10 under Playing Quick Start for USTA Ranking Points ?

[BeachTennis]

-------- County Junior Open - SC L 3 Southern Level 5

Should this be? Has the USTA voted on this for a nation wide standard?

10 AND UNDER DIVISIONS BOYS AND GIRLS 10 AND UNDER DIVISIONS WILL PLAY THE QUICK START TENNIS FORMAT
USING THE 60 FOOT COURT AND TRANSITION BALLS. THESE MATCHES WILL BEGIN SATURDAY AND PLAY A SHORT SETS FORMAT (2 SETS TO 4 GAMES with a 3rd set if necessary being first to 7 points.) Draws limited to 16.


AGES 8 AND UNDER MUST PLAY IN THE 10 & UNDER AGE DIVISION
PLAYERS AGE 8 AND UNDER MUST REGISTER IN THE 10 AND UNDER AGE DIVISION WHICH WILL PLAY USING THE QUICK START FORMAT ON THE 60 FT COURT, USING THE ORANGE BALL AND MODIFIED SCORING. PLAYERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP IN THE 8 AND UNDER DIVISION WILL BE MOVED TO THE 10 & UNDER DIVISION.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

I didn't think the Quick Start program contributes ranking points, but perhaps someone can verify that.

 

[slicekick95]

I didn't think the Quick Start program contributes ranking points, but perhaps someone can verify that.

yeah, at my club they had posters for quick start, and it wasnt like tournament play for rankings

 

[JLyon]

please no rankings, I detest that they even have competitive tournaments for 10U. Ideally I would not even have a 12U because far to many of the parents have become outrageous and heap way to much pressure on these kids.

 

[scraps234]

well atleast its not all 10 and u...i guess its ok to have dif formats every once in awhile...but plz for most keep it normal

 

[BeachTennis]

USTA Tournament Page

This is taken from a level 3 Tournament homepage!

This is not a novice event or a challenger, but a Southern Level 5!

Not all events are being run this way ,but for some reason this event was able to run this format.

USTA National was voting on this in meeting in California this past weekend?

All 10's being played on the 60 foot court!

But why go do a event in this format before it becomes the rule?

-------- County Junior Open - SC L 3 Southern Level 5

Should this be? Has the USTA voted on this for a nation wide standard?

10 AND UNDER DIVISIONS BOYS AND GIRLS 10 AND UNDER DIVISIONS WILL PLAY THE QUICK START TENNIS FORMAT
USING THE 60 FOOT COURT AND TRANSITION BALLS. THESE MATCHES WILL BEGIN SATURDAY AND PLAY A SHORT SETS FORMAT (2 SETS TO 4 GAMES with a 3rd set if necessary being first to 7 points.) Draws limited to 16.


AGES 8 AND UNDER MUST PLAY IN THE 10 & UNDER AGE DIVISION
PLAYERS AGE 8 AND UNDER MUST REGISTER IN THE 10 AND UNDER AGE DIVISION WHICH WILL PLAY USING THE QUICK START FORMAT ON THE 60 FT COURT, USING THE ORANGE BALL AND MODIFIED SCORING. PLAYERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP IN THE 8 AND UNDER DIVISION WILL BE MOVED TO THE 10 & UNDER DIVISION.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

This is taken from a level 3 Tournament homepage!

This is not a novice event or a challenger, but a Southern Level 5!

Not all events are being run this way ,but for some reason this event was able to run this format.

USTA National was voting on this in meeting in California this past weekend?

All 10's being played on the 60 foot court!

But why go do a event in this format before it becomes the rule?

First I have heard of this. The better 8-10 year olds would destroy a 60 foot court. It makes great sense for beginners, not much sense for the better kids. Heck my 4 year old can hit from the baseline and covers most of the court fairly easily.

They say Justine Henin learned playing minitennis....but I doubt she still did that at 9-10 years old though.

 

[BradBaughman]

First I have heard of this. The better 8-10 year olds would destroy a 60 foot court. It makes great sense for beginners, not much sense for the better kids. Heck my 4 year old can hit from the baseline and covers most of the court fairly easily.

They say Justine Henin learned playing minitennis....but I doubt she still did that at 9-10 years old though.

HEY TCF i have the boy grinding out matches still on mini T, but is this gonna be cutting dowmn the court size for regulation matches is that whats be said?

 

[tacoben]

Personally, I feel that the Quick Start Program should not contribute towards ranking points as the play disparity is pretty obvious. Quick start and low compression balls are good for kids, say age 7 and below.

 

[Tennisprov1]

Beginning in 2011, all USTA 10 & under sanctioned tournaments will be played on 60-foot courts. North Carolina will begin in 2010. If a player wishes to compete on a regular-sized court and is under 10 years old, then they will have to play the 12s.

There are also MAJOR changes coming in regards to junior tennis in this country. PDAG is a committee that has been garnering opinions from parents, players and coaches over the past year or so and presented their findings within a proposal to change junior tennis beginning in 2011. It will come up for a vote at the USTA annual meeting in September.

Initially, I am leery of the proposal. I understand the rationale, but feel that opportunities for entry to the national championships will be distributed unevenly. It will be much easier to qualify for nationals out of certain regions than others. Also, the number of opportunities to earn national points and qualify for national elevel play will be greatly reduced.

Anybody else read the results and the new plan? What are your thoughts?

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

Beginning in 2011, all USTA 10 & under sanctioned tournaments will be played on 60-foot courts. North Carolina will begin in 2010. If a player wishes to compete on a regular-sized court and is under 10 years old, then they will have to play the 12s.

There are also MAJOR changes coming in regards to junior tennis in this country. PDAG is a committee that has been garnering opinions from parents, players and coaches over the past year or so and presented their findings within a proposal to change junior tennis beginning in 2011. It will come up for a vote at the USTA annual meeting in September.

Initially, I am leery of the proposal. I understand the rationale, but feel that opportunities for entry to the national championships will be distributed unevenly. It will be much easier to qualify for nationals out of certain regions than others. Also, the number of opportunities to earn national points and qualify for national elevel play will be greatly reduced.

Anybody else read the results and the new plan? What are your thoughts?

Many people think the 10s rankings are irrelevant, and this pretty much makes that so.

I would not put the best Florida 8-9-10 year olds on a 60 foot court, it would drive them nuts. Stefan Kozlov or Sonya Kenin on a 60 foot court is just silly. But they mostly play up anyway.

This just makes the 10s ranking even more meaningless than they are already. The better kids won't bother.

 

[region2champion]

Many people think the 10s rankings are irrelevant, and this pretty much makes that so.

I would not put the best Florida 8-9-10 year olds on a 60 foot court, it would drive them nuts. Stefan Kozlov or Sonya Kenin on a 60 foot court is just silly. But they mostly play up anyway.

This just makes the 10s ranking even more meaningless than they are already. The better kids won't bother.

Exactly, this is crazy, it's outrageous. I don't know who is voting on this but they must have never been around good juniors. It should be for 6 and unders at the oldest. Can you imagine 10 year olds in Florida like the Makaromes, Davey Roberts, Reilly Opelka, Alexander Del Corral, Sofia Kenin, Anastasia Nefedova, and Stefan Kozlov playing Quick Start. It's crazy.

 

[region2champion]

Beginning in 2011, all USTA 10 & under sanctioned tournaments will be played on 60-foot courts. North Carolina will begin in 2010. If a player wishes to compete on a regular-sized court and is under 10 years old, then they will have to play the 12s.

There are also MAJOR changes coming in regards to junior tennis in this country. PDAG is a committee that has been garnering opinions from parents, players and coaches over the past year or so and presented their findings within a proposal to change junior tennis beginning in 2011. It will come up for a vote at the USTA annual meeting in September.

Initially, I am leery of the proposal. I understand the rationale, but feel that opportunities for entry to the national championships will be distributed unevenly. It will be much easier to qualify for nationals out of certain regions than others. Also, the number of opportunities to earn national points and qualify for national elevel play will be greatly reduced.

Anybody else read the results and the new plan? What are your thoughts?

Can you explain in detail what major changes are being cosidered. Where is the article.

 

[catfish2424]

I do not know how this method would help the junior development, but America does need help in that department, but we should be back having more top junior as the 92-95 classes are very strong, Also this format was first used in Spain, which has a very high level of tennis.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

I do not know how this method would help the junior development, but America does need help in that department, but we should be back having more top junior as the 92-95 classes are very strong, Also this format was first used in Spain, which has a very high level of tennis.

This article says Spain and Argentina do not have mini-tennis at tournaments and are the most successful countries at producing top talent. It says that the British system of mandating mini tennis, which now the USTA is doing, is not what the top talent producing countries do at all.

I get it that it brings more 4-7 year olds into the game and keeps them interested since they have success right away....that is great. But my question is why would the USTA make it mandatory for 10s? There is such a huge difference between 4-7s and 9-10s. The 9-10s I see that play tennis regularly would hate the game if they had to play on a small court. Anyway, this article is a decent read.

http://www.tennislife.co.uk/08-editorial/09_01/mini_tennis/mini1.html

 

[amtennis]

In my humble opinion, the USTA is trying to grasp at straws to try and figure out why the Europeans are producing "junior/turn/pro" players. They zoned in on "quick start tennis" and said AH HA - that has to be it! Wrong!

Its not the quick start tennis that is the hard core reason that Europe is producing players....its the whole package.

I recently spent some time in Europe and the overall feeling of "tenniseurope" is totally different than in the USA.

My experience is on the girls side so that is the perspective that I am speaking of.

The European girls are just different from the USA girls. At the tournaments, the girls are: focusing, warming up, talking to their coaches, jump roping, running sprints, etc... The USA girls were laughing, chatting with friends etc.

Its just a different mindset from the beginning. The European girls are not so much trying to achieve ranking points as they are trying to develop skills.

I heard one Coach tell the player - "I don't care if you win or lose - just work on your drop shot - it will be a weapon in the pros." Now in my opinion...thats training.

Not the good ole USTA teaching " just be consistant..keep the ball in play...."

Just my thoughts...

 

[ubermeyer]

No, because then they would have to "relearn" the game to play on the mini-courts.

 

[BradBaughman]

This is a stupid idea!

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

In my humble opinion, the USTA is trying to grasp at straws to try and figure out why the Europeans are producing "junior/turn/pro" players. They zoned in on "quick start tennis" and said AH HA - that has to be it! Wrong!

Its not the quick start tennis that is the hard core reason that Europe is producing players....its the whole package.

I recently spent some time in Europe and the overall feeling of "tenniseurope" is totally different than in the USA.

My experience is on the girls side so that is the perspective that I am speaking of.

The European girls are just different from the USA girls. At the tournaments, the girls are: focusing, warming up, talking to their coaches, jump roping, running sprints, etc... The USA girls were laughing, chatting with friends etc.

Its just a different mindset from the beginning. The European girls are not so much trying to achieve ranking points as they are trying to develop skills.

I heard one Coach tell the player - "I don't care if you win or lose - just work on your drop shot - it will be a weapon in the pros." Now in my opinion...thats training.

Not the good ole USTA teaching " just be consistant..keep the ball in play...."

Just my thoughts...

What a great post with insight on the different attitudes. I hope you post more on this board about what you saw with juniors in Europe.

 

[BradBaughman]

Beginning in 2011, all USTA 10 & under sanctioned tournaments will be played on 60-foot courts. North Carolina will begin in 2010. If a player wishes to compete on a regular-sized court and is under 10 years old, then they will have to play the 12s.

There are also MAJOR changes coming in regards to junior tennis in this country. PDAG is a committee that has been garnering opinions from parents, players and coaches over the past year or so and presented their findings within a proposal to change junior tennis beginning in 2011. It will come up for a vote at the USTA annual meeting in September.

Initially, I am leery of the proposal. I understand the rationale, but feel that opportunities for entry to the national championships will be distributed unevenly. It will be much easier to qualify for nationals out of certain regions than others. Also, the number of opportunities to earn national points and qualify for national elevel play will be greatly reduced.

Anybody else read the results and the new plan? What are your thoughts?

This is funny let me ask coaches ,parents ,and players on how to do my job better !! Just shows once again why were in trouble here in the USA , but these people are in good company i heard recently mr.obama had a open forum on the internet by asking what people thought might help fix our country ,he's asking the common person who knows how to fire up a PC ,good grief !

 

[10isDad]

Never having been abroad and because I'm unable to find anything specific in countless searches on the internet, I humbly ask the following question:

What, exactly, is "the Spanish system"?

What are the components of this so-called system? Is it more drill-based? More point-play based? Anybody here have any concrete examples of this system of training?

Finally, just a hypothetical question: Could the preponderance of so many international professionals vs. US professionals be due more to the fact that tennis is often a government-funded institution in these countries? Federations that identify more talented juniors (dozens to hundreds by some accounts, not a handful like the USTA), throw more money and training their way, federations that help to take away the rich, country-club aspect of the game and financially assist the masses?

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

Never having been abroad and because I'm unable to find anything specific in countless searches on the internet, I humbly ask the following question:

What, exactly, is "the Spanish system"?

What are the components of this so-called system? Is it more drill-based? More point-play based? Anybody here have any concrete examples of this system of training?

Finally, just a hypothetical question: Could the preponderance of so many international professionals vs. US professionals be due more to the fact that tennis is often a government-funded institution in these countries? Federations that identify more talented juniors (dozens to hundreds by some accounts, not a handful like the USTA), throw more money and training their way, federations that help to take away the rich, country-club aspect of the game and financially assist the masses?

Excellent questions. I have visited the new Sanchez Academy in Naples 3 times and discussed the "Spanish Way" with others. This is what I have learned so far.

1. The Spanish do have a thriving minitennis program for very little kids. Soccer and tennis are very appealing to their kids. Although their kids play many other sports, tennis is higher on the favored sports list than it is for US kids. Some coaches have told me that after soccer tennis is the next big deal...of course Nadal helps that. In America you would say football, basketball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, golf, and probably others ranked higher with the kids than tennis.

2. Spanish coaches are much less complicated....less verbal instruction, more showing the kids and letting them groove their own individual strokes. Sort of a page right out of the 'Inner Game of Tennis'.

3. Spanish coaches rarely work with any more than 10-12 drills. The practices are simple and let the kids play rather than stop and instuct. The strokes are much less regimented and adjusted for each individual.

4. Movement is stressed first. For example American kids may start off learning set forehands and backhands, hitting over and over. Think about the videos posted here...almost all are kids being fed balls and basically standing in one spot and smacking the ball over and over. From the beginning Spanish kids are made to chase the ball all over the court and 'get it over the net' however they can. Less structure, more crazy play for the younger kids.

5. Clay....as prevalent as hard courts are here, its red clay there. This developes the legs to a much higher level than hard courts. It also allows the kids to learn angles and point construction.

This only scratches the surface, I hope to continue learning more about their methods.

 

[BradBaughman]

Excellent questions. I have visited the new Sanchez Academy in Naples 3 times and discussed the "Spanish Way" with others. This is what I have learned so far.

1. The Spanish do have a thriving minitennis program for very little kids. Soccer and tennis are very appealing to their kids. Although their kids play many other sports, tennis is higher on the favored sports list than it is for US kids. Some coaches have told me that after soccer tennis is the next big deal...of course Nadal helps that. In America you would say football, basketball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, golf, and probably others ranked higher with the kids than tennis.

2. Spanish coaches are much less complicated....less verbal instruction, more showing the kids and letting them groove their own individual strokes. Sort of a page right out of the 'Inner Game of Tennis'.

3. Spanish coaches rarely work with any more than 10-12 drills. The practices are simple and let the kids play rather than stop and instuct. The strokes are much less regimented and adjusted for each individual.

4. Movement is stressed first. For example American kids may start off learning set forehands and backhands, hitting over and over. Think about the videos posted here...almost all are kids being fed balls and basically standing in one spot and smacking the ball over and over. From the beginning Spanish kids are made to chase the ball all over the court and 'get it over the net' however they can. Less structure, more crazy play for the younger kids.

5. Clay....as prevalent as hard courts are here, its red clay there. This developes the legs to a much higher level than hard courts. It also allows the kids to learn angles and point construction.

This only scratches the surface, I hope to continue learning more about their methods.

we can always learn from different people but all were talking about is spending a great amount of time with kids on specific things that will cause them to progress a little faster then normal ,its not the Spanish Way its "just good old fashion hard work" and a great eye to see what needs to be done !!

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

we can always learn from different people but all were talking about is spending a great amount of time with kids on specific things that will cause them to progress a little faster then normal ,its not the Spanish Way its "just good old fashion hard work" and a great eye to see what needs to be done !!

Lets see, will I listen to Spanish coaches who outline how totally different their system is than the US system, and who have had tremendous success at every level of tennis. Coaches who lay out the benefits of red clay for developing players, the difference in the way strokes are taught, the difference in the way angles, movement,and court coverage are taught. Coaches who have players who excel in ITF. Coaches from a country with 1/9th the population of the US yet twice as many top 100 pros....

Or a guy on the internet who has never coached a player who has ever won anything on any level yet still insists that he knows more about developing a pro player than any living or dead human....even though he has zero results.

Silly me, I will go with the first option.

 

[BradBaughman]

Lets see, will I listen to Spanish coaches who outline how totally different their system is than the US system, and who have had tremendous success at every level of tennis. Coaches who lay out the benefits of red clay for developing players, the difference in the way strokes are taught, the difference in the way angles, movement,and court coverage are taught. Coaches who have players who excel in ITF. Coaches from a country with 1/9th the population of the US yet twice as many top 100 pros....

Or a guy on the internet who has never coached a player who has ever won anything on any level yet still insists that he knows more about developing a pro player than any living or dead human....even though he has zero results.

Silly me, I will go with the first option.

Lets see are looking long term or short ? Well lets see Sampras 14 gs,, Agassi 8gs.. Chang 1gs ,,Courier 4gs,, vs hmm Nadal 6gs and who else do they have?? and our boys did this through 1 decade well if the proof is in the pudding I know what bowl ill eat from! Anyways from one internet guy to another when did i ever say i know more then anyone else about developing pros ?? MR predict a juniors career or was your position you couldnt?? As we see our Americans have quite a resume the ""4 amigos"" and lo and behold it wasn't built in Spain nor were they inner-city! My post says what it takes ""GOOD OLD FASHION HARD WORK"" I GUESS I DO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD A PRO!!


SILLYi think you should reconsider your options!

 

[BeachTennis]

83rd Annual National Public Parks Tennis Championships

RANKING LEVELS
All Junior Divisions will be Southern Level 4 and South Carolina Level 2


Age 10 and Under
Quick Start format: All players in the 10 and under divisions will use the quick start format. The play will be on a 60’ court with a low compression ball. The 10-and-under group should play the best of three sets and the first to win four games wins a set. For the third set, the first player to win the seven points wins the match. ALL 10 AND UNDER PLAYERS WANTING TO PLAY ON A REGULAR COURT WITH REGULAR BALLS SHOULD ENTER 12 AND UNDER AGE DIVISION EVENTS.

 

[TnsMan2]

RANKING LEVELS
All Junior Divisions will be Southern Level 4 and South Carolina Level 2


Age 10 and Under
Quick Start format: All players in the 10 and under divisions will use the quick start format. The play will be on a 60’ court with a low compression ball. The 10-and-under group should play the best of three sets and the first to win four games wins a set. For the third set, the first player to win the seven points wins the match. ALL 10 AND UNDER PLAYERS WANTING TO PLAY ON A REGULAR COURT WITH REGULAR BALLS SHOULD ENTER 12 AND UNDER AGE DIVISION EVENTS.

This system is a waste of time , think about this ive taken a boy at 5 1/2 years old put a racket in his hand started working on the fundamentals and footwork and hes turned out to handle the court and the racket quite well, by the time he was 10 he was already making a statement on how to hit a ball and play matches with a very aggressive style.

This is the conclusion if a guy can take a kid and neither have ever played the sport and have had great progress """what should all these so-called coaches and pro's be able to do compared to us """" ??

this quick start to me is another way of trying to microwave the road to great tennis.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

This system is a waste of time , think about this ive taken a boy at 5 1/2 years old put a racket in his hand started working on the fundamentals and footwork and hes turned out to handle the court and the racket quite well, by the time he was 10 he was already making a statement on how to hit a ball and play matches with a very aggressive style.

This is the conclusion if a guy can take a kid and neither have ever played the sport and have had great progress """what should all these so-called coaches and pro's be able to do compared to us """" ??

this quick start to me is another way of trying to microwave the road to great tennis.

I agree. 10 is way too old to be hitting on a 60 foot court. To get kids started at age 3-6 fine.

But pretty much any reasonably coordinated kid is easily playing a full court by age 8 or 9.

I can't think of one student in our area who would not be miserable hitting on a 60 foot court at age 10. So their only option is to play up to the 12s I guess.

 

[tomas9848]

it doesnt matter to me.

 

[t135]

Several people mentioned "mini-tennis" being used in Europe (Spain, England). What is the mini tennis setup used in Europe?

Is it like the mini tennis I've used for practice and training for over 20 years where you just play in the service boxes?

Or do they use mini courts like the USTA is doing now?

Anybody have specific details?

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

Several people mentioned "mini-tennis" being used in Europe (Spain, England). What is the mini tennis setup used in Europe?

Is it like the mini tennis I've used for practice and training for over 20 years where you just play in the service boxes?

Or do they use mini courts like the USTA is doing now?

Anybody have specific details?

Mini tennis can refer to 2 totally different things. The first is a warm up used by many players before a match, even professionals. The players warm up their strokes at the service line, using slow, full strokes. They work forehands, backhands, volleys. Then they back up to the baseline and continue the warm up.

The 2nd thing called mini tennis is the system for beginning kids. It uses foam balls to start, tiny nets, tiny racquets, small area of the court, etc. The kids graduate into larger court area and equipment as they mature.

I think you are talking about the Play and Stay system used in Europe (except for Spain, their federation does not oficially support it). Play and Stay is the 2nd way to use the term mini tennis.

http://www.tennisplayandstay.com/site/

 

[t135]

Thanks for the response but I think you misread my question. You described the same thing I already described; with more detail. My question was what organized 'program' is used for juniors in Europe?

Is mini tennis used loosely as a practice/training tool?

Or is it more like QuickStart with specific court dimensions, balls, and mandatory participation for specific age groups?

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

Mini tennis can refer to 2 totally different things. The first is a warm up used by many players before a match, even professionals. The players warm up their strokes at the service line, using slow, full strokes. They work forehands, backhands, volleys. Then they back up to the baseline and continue the warm up.

The 2nd thing called mini tennis is the system for beginning kids. It uses foam balls to start, tiny nets, tiny racquets, small area of the court, etc. The kids graduate into larger court area and equipment as they mature.

I think you are talking about the Play and Stay system used in Europe (except for Spain, their federation does not oficially support it). Play and Stay is the 2nd way to use the term mini tennis.

http://www.tennisplayandstay.com/site/

TCF check out the vote results in the no

you and i agree!!!!!!!

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7916

for different reasons

if you want U10 ranking you need to play green ball on full court, yours is reg, we both agree no points for orange on 60, they do have them in NE and I do not agree with that. if you want ranking points using orange/60 might as well be U8, but I do not see the point of this.

 

[seminoleG]

Pro, TCF:

Why not reward the Tennis Centers, Tourney Directors that adopt QS. Give them the Regulation 10s Tournaments based on the # of QS events they host.

USTA Section will produce an Endorsement list for 10s eligible to play these events.
Flat Rate charge for parents and USTA Subsidize a portion to the directors.

This way you continue to develop Regulation 10s, provide an incentive to continue QS events and ensure that the Tournaments for 10s have kids that are qualified (QS graduates?? other criteria??)

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

Thanks for the response but I think you misread my question. You described the same thing I already described; with more detail. My question was what organized 'program' is used for juniors in Europe?

Is mini tennis used loosely as a practice/training tool?

Or is it more like QuickStart with specific court dimensions, balls, and mandatory participation for specific age groups?

Yes, Play and Stay is similar to Quickstart in its equipment and court size mandates. However, many kids train with regulation balls, outside of the system, just like they do in the US.

So the answer is both. It is mandated by the governing bodies of junior tennis, yet is used as a loose training tool by other coaches. For example we will use low compression balls for a short time, then move kids into larger court areas and racquets as soon as their abilities allow. So some coaches do not stick to the mandates.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

TCF check out the vote results in the no

you and i agree!!!!!!!

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7916

for different reasons

if you want U10 ranking you need to play green ball on full court, yours is reg, we both agree no points for orange on 60, they do have them in NE and I do not agree with that. if you want ranking points using orange/60 might as well be U8, but I do not see the point of this.

I hear you. I waffle on the green ball for the 10s deal. As long as the court is full, I can live with the green balls.

Remember, I do not put much stock in 10-12s rankings for kids who are going for long term development. But I do realize some kids just want to have fun and compete and need 10-12s tournaments to stay interested in tennis.

 

[hound 109]

it doesnt matter to me.

me neither.