100+ mph TW club

Swissv2

Swissv2

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The premise of this club is simple: This club is for those who can consistently serve over 100 mph and can provide sufficient video proof. It is my belief that the majority of TW members should be able to break 100! If you cannot serve over 100 mph, DON'T WORRY, you will get great tips here.
  • Rules: Must be a TW member, must have adequate video proof.
  • Videos: Post your videos and we can determine the speed.
  • Disclaimer: like all advice on these forums, please take our tips as a helpful guide - not a rule - how to serve fast. Thanks.
Resources
Members
* either means one had formally released a video and it was taken offline or the person is a touring professional.
  1. Drakulie
  2. Tonlars
  3. AndresGuazzelli
  4. Moz
  5. Edberg505
  6. J011yroger*
  7. SydneyJim*
  8. Yours truly
  9. WBF
  10. CoachingMastery*
  11. ZPtennis*
  12. Will Hamilton
  13. CAM178
  14. nousername
  15. psYcon
Waiting list (need videos!)
  1. travlerajm
  2. OrangeOne
  3. Slapshot
How to join?

  1. Post a video. Vimeo is best, Yutube is ok. Keep videos in HD if possible
  2. Use the serve speed calculator.
  3. Those who wish to gradually increase their serve speed can read this thread for good advice.
  4. If you already can serve over 100, use this thread as a sounding board to get tips on advanced placement, spin, and speed techniques.
  5. A NEW website will be released soon. Look for it to be released sometime mid October. General tips, serve speed articles, video serve speed estimators, and more will be available on the site.
 
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^^If you can regularly hit 100+ MPH, you would be Regularly playing in the Futures or challenger level or Division 1 level tennis. Does all these players qualify to say that ???
 
Fedace said:
^^If you can regularly hit 100+ MPH, you would be Regularly playing in the Futures or challenger level or Division 1 level tennis. Does all these players qualify to say that ???
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i heard that some of the them coach and do play competitively. and the answer to your question would be no. the serve is only one dimension to the game.
 
Fedace said:
^^If you can regularly hit 100+ MPH, you would be Regularly playing in the Futures or challenger level or Division 1 level tennis. Does all these players qualify to say that ???
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Just because one can serve more than 100 mph consistently doesn't mean they are able to compete at the levels you suggest. Serves between 100-110, unless with good spin or placement, get destroyed at the Futures level. Only those who have first serves between 111-118, second serves with good placement (between 90-110) AND possess consistent strokes can even be a contender in Futures.
 
FYI that first serve you hit into the net was about 85 mph.

The second one you hit into the net was about 90.

Obviously it's a bit harder to calculate the ones that go in...lol (but I put the next after that at about the same speed)
 
Fedace said:
^^If you can regularly hit 100+ MPH, you would be Regularly playing in the Futures or challenger level or Division 1 level tennis. Does all these players qualify to say that ???
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That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've heard. Serving big has absolutely nothing to do with your level of play. I have come up against a lot of big servers in my time, and I knew that if I could get the serve back, it was an easy win, as their game was their serve. They had no other weapons. Anybody can tell you the number of matches they've seen or played in where they faced a big server and the big server got killed.

I've been serving at over 100 since I was about 15-16 yrs old. It's not that hard to do, if you've got good mechanics and torque into it right. I would say that if I'm playing a lot and healthy, I can hit close to 130. I rarely do it, though, as I would rather win with placement and spin versus damaging my shoulder.
 
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Fedace said:
^^If you can regularly hit 100+ MPH, you would be Regularly playing in the Futures or challenger level or Division 1 level tennis. Does all these players qualify to say that ???
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This is a VERY tennis-ignorant statement....
You should know better, than tennis is MORE than just a serve. I play regularly with a friend who is ALL SERVE, he definitely serves above 100 mph regularly when he's on. He also doublefaults a lot, and has no FH; Id say he's 3.5 at the most. When he's serving well Its sooo hard for me to break his serve...
 
There are a lot of 3.5 and 4.0 big tall guys who can serve at 100mph (though a small percentage of them). Doesn't mean they can play tennis well.
 
Nanshiki said:
FYI that first serve you hit into the net was about 85 mph.

The second one you hit into the net was about 90.

Obviously it's a bit harder to calculate the ones that go in...lol (but I put the next after that at about the same speed)
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First serve is over 85 mph. It is close to 98-100 mph.
You are right about the second serve.

You cannot judge serve speed accurately by a side video. If you saw Federer's serve from the side, you would probably guess it was only 95 mph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qsvD7tRB_0
 
haha, what the heck kind of thread is this? Why don't you just make one about everyone measuring the length of their you-know-what.

The "10+ incher club" ... :sarcasm:
 
jamauss said:
haha, what the heck kind of thread is this? Why don't you just make one about everyone measuring the length of their you-know-what.
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Its simple: there are plenty of posters that want to break the 100 mph mark, right? Here is a legitimate list of TWer's who can give tips how to break 100 mph, and even the 115 mph mark.
 
Swissv2,

You haven't responded to my last 2 emails (and it has been weeks).

Just wondering why you are not following through on our trade deal....
 
Hmmm...maybe I'll consider playing along...it would help I think if all the "coaches" and "experts" were willing to post some vids. There have been (are?) a bunch in this place who have been scamming for years.

I am curious, did all on your list post vids? It's hard to believe a person like Travlerajm (haven't read any posts of his since I've come back here...) who knows nothing about tennis (another "guru" scammer), can actually play!

I am also wondering, how many 4.0+ players have posted vids? Who are the best vid players?
 
bet said:
Hmmm...maybe I'll consider playing along...it would help I think if all the "coaches" and "experts" were willing to post some vids. There have been (are?) a bunch in this place who have been scamming for years.

I am curious, did all on your list post vids? It's hard to believe a person like Travlerajm (haven't read any posts of his since I've come back here...) who knows nothing about tennis (another "guru" scammer), can actually play!

I am also wondering, how many 4.0+ players have posted vids? Who are the best vid players?
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I am only mentioning those posters who I have seen vids for in the past or recently.
 
It depends on your definition of regularly I suppose. I doubt my first serve ever averages 100mph or more throughout a match! I have rarely had my serve measured - when I did I sneaked up to 103 for the flat ones, but no more.

Very disappointing actually!
 
Swissv2 said:
I am only mentioning those posters who I have seen vids for in the past or recently.
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Ok, so those people posted vids recently that seem to show 100+ mph serves?

Where is travlerajm's? Did a couple searches but didn't find anything. I'm quite curious to see.

Again, I'm wondering who you (or anybody else) was most impressed with, either in serving or in other aspects of the gem?
 
I've hit over 110 on radar, and pretty regularly heat them up over 100.

I'm not a big guy (5'10"-5'11"), and I'm still a lowly 4.0 level player, so how do I do it? Live arm and kinetic chain, baby.
 
insert facepalm
this forum is getting worse and worse because of stupid elitists that think they can bring their elitism to the board and wave their e-penis and 90in rackets
no offense to people with 90in just a comment about all the dumb threads about headsize
 
Hey OrangeOne, if you can serve 100mph I'm guessing I sit in this category too? Almost been a year since we hit and I highly suspect I've gotten worse...
 
Morning kids!

Ok, here's a definite speed estimator video for you guys: http://www.vimeo.com/1838452

Realize that the first person the server is hitting to is a teammate (so he lets loose a little bit), but the second person is a club member.

Try to estimate his serve speed from this calculator: http://www.donthireddy.us/tennis/speed.html

info: video shot at 29.97 fps
Serves to measure speed - at 30-0 or 40-15.
Distance - (you determine. Should be relatively easy calculating the hypotenuse!) hint: its around 62-63 feet.
Frames - (10 frames).
 
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More info:

Serves to measure speed - at 30-0 or 40-15.
Distance - (you determine. Should be relatively easy calculating the hypotenuse!)
Frames - (10 frames).
 
I was going to jump in and say 100 mph is a tough measuring stick, and I'm not sure if I'm in or not, but then I realized you were talking about serves, and not my forehand :)
 
Swissv2 said:
First serve is over 85 mph. It is close to 98-100 mph.
You are right about the second serve.

You cannot judge serve speed accurately by a side video. If you saw Federer's serve from the side, you would probably guess it was only 95 mph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qsvD7tRB_0
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Wasn't judging.

I was timing it and calculating the time.

FYI, a 100 MPH serve will cross the net in about .26 seconds. Those serves hit the net at about .30 seconds. Of course using a full-speed video is not idea, but I think until you get at the 130-140+ range, you can be reasonably accurate.
 
Great idea, Swiss.

Now posters will have to put up or shut up. :)

I suspect this list will be very, VERY short.
 
SlapShot said:
You probably have funnier war stories than me, but I've had many matches where I lost the match, only to have my opponent say "You were hitting huge out there." Gee....thanks, I guess.
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After 3:45 over 3 sets on clay, after losing my opponent's exact words were "Man. . . I didn't win, I survived."

I have nearly mastered every possible way that one could concievably lose a match, and everytime I think I have them all figured out, I find a new and different way of losing.

J
 
Nanshiki said:
100 MPH = 168.18 FPS

39 feet / 168.18 FPS = 0.23 seconds

Ok, I wrote the wrong number down. :p
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I get 100mph as 147fps actually (which would lead to roughly 0.265s assuming that 100mph is the horizontal component of the velocity of a serve down the line where the ball contacted above the baseline), but that's not where I'm disagreeing. The ball slows down significantly before reaching the net, as demonstrated by the link I've now added to my previous post (that only shows the speed coming into the bounce, but I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that a lot of the speed loss took place before it crossed the net).

I should have explained more earlier, but for some reason posted before looking for my source.
 
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nickb said:
SwissV:
None of your serves looked any where near 100....
IMO not even close to 80...
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Which video are you referring to? First or second.

How about this, Nickb.

Do a calculation off of this website: http://www.donthireddy.us/tennis/speed.html

Here's info for the second serve in the first video.
- Filmed at 29.97 fps
- Distance at 61 feet
- Frames at 12 frames

Once you do the calculation, let me know the average speed you calculated is.
I guarentee the serve speed is quite a bit over 80 mph.



Now if you are referring to the second video, and state that the 1st and 3rd serves are not over 100, then you must be crazy :)
 
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tennisdad65 said:
that seems like way too much of a slowdown. I guess the 60 feet counts the bounce? It must slow down a lot more after the bounce.
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60 feet is approximately from racketface to the bounce (in most cases), unless a person serves out wide. You will see the calculations for the serves in the video are around 61-63 feet.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ra7XWGMt4

Can serve a bit harder now (1 partial off season lifting with a few breaks, starting another now without breaks).

Fedace makes a stupid assertion. News at 11.

On the topic of serving hard... It's not that important. Placement (including variation) and spin are far more important IMHO. I have no problem returning serves as big as mine when they are usually in the same area, or when the server can't put them out of reach. I have trouble with servers who can place it with great angles but little pace, or with big spin.
 
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