18x20 Wilson Shift prototype
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Blade_X
Professional
My experience with confidential 1.20 was not bad but worse than tour byte soft. Confidential is more muted and for some reason at most frames i ve used it, it can launch the ball on flat shots. It’s "very poppy" and needs a full cut to make it work…. I wouldn’t suggest it if you are pushing for example. Still it excelled on serves, power and spin. At the end of the day tour byte soft gives me more dwell time so more control. The testing continues!
Blade_X
Professional
@alexsoin also to add i hate that Wilson pro cushion base grip. I have issues holding the racquet. In many occasions it’s slipping out of my hand because i don’t feel like i am holding it naturally and with all of my palm surface. That pronounced bevels create gaps between the grip and my palm. It also makes the grip thicker. So i am not even utilising my pro at its highest potential. I am gonna re-wrap it with sublime which is more soft and plush.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I had to redo mine too because stock grip just made 4 3/8 way too thick imo, coming from Babolats and Yonexes. I liked the way it was wrapped though with extra cover of the buttcap, also extra cushioning was nice. I probably will go with 4 1/4 grip for my future Wilson frames so I don't have to alter stock at all. I wasn't able to wrap my Tourna Pro Thins exact same way. Having thick OG (some ADV Dry FeltTac Ultra) on top of skinny Pro Thin replacement grip is a great combo imo.
I got my strings today and will string them tomorrow. As you said it has started to be selled as wasabi pro. In description it says wasabi produced for mains and wasabi x is produced for crosses. I will string them exactly as you said but in the Nadal version we used wasabi x for mains. Is there any change there or are we good to go. Thanks.Glad to see that other folks starting to like Wasabi Pro (which is Wasabi/Wasabi X)
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Should be all good, amigo. Going reverse on Nadal racket is just to tone it down in terms on power and spin, to make it closer to Shift Pro. Can be also achieved by stringing with higher tensions but better for your elbows and wrists just to reverse the hybrid and don’t go over 55lbs.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I'm glad it worked out for you. YMMV obviously but Wasabi Pro hybrid works great for me until it snaps. And in my case it takes 20+h of hitting/playing, thanks to Toroline for making strings with insane snapback and for dense 18x20 pattern of Shift Pro.
BTW, I don't know why Wasabi in particular being compared to Hyper G a lot apart from it's color and probably because of players tried the latter. Solinco released Hyper G 10+ years ago and it exploded the market but haven't changed since I don't count making Hyper G Soft (more of meh kinda string with 0 tension maintenance) and various gauges.
The new strings (last couple years) from Toroline, Restring 0 and Grapplesnake are another level due to the change of materials, their slick coatings, crazy snap, great tension maintenance. I see a bunch of folks switching to Grapple's Tour Sniper as it's a pre-stretched poly, maybe the only one on a market. This is not critical for me as I'm a stringer and always do 10% pre-stretch on any string to be used in my rackets.
I'm not sure if I'm going to try other Torolines, Restring 0 and Grapple since Wasabi Pro is just working greatly for me. Maybe if I need more durable say 40h+ option, there's Toroline's smooth slick poly Enso Pro in 1.25mm as opposed to Wasabi's square profile 1.23mm. Either to put Enso Pro full bed or couple with Wasabi X in crosses, could be a longer lasting combo than Wasabi Pro. Maybe something to try later, it could have different playability though.
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Fintft
G.O.A.T.
I stand by my mushy, yet controlled, Mayami poly poly hybrid, Big Spin mains and Tour Hex crosses at 47/44, b/c as @galapagos put it, "it inspires confidence to take full hits at the ball".
Unlike @alexsoin, mine doesn't snap, but I better cut it after max 40h (and that's way pushing it past the 20h mark in singles. Some people cutting poly after 10-15h), even if the great tension maintainance Tour Hex has.
Unlike @alexsoin, mine doesn't snap, but I better cut it after max 40h (and that's way pushing it past the 20h mark in singles. Some people cutting poly after 10-15h), even if the great tension maintainance Tour Hex has.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
I have a reel of Big Spin, but not Tour Hex. What would be a good substitute for the Tour Hex?
Scratch that, just checked, Mayami Hit Pro lol
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
Maybe, as I have yet to try Hitt Pro as a cross. I've used it full bed though and although good, is not as great as the hybrid in my sig (that we are talking about).
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Sorry, I meant that I have a reel of Hit Pro and not Big Spin lol.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
Well don't hybrid Hit Pro with Tour Hex as each of them are good by their own in full beds. I wouldn't hybrid them.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I used to cut my polys too after 10h or so, sometimes even less than that. Ones with greater tens maintenance (like Tourna Silver 7 Pro) maybe 15h. And I talk about 90% single matches or singles practice hitting, doubles is not my thing, play 'em very seldom.
That's the thing about newer gen strings, you don't have to cut them i.e. playing great until they break. And I believe Torolines are not the only option.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I hope Wilson makes Noir version of Wilson Shift Pro by autumn time/US Open. I want a third (and differently looking) frame in my collection. I afraid we’ll see only Shift 99 in Noir or maybe Shifts won’t even get such treatment…
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There’s a shift 99 “soir” for the French. Deep navy blue I believe. Sadly not the pro.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I couldn't find that Roland Garros Shift but generally the color schemes from Wilson's French Open are usually a mehhh. There's some Blades, Ultras, Clashes like below https://images.app.goo.gl/k1Kv6thyTEuF6mBR7
It's in the version of the catalog that I have for 2024. The ones you linked are from 2023.
MarTennis
Semi-Pro
FYI - D1 son play testing 315 at a money tournament. Tourbite at 52. Mods: leather grip, tourna overgrip, 7-8 inches lead at 3 and 9. Yes seeing the lead was shocking. He swung it like a champ. 6-2, 7-6. Yes, he was late a few shots. Everything went over the net except a few flat serves. One double fault. I’m pretty sure he gonna make the switch. I think that racket weighs 359 g.
MarTennis
Semi-Pro
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Triax in the crosses
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
That’s a beast of a stick, any feedback on how well the shift took on the weight? I‘ve heard from A few people it can be sensitive to modification and that it doesn’t always work out as well as a blade would for example
MarTennis
Semi-Pro
Yes. He lost in quarters to 12.67 UTR. Double faults crept in on flat serves. Definitely a sluggishness/need to get better circumstance. Spun some balls into the net when it looked like he was trying to hit the ball flat. Need serious early preparation on backhand. As you can tell, I’m blaming the player and not the racket. But the racket does produce Circumstances that need to be addressed if you’re gonna use it. He seems to like it a lot. We both started calling it the switch cause I think he’s gonna Shift.
MarTennis
Semi-Pro
I think the additional flex in the racket makes flat shots flatter so to speak. Probably don’t need to cover the ball at all and extend fully. Pure observation of my kid.
