical when you overlay them! String pattern is the same too.

    They come from the same mold. Bumper guards identical as well. Everything identical yet....they play different!


    Different as in they have a completely different power level.

    Redondo MP - I rate it low to mid low powered. Redondo 93 Mid - is extremely low powered.

    98 Q Tour 325g - I rate it off the charts powerful - as in the most powerful players frame out there.

    Believe it gets its power from the tremendous spring of the frame. Different type of carbon i believe. Hard to explain or describe the feel till you test it.

    TW Rated this frame at something like 73 for power while giving the Babolat Pure Drive Tour an 86 rating.

    I have this Babolat frame strung at the same 48 pound tension and its nowhere near as powerful as the Q Tour 325g.

    Anyway,the Redondo MP is my second favourite frame of all time.

    I'm very consistent with it - i feel very connected to where the ball is going - but again it lacks power!

    When playing with the Redondo MP - I tend to grunt a lot playing my strokes - as I need to really swing at close to max RHS to get power. With the Q Tour 325g I do not grunt at all - and I am able to generate much more power!

    In terms of softness of impact for a person with tennis elbow or some other arm / shoulder injury - I feel the Q Tour is by far the better choice.

    Despite its 63 flex rating compared to the 56 of the Redondo MP - it plays a lot softer.

    Lastly,I'm thinking of getting my Redondo MP restrung at a very low 35 pounds to add some pop to it.
     
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  9. Solek

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    Anyone have laver or redondo 93 they are looking to sale in 4 3/8 grip?
     
  10. Simplicius

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    Is there any possibility to find a (new or little used) ProKennex Heritage Type C 98 Redondo MP in Europe at this time?
    Sorry if this is already answered - I'm just strating to read the thread and 82 pgs need some ...days!
     
  11. movdqa

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    I see them in the Strings Forum from time to time.
     
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    I am happily revisiting my Redondo MP at the moment. I've been on arm care duties for a year and a half now with Prince EXO3 tour 100's, 16x18 full bed of gut, most recently Klip Legend at 55/50lbs. The heavier the better for me so currently at 367g, 7-8pts head light :)
    Whilst very easy on my arm and enough power to return anything as long as I time it ;) the 16 x 18 pattern is a bit lively and a challenge to be consistent with, esp with nat gut..
    So I dusted off my Redondo MP and gave it a blast. I added some lead to 3 9 and 12 and get excellent pop on all shots inc serve, the extra control from 18x20 pattern is very evident and very welcome. Enjoyable hitting with the coach and playing games, although I lost overall..
    I enjoyed playing with it so much I bought a Prince EXO3 tour 100 18x20 to compare. Will be strung the same so let see.
     
  13. Simplicius

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    Just got it! And almost brand new!
    Only the original leather grip is missing.
    Looking forward to test it on Saturday!
    So, you can add me into your club!
    I wish to be a good choice.
    I've read too many good comments about it.
    :cool:
     
  14. Crocodile

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    What an amazing thread that started in 2006 and is now over 82 pages long. I bought one of these before (mp) but had a rattle inside that I couldn't fix but looking to try again for testing purposes and comparisons with other similar sticks. Would be interesting to see how the Redondo plays compared to the latest offerings from PK (Q Tour 325 plus), obviously it should be more flexible with its 57 RA.
     
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  15. Simplicius

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    Finally I played with Redondo C 98 yesterday.

    What a wonderful racquet it is!!!!!!!
    Best racquet I've ever hit with; and a have hit with many.

    It's exactly what I’m looking for.
    A better IG Prestige MP version.
    The same super-stability (against big hitters) of my “ex” IGPMP, but with a lot better comfort and “feel”.

    Maybe the only racquet I'd ever have and does not need any customization.
    It plays so fine in the stock form.

    So, another one happy owner!!!
    I’m gonna keep it for ever.
    Tnx PK!!!

    PS: Btw, car polish wax in a spray reduces the rubber stickiness a lot…
     
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    I'd recommend stocking up.
     
  17. Simplicius

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    I've update the post Mov...
     
  18. Mac33

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    I got my 98 Redondo strung with max thickness MSV Focus Hex at 47 pounds - the identical tension and string to my PK Q Tour 325g.

    Had them both strung with Cyclone before.

    The Q Tour plays much better as in more control with the MSV string.

    The Redondo doesn't seem to be any better. It does feel a lot softer on contact than the Cyclone.

    Q Tour 325 offers so much more free power than the Redondo with a bigger sweet spot.

    Still love my Redondo 98 - the feel is so much different to any other frame.
     
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  19. Bogdan_TT

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    MSV F H ftw!
     
  20. sbaniak

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    Hey Redondoids. I got my hands on a Redondo MP and am somewhat perplexed. Mine weighs 354gr, which seems more or less on spec... but the balance is just about even. Is that "normal" for Prokennex to be that far off on the balance point? I peeked under the guard thinking maybe some hidden lead was up there - but no, though the 354gr weight would imply that there couldn't be enough added to change the balance that much anyway. Plow is great, but it feels really cumbersome and clubby like a heavy Blade.
     
  21. Simplicius

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    No, it's way tooooooo much to be a QC problem...
    Maybe something is injected inside the hoop.
    Foam, silicone, who knows...
     
  22. sbaniak

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    I was thinking that too... Especially given Anirut's Super-Redondo cookbook on here.. But the static weight is not really high enough for that to make sense either. The weights pretty much on spec.
     
  23. djNEiGht

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    bummer

    That is the same with 2 of my MP. I added weight to get the balance to another one that I like but just too heavy for this weekend warrior now...
     
  24. Simplicius

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    354g vs 347g (mine) is not little weight, with those 8gs (btw could be 10g or even more) are placed near 12...
     
  25. speedysteve

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    I posted in the PK appreciation thread by mistake.

    Better here.

    Reading about the Redondo exploits above and having slightly itchy feet over my Prince EXO3 tour 100's I got my 98 Redondo out again for an airing today.
    It's now strung with a Klip Legend natural gut mains and a slick Prince Synth of some description in the crosses. It plays quite like gut/poly but that's for another thread..
    Crossing from the 18 x 20 Prince EXO3 tour to the Redondo is a doddle. All my racquets are weighted and balanced to be very similar. They also need 'some' overgrips as I like a big grip. 4 7/8 or even 5 if you measure palm and finger or want a bit of a gap between fingers and thumb.
    From the 16 x 18 EXO3 you have to adjust for a lot lower launch angle :)

    I really enjoyed the Redondo today. I like the clomp it gives the ball off both wings.
    The control gives me confidence in topspin backhands that I find I sometimes lack when things get tight with the 16 x 18 pattern. See thread on how not to choke away a match :)
    I did have a bit too much lead on the hoop.
    I now have 3g at 9 and 3 o'clock. Had 4 or 6g at 12 o'clock but I just don't need it and it was impeding my swing I felt.
    I'm still reassuringly head light.

    Def. Gonna have more time with the redoubtable Redondo.
     
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  26. anirut

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    Hello guys!

    Great to see this thread still going strong. I haven't visited TT in quite a long while.

    Anyway, does anyone know where can I get a new Redondo Mid (93), regardless of grip size. (I can always change the pallet for the right size.)
     
  27. PMChambers

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    You'll need an army of knights for this quest for the Holy Grail.

    I gave a Mint condition 4 1/2 to Connors reincarnation, he's loving it so no go there.

    Seriously your going to struggle for new. Europe probably best bet as ProKennex supply issues where not as bad thrre, but thought they used the Black Ace instead. you should be able to snag a Mint 93, some people bought and could not handle.
     
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