1936 wembley

[Ivan69]

Are you sure Bowers wrote Aug 11-15?
I’m positive he wrote different, but he was wrong. It was played 14-15.
Two days tournaments.

Also, I don’t understand the part about playing with mark. I asked if he has access to l’Equipe archive because I’m looking for some results of the 50s.
L’Equipe was founded in 1946!
How could I have sources from 1937???
I don’t have fake sources like you.

Wake up Ivan

Yep. Pretty sure. Fake sources? Here they are but fake only in your mind:
"The cast also played at Touquet on August 12-15." (R. Bowers, year 1937).

Mark's research also fake? Well, I believe him. He made good efforts and found it with all good intentions. Until now I don't have a reason not to believe to Mark and the magazine.

So, yeah, it could have been played on 14th and 15th but in August not in July. By the way 14th and 15th August were Saturday and Sunday, perfect timing for tennis (eventually).

And the sources are not mine. You just need to search and read. I don't pretend about a copyright of the info unlike you.

Oh, in the post about Touquet you are meaning other not related stuff (L'Equipe) !?!?! Good, maybe a matter of an appropriate expression !!!

 

[NoMercy]

Yep. Pretty sure. Fake sources? Here they are but fake only in your mind:
"The cast also played at Touquet on August 12-15." (R. Bowers, year 1937).

Mark's research also fake? Well, I believe him. He made good efforts and found it with all good intentions. Until now I don't have a reason not to believe to Mark and the magazine.

So, yeah, it could have been played on 14th and 15th but in August not in July. By the way 14th and 15th August were Saturday and Sunday, perfect timing for tennis (eventually).

And the sources are not mine. You just need to search and read. I don't pretend about a copyright of the info unlike you.

Oh, in the post about Touquet you are meaning other not related stuff (L'Equipe) !?!?! Good, maybe a matter of an appropriate expression !!!

You are hopeless Ivan.
You should really not speak about tennis with me. Go and talk with somebody of your level please.

 

[Ivan69]

You are hopeless Ivan.
You should really not speak about tennis with me. Go and talk with somebody of your level please.

Oh, I know, the facts hurt sometimes.
Your level? No comments. I see it. You can easily ignore the researches of Mark and Ray Bowers. And only your opinion is valid. Well, not always.
I definitely will read your posts. I can put likes or disagreements, it depends on the factuality.

 

[Ivan69]

doubled

 

[newmark401]

Let's try to keep things professional and objective. The dates of August 12-15, 1937, for the Le Touquet tournament were provided by Pro tennis historian in post no. 27 above. As I stated above, 'Tennis et Golf' doesn't give any dates for the tournament in question.
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I live in London and don't have access to the archives of L'Équipe. I know that one place the microfilmed archive is available is the Bibliothèque publique d'information (Bpi), the Public Information Library in the Pompidou Centre in Paris.

I do have library access to things like 'Der Tennissport', 'Il Tennis Italiano', 'World Tennis', etc., so if you want to add a list here, with place and dates, I'll see if I can find any rare results.

 

[NoMercy]

Let's try to keep things professional and objective. The dates of August 12-15, 1937, for the Le Touquet tournament were provided by Pro tennis historian in post no. 27 above. As I stated above, 'Tennis et Golf' doesn't give any dates for the tournament in question.
--

I live in London and don't have access to the archives of L'Équipe. I know that one place the microfilmed archive is available is the Bibliothèque publique d'information (Bpi), the Public Information Library in the Pompidou Centre in Paris.

I do have library access to things like 'Der Tennissport', 'Il Tennis Italiano', 'World Tennis', etc., so if you want to add a list here, with place and dates, I'll see if I can find any rare results.

I’m positive Pro Tennis Historian got the dates from Bowers. As I stated before, it was a two days tournament, played 14-15 Aug.
And the results on Tennis et Golf are Day2 results. Day1 results are above.
There was no intention of controversy in my post. Problem is Ivan that always fills threads with his garbage posts.
But I have him in ignore now, so I will save my time and not add spam to his continuous trash.

I know l’Equipe is held at Bpi, I was hoping you were French

And thanks, I have access to all those sources, so I don’t need anything from there I guess

 

[NoMercy]

Let's try to keep things professional and objective. The dates of August 12-15, 1937, for the Le Touquet tournament were provided by Pro tennis historian in post no. 27 above. As I stated above, 'Tennis et Golf' doesn't give any dates for the tournament in question.
--

I live in London and don't have access to the archives of L'Équipe. I know that one place the microfilmed archive is available is the Bibliothèque publique d'information (Bpi), the Public Information Library in the Pompidou Centre in Paris.

I do have library access to things like 'Der Tennissport', 'Il Tennis Italiano', 'World Tennis', etc., so if you want to add a list here, with place and dates, I'll see if I can find any rare results.

But if in the future you plan to visit Brighton, there is a library there (The Keep) that held many useful information regarding some pro events

 

[Pro tennis historian]

So, at the end of last week I was able to have a look 'Tennis et Golf'. In the edition published on September 1, 1937, in the Our Tournaments section, there is the shortest of paragraphs about the proessional tournament that had been held in Le Touquet during the second week of August.

This paragraph states:

"In brilliant form, Robert Ramillon won the Professional Championships of the Opal Coast (les Championnats profesionnels de la Côte Opale). He beat Bill Tilden, 6-4, 6-3, 6-1, Lester Stoefen and Martin Plaa. Plaa was also beaten by Stoefen, 4-6, 4-6, 8-6, 7-5, 6-4. Tilden and Stoefen won the doubles by beating Plaa and Ramillon, 5-7, 6-1, 6-3, 6-4."

And that's it -- no other results, no indication of rounds, no days or dates, no first names (I've added those)...

Mark

Thanks Mark. Much appreciated.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

I’m positive Pro Tennis Historian got the dates from Bowers. As I stated before, it was a two days tournament, played 14-15 Aug.
And the results on Tennis et Golf are Day2 results. Day1 results are above.
There was no intention of controversy in my post. Problem is Ivan that always fills threads with his garbage posts.
But I have him in ignore now, so I will save my time and not add spam to his continuous trash.

I know l’Equipe is held at Bpi, I was hoping you were French

And thanks, I have access to all those sources, so I don’t need anything from there I guess

You are right. I did get the dates from Bowers, NoMercy. It is a useful guide for rough dates of events.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

Yep. Pretty sure. Fake sources? Here they are but fake only in your mind:
"The cast also played at Touquet on August 12-15." (R. Bowers, year 1937).

Mark's research also fake? Well, I believe him. He made good efforts and found it with all good intentions. Until now I don't have a reason not to believe to Mark and the magazine.

So, yeah, it could have been played on 14th and 15th but in August not in July. By the way 14th and 15th August were Saturday and Sunday, perfect timing for tennis (eventually).

And the sources are not mine. You just need to search and read. I don't pretend about a copyright of the info unlike you.

Oh, in the post about Touquet you are meaning other not related stuff (L'Equipe) !?!?! Good, maybe a matter of an appropriate expression !!!

At no stage did NoMercy or anyone else say Mark's research was fake. The only debate was over the dates. I take NoMercy's judgement over Bowers. Bowers is a good source but there are mistakes on the tennisserver website (like who is Don Maskell?!) I am grateful for both NoMercy's and Mark's posts on Le Touquet. Thank you both.

 

[NoMercy]

At no stage did NoMercy or anyone else say Mark's research was fake. The only debate was over the dates. I take NoMercy's judgement over Bowers. Bowers is a good source but there are mistakes on the tennisserver website (like who is Don Maskell?!) I am grateful for both NoMercy's and Mark's posts on Le Touquet. Thank you both.

Hehe.
In fact when I wrote about fake sources, I was referring to Ivan’s ones. Like the Belgian Pro 1970.

 

[Ivan69]

Let's try to keep things professional and objective. The dates of August 12-15, 1937, for the Le Touquet tournament were provided by Pro tennis historian in post no. 27 above. As I stated above, 'Tennis et Golf' doesn't give any dates for the tournament in question.
--

I live in London and don't have access to the archives of L'Équipe. I know that one place the microfilmed archive is available is the Bibliothèque publique d'information (Bpi), the Public Information Library in the Pompidou Centre in Paris.

I do have library access to things like 'Der Tennissport', 'Il Tennis Italiano', 'World Tennis', etc., so if you want to add a list here, with place and dates, I'll see if I can find any rare results.

Fully agree that the things should be kept professional and objective.
One remark - the dates of August 12-15, 1937 for the Le Touquet tournament are known since maybe more than 10 years from the articles of Ray Bowers. Here is one of them http://www.tennisserver.com/lines/lines_04_12_03.html. The scores were missing.

Other tournaments I am interested on are:
1936 World Pro Champs, held somewhere between Aug 10 and 18 in Paris
1937 Deauville Pro, per Bowers "Stoefen won the final at Deauville on July 25 over Plaa, who had beaten Tilden."
1938 Belgian Pro, held in Brussels Oct 21-23; the players were Nüsslein, Richards, Ramillon and Tilden; Nüsslein won the event
1941 St Louis, held probably Aug 1-3; the players were Perry, Kozeluh, Tilden and Richards;

 

[Ivan69]

As I stated before, it was a two days tournament, played 14-15 Aug.

There was no intention of controversy in my post. Problem is Ivan that always fills threads with his garbage posts.

Wow, Ivan is the problem who showed your mistake. Let's take a look at your posts 47 and 49.

Le Touquet 1937 was played 14-15 jul.

Are you sure Bowers wrote Aug 11-15?
I’m positive he wrote different, but he was wrong. It was played 14-15.

No controversy in your posts ??? Wow. What a hypocrisy! Just you needed to admit you were wrong about the month. Nothing else.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

Fully agree that the things should be kept professional and objective.
One remark - the dates of August 12-15, 1937 for the Le Touquet tournament are known since maybe more than 10 years from the articles of Ray Bowers. Here is one of them http://www.tennisserver.com/lines/lines_04_12_03.html. The scores were missing.

Other tournaments I am interested on are:
1936 World Pro Champs, held somewhere between Aug 10 and 18 in Paris
1937 Deauville Pro, per Bowers "Stoefen won the final at Deauville on July 25 over Plaa, who had beaten Tilden."
1938 Belgian Pro, held in Brussels Oct 21-23; the players were Nüsslein, Richards, Ramillon and Tilden; Nüsslein won the event
1941 St Louis, held probably Aug 1-3; the players were Perry, Kozeluh, Tilden and Richards;

French Pro 1936 I have full results of. I have full results of Deauville 1937 and Brussels pro and St. Louis too. They will all be published in my book. As stated in my other post, Bowers is a good guide but there are errors in his History of Pro tennis articles, so if NoMercy said it was a 2 day event, I will take his word for it. McCauley is often wrong or vague about dates of events.

 

[Ivan69]

At no stage did NoMercy or anyone else say Mark's research was fake. The only debate was over the dates. I take NoMercy's judgement over Bowers. Bowers is a good source but there are mistakes on the tennisserver website (like who is Don Maskell?!) I am grateful for both NoMercy's and Mark's posts on Le Touquet. Thank you both.

Really ??? NM didn't say Mark's research was fake at no stage !?!?!? Let's take a look at the passage in the post 49 after I mentioned 2 sources: Mark's research and Bowers' research.

I don’t have fake sources like you.

Remember from me. The blind support to somebody could involve you in much more confusions.

You can take NM's judgement. I take the truth backed up with facts and arguments.

First, the man is called Dan Maskell not Don. Second, the fact that you don't know about him is not a mistake of Ray having written about the guy. A mistake is that a tennis historian should know about that. Shortly, Maskell was a British pro player having played in the 20s, 30s, 40s but very occasionally and predominantly in weak pro events in Europe. He had also some appearances at Southport and Wembley. He tried to act also as a tennis coach.

 

[Ivan69]

French Pro 1936 I have full results of. I have full results of Deauville 1937 and Brussels pro and I think I have St. Louis too (I am away from home at present so don't have my data to hand). They will all be published in my book. As stated in my other post, Bowers is a good guide but there are errors in his History of Pro tennis articles, so if NoMercy said it was a 2 day event, I will take his word for it. McCauley is often wrong or vague about dates of events.

Well, very interesting.
FYI French pro 1936 had NOTHING to do with World pro 1936.
FYI Brussels pro 1938 had NOTHING to do with the Belgian pro 1938.
I don't know what a book it will be. I hope it wont be a parody. Anyway, I wont buy it.

 

[Ivan69]

As stated in my other post, Bowers is a good guide but there are errors in his History of Pro tennis articles, so if NoMercy said it was a 2 day event, I will take his word for it. McCauley is often wrong or vague about dates of events.

Hey, please read carefully. I haven't argued about the number of days of the event. I have argued that the event was held somewhere in the second week of August as per Bowers and Mark, not on July 14-15 as NM stated.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

Really ??? NM didn't say Mark's research was fake at no stage !?!?!? Let's take a look at the passage in the post 49 after I mentioned 2 sources: Mark's research and Bowers' research.

Remember from me. The blind support to somebody could involve you in much more confusions.

You can take NM's judgement. I take the truth backed up with facts and arguments.

First, the man is called Dan Maskell not Don. Second, the fact that you don't know about him is not a mistake of Ray having written about the guy. A mistake is that a tennis historian should know about that. Shortly, Maskell was a British pro player having played in the 20s, 30s, 40s but very occasionally and predominantly in weak pro events in Europe. He had also some appearances at Southport and Wembley. He tried to act also as a tennis coach.

You have a major issue understanding simple information. You completely misinterpreted my comments on "Don" Maskell (as Bowers calls him). I know DAN Maskell very well (and grew up listening to his BBC TV commentaries) but there is no Don Maskell. And you accuse me of blind loyalty to NoMercy, but it is you who has blind loyalty to Bowers. So far I have no reason to doubt NoMercy's accuracy, whereas there are errors in Bowers (though a lot less than McCauley). My book, which you seem so keen to mock, will be accurate, unlike much of McCauley's. Just a piece of advice. Rather than spending your time making snide remarks to other forum members who know a lot more about pro tennis than you, put your listening ears on and try learning. Because every post I see from you is stirring up conflict and spreading inaccurate information. If you haven't anything sensible to say, then keep quiet!

 

[newmark401]

Just to clarify again, the dates of August 12-15, 1937, were provided by Pro tennis historian after I asked when the Le Touquet tournament of that year took place so that I could look it up in 'Tennis et Golf', which I subsequently did. I'm not familiar with the work of Ray Bowers.

Hey, please read carefully. I haven't argued about the number of days of the event. I have argued that the event was held somewhere in the second week of August as per Bowers and Mark, not on July 14-15 as NM stated.

 

[Ivan69]

You have a major issue understanding simple information. You completely misinterpreted my comments on "Don" Maskell (as Bowers calls him). I know DAN Maskell very well (and grew up listening to his BBC TV commentaries) but there is no Don Maskell.

You proved again that you neither read the posts properly nor you read the articles of Ray Bowers properly. Let's see how you can't read and understand information:

"Perry practiced with British coach Dan Maskell at Queen's Club. Having not seen Fred in nearly a year." (Ray Bowers, 1937)
"across the channel at Eastbourne, Dan Maskell relinquished his British pro championship after a nine-year run, losing to T.C. Jeffery in a match lasting over three hours." (Ray Bowers, 1937)
"Dan Maskell again won the British Pro, held at Eastbourne in August." (Ray Bowers, 1936)
"Dan Maskell won the Professional Championships of Britain for the eighth time ..." (Ray Bowers, 1935)
"In a mild surprise, Dan Maskell defeated Robert Ramillon in straight sets." (Ray Bowers, 1935)

Big shame for you for blaming incorrectly Ray Bowers. And you pretend to read properly. BIG SHAME for a pseudo historian!

And you accuse me of blind loyalty to NoMercy, but it is you who has blind loyalty to Bowers. So far I have no reason to doubt NoMercy's accuracy, whereas there are errors in Bowers (though a lot less than McCauley). My book, which you seem so keen to mock, will be accurate, unlike much of McCauley's. Just a piece of advice. Rather than spending your time making snide remarks to other forum members who know a lot more about pro tennis than you, put your listening ears on and try learning. Because every post I see from you is stirring up conflict and spreading inaccurate information. If you haven't anything sensible to say, then keep quiet!

Ha-ha-ha! My blind loyalty to Bowers !?!?! I would be very glad to know this guy and discuss issues with him but I don't know him.

You still can't understand the principles of reading and analysing the history (any history, not only tennis history). One of the basic principles I am approaching is the confirmation and double confirmation of facts, proves, sources where and if possible.

Regarding Le Touquet I had the articles of Bowers who gives only a bleak info about the possible period of the event. For sure this info can't be perceived as 100% correct when no other details of the event are presented.
Then the research of Mark came from a reliable source that combined with the Bowers' data confirmed that the event was held somewhere in the second week of August. NOT IN JULY !!!

And please remember - the most important issue is that we should deal with correct info about the history (maximum possibly).
It's not important if the relations between posters are good or bad.
It's not important that NM is angry when caught wrong.
It's not important that he takes the issues personally. No, everybody should seek after the correct info but not for feeding the ego.
It's not important and I don't care if you blindly support NM. A real tennis researcher should check the available info and always try to find a confirmation for that. No matter if an info could not coincide with another info.

Another fresh example for your research confusions - you refused to accept that there was no US pro since 1952. Right? You keep to trust to the widely known version. But it was your friend who discovered the excellent info about the non-US pro. And his info was pretty enough and good and I accepted it. Shocking info but the correct info.

Have a good evening!

 

[Pro tennis historian]

Just to clarify again, the dates of August 12-15, 1937, were provided by Pro tennis historian after I asked when the Le Touquet tournament of that year took place so that I could look it up in 'Tennis et Golf', which I subsequently did. I'm not familiar with the work of Ray Bowers.

Yes, unfortunately, with Ivan it is necessary to clarify and re-clarify absolutely everything, because he seems to misunderstand everything. And he is so rude with it. This conversation was supposed to be about results of pro tournaments, but because Ivan has intervened you, myself and NoMercy have all clarified our points. And Ivan still doesn't understand. He will just have to remain in ignorance. I will just re-itirate my thanks to you and NoMercy for your assistance on Le Touquet. Much appreciated.

 

[Ivan69]

Just to clarify again, the dates of August 12-15, 1937, were provided by Pro tennis historian after I asked when the Le Touquet tournament of that year took place so that I could look it up in 'Tennis et Golf', which I subsequently did. I'm not familiar with the work of Ray Bowers.

Of course you can clarify what you want. I just fixed you that this info exists since more than 10 years ago. Maybe it's new for you but it's pretty old. So "provided" it is not, just copied from Bowers.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

You proved again that you neither read the posts properly nor you read the articles of Ray Bowers properly. Let's see how you can't read and understand information:

"Perry practiced with British coach Dan Maskell at Queen's Club. Having not seen Fred in nearly a year." (Ray Bowers, 1937)
"across the channel at Eastbourne, Dan Maskell relinquished his British pro championship after a nine-year run, losing to T.C. Jeffery in a match lasting over three hours." (Ray Bowers, 1937)
"Dan Maskell again won the British Pro, held at Eastbourne in August." (Ray Bowers, 1936)
"Dan Maskell won the Professional Championships of Britain for the eighth time ..." (Ray Bowers, 1935)
"In a mild surprise, Dan Maskell defeated Robert Ramillon in straight sets." (Ray Bowers, 1935)

Big shame for you for blaming incorrectly Ray Bowers. And you pretend to read properly. BIG SHAME for a pseudo historian!

Ha-ha-ha! My blind loyalty to Bowers !?!?! I would be very glad to know this guy and discuss issues with him but I don't know him.

You still can't understand the principles of reading and analysing the history (any history, not only tennis history). One of the basic principles I am approaching is the confirmation and double confirmation of facts, proves, sources where and if possible.

Regarding Le Touquet I had the articles of Bowers who gives only a bleak info about the possible period of the event. For sure this info can't be perceived as 100% correct when no other details of the event are presented.
Then the research of Mark came from a reliable source that combined with the Bowers' data confirmed that the event was held somewhere in the second week of August. NOT IN JULY !!!

And please remember - the most important issue is that we should deal with correct info about the history (maximum possibly).
It's not important if the relations between posters are good or bad.
It's not important that NM is angry when caught wrong.
It's not important that he takes the issues personally. No, everybody should seek after the correct info but not for feeding the ego.
It's not important and I don't care if you blindly support NM. A real tennis researcher should check the available info and always try to find a confirmation for that. No matter if an info could not coincide with another info.

Another fresh example for your research confusions - you refused to accept that there was no US pro since 1952. Right? You keep to trust to the widely known version. But it was your friend who discovered the excellent info about the non-US pro. And his info was pretty enough and good and I accepted it. Shocking info but the correct info.

Have a good evening!

"Read lost in the final to a younger Queen's pro, Don Maskell" One of many times in the early articles Bowers refers to him as Don Maskell. The later ones he becomes Dan, but Bowers never corrected the earlier ones. And frankly, the fact he ever thought his name was Don makes me question his knowledge, as Maskell was a famous tennis figure.

How dare you infer I don't trust Mark's information!!!

Yes, the most important thing is ACCURACY!!!! Which is why I have reached the end of my tether with your inaccuracies. I have no blind loyalty to anyone. I only seek the truth. And if you don't want to read my book when it's finished, GOOD! You won't be able to tell lies about what is in it!

 

[Ivan69]

Yes, unfortunately, with Ivan it is necessary to clarify and re-clarify absolutely everything, because he seems to misunderstand everything. And he is so rude with it. This conversation was supposed to be about results of pro tournaments, but because Ivan has intervened you, myself and NoMercy have all clarified our points. And Ivan still doesn't understand. He will just have to remain in ignorance. I will just re-itirate my thanks to you and NoMercy for your assistance on Le Touquet. Much appreciated.

Not only this conversation but all conversations in the forum suppose to be about a correct info. You still don't admit that NM's info about the dates was incorrect. Shame.

 

[Ivan69]

"Read lost in the final to a younger Queen's pro, Don Maskell" One of many times in the early articles Bowers refers to him as Don Maskell. The later ones he becomes Dan, but Bowers never corrected the earlier ones. And frankly, the fact he ever thought his name was Don makes me question his knowledge, as Maskell was a famous tennis figure.

How dare you infer I don't trust Mark's information!!!

Yes, the most important thing is ACCURACY!!!! Which is why I have reached the end of my tether with your inaccuracies. I have no blind loyalty to anyone. I only seek the truth. And if you don't want to read my book when it's finished, GOOD! You won't be able to tell lies about what is in it!

Again the usual arrogant explanations. BIG SHAME for you again for not respecting one of the good researchers of tennis history. But how can I expect a respect from such "knowledgeable" people?

You didn't respond. Do you consider the Cleveland event after 1952 as US pro?

 

[NoMercy]

"Read lost in the final to a younger Queen's pro, Don Maskell" One of many times in the early articles Bowers refers to him as Don Maskell. The later ones he becomes Dan, but Bowers never corrected the earlier ones. And frankly, the fact he ever thought his name was Don makes me question his knowledge, as Maskell was a famous tennis figure.

How dare you infer I don't trust Mark's information!!!

Yes, the most important thing is ACCURACY!!!! Which is why I have reached the end of my tether with your inaccuracies. I have no blind loyalty to anyone. I only seek the truth. And if you don't want to read my book when it's finished, GOOD! You won't be able to tell lies about what is in it!

I followed the good advice coming from other posters: put Ivan on ignore.
It’s actually a very good advice, saving me lots of garbage posts from him. Problem is I still see other people replying to him
I would suggest you to follow the same advice. He is hopeless, he never brings anything to the table, just vulturing other people’s research, without even understand them.
Just my two cents.

Here is the article of first day in Le Touquet, so you can keep it in your archive, if you want.

 

[Ivan69]

I followed the good advice coming from other posters: put Ivan on ignore.
It’s actually a very good advice, saving me lots of garbage posts from him. Problem is I still see other people replying to him
I would suggest you to follow the same advice. He is hopeless, he never brings anything to the table, just vulturing other people’s research, without even understand them.
Just my two cents.

Here is the article of first day in Le Touquet, so you can keep it in your archive, if you want.

Well, again Ivan is your problem when your article says Aug 14 but you have written July in the post !!!
Anyway, I wanted to be constructive to clear the issue. And the issue has been cleared.

 

[Pro tennis historian]

I followed the good advice coming from other posters: put Ivan on ignore.
It’s actually a very good advice, saving me lots of garbage posts from him. Problem is I still see other people replying to him
I would suggest you to follow the same advice. He is hopeless, he never brings anything to the table, just vulturing other people’s research, without even understand them.
Just my two cents.

Here is the article of first day in Le Touquet, so you can keep it in your archive, if you want.

Yes I have put Ivan on ignore. I am wasting time dealing with his rudeness and troublemaking. Thanks for the article.

 

[Idzznew]

I have Tennis et golf articles about smaller events (e.g., 1936 La Baule), and a lot of articles in general from many publications. If anyone would like copies just send me your email. I can post articles here for a few events but to do that I have to upload them somewhere first and get the code to display them here, etc.; email would be easier if we're talking about sharing many articles.

Very interested!