So OP, if you're not going to respond, like I said, I will because that was insane. I can't believe I was enjoying reading this topic. Even the disagreements. Then I had to run into
@Dolgopolov85 and his rebuttal above.
Sir, you got me to finally stop lurking on these parts. That's first-class, alright. Did you seriously just compare Martina Hingis and Steffi Graf's actions to Hitler and Churchill? I can't believe someone hasn't given you 'the talking to'. After this reply, I doubt you'll reply back, and that's good. I don't care what you feel about Hingis and Graf, and you can hate one and love the other till the world freezes over.
Not the point: I don't think you've ever had any real life presence to be commenting on this discussion, to any extent.
In the first place, you're massively exposing yourself with these 'bias' claims. She didn't KNOW where the damned mark was, he told you. Graf DID because she both LOOKED AT
AND HIT THE BALL. When Hingis had the chance to call a shot out before the umpire scouted?
She did. I just re-watched this very match to make sure. It's a sad day when a little kid, still going through puberty, has more refinement than a grown woman who's petty thieving to snag Grand Slam points like CVS coupons. You're a Graf fan, so you're of course going to shield Graf and blame the umpire.
Here's the kicker: The umpire already called Hingis after the match and apologized for screwing her over, and Hingis forgave her. Did that change anything to you folks? No. So, you know who should've apologized? Graf, for hiding behind the umpire. No integrity whatsoever when she's getting pasted.
I'll keep it sincere with you too: Hingis was not trying in that first set. She was pulling a USO '97 final and got too cute, making it 6-4. If she were struggling from the start and she was barely holding a lead- this chaos wouldn't have happened. We're well aware that the Graf of old would've handed this injured Hingis a loss. Hingis stated she was just finding her mojo the start of that year after her '98 slump. But this Graf had movement issues. Then confidence issues, that led to Hingis' getting as cocky as she did. In a neutral zone, without the Graf-worshipping crowd, Hingis was the hilariously-better player that day, and it wasn't even close. I remember it being said online. Even the people in the locker room and reception area said that Hingis was better. Graf raised her level from poor to average with crowd support, and the negative atmosphere made Hingis completely tank. Before that, most of her lost points came from mucking around to torture Graf instead of putting Graf away. She did the same thing to ASV in the prior Wimbledon, wanting to beat her foe at their own game instead of just playing her attacking game and getting it over with. She did it with Lindsay in the slams in '97 before Lindsay got fitter. It was her thing. Stupid, but that showed a difference in ability you somehow aren't noticing.
But that's not here: We all know the ice queen who couldn't even call Seles
one single time after the stabbing she caused by consecutively losing, couldn't possibly have the humility to tell a 19 year old, "Sorry for not speaking up back there."
You read that AMAZINGLY wrong! Unbelievable!! He corrected you, sir, because you got the rationale about why the events happened completely mixed up. She didn't just cross the net because she 'wanted' to. She
tried to tell the umpire where the mark was, and the umpire loosely said, "I saw nothing. We see a mark that looks out, but the first call's what I'm gonna go with in case." So, she walked away while Hingis tried to call her back in shock. As if the world were gonna end if they didn't resume that minute. The dude narrated it pretty right, son. Try listening instead of proving you weren't there and never looked at the damn match.
The umpire, she did not have to ignore Hingis like this, and she was just being a jerk in the moment. Everyone BUT the clowns in the stands saw how Hingis was getting screwed. Don't think you can weasel out the 'But excuse-' card because he proved you weren't there at the time and conducted insufficient research after the deal. I'm not about to speculate on your age, but you most definitely haven't seen that match for one reason or another, or you saw it once long ago and don't want to ruin the pseudo-Graf nostalgia you created in your head. Just go back and take an objective look if it's the second one.
Irony all over. You're not even getting what a 'goalposts' is. Who was the one who brought up Mauresmo? I'll go out on a limb and say that was you. What on Earth and in Hell does Mauresmo have to do with Graf not calling a ball in because she's a cheater? Were you trying to say that's why the French crowd booed her? Because it wasn't, Hingis said it wasn't, and he explained why it wasn't.
I'm presuming you're as old as you say you are. Treat this as a reminder if you just...forgot somewhere down the line: Aside from other, random booings she got in that RG, Hingis was booed
twice before this match when she played Mauresmo. One of those sorry booings was indoors, and she still almost won it so they heckled her louder to break her down in 3 sets. The reports from that match, I've got saved- you couldn't hear
anything. The booing was so loud for Hingis and the cheering was so loud for Mauresmo on every single action they took, the sound echoed worse than Davis Cup from the moment Hingis was booed when she walked on the court. Hingis compared it a soccer match, and she still
congratulated Mauresmo, and Mauresmo
talked up that crowd in the post because she was happy to win with rabble-rousing.
That volume of booing was not this match, but her second booing was on this same center stage a week earlier, and that was the reason she froze with flashbacks. She also flashbacked in her literal post interview. The crowd was not considering Mauresmo, even so. It was about these two players, on that Saturday afternoon. Obviously, you're yourself moving the goalpost with that 'Mauresmo' talk. So don't tell the guy he didn't 'get over it' when you're talking about Mauresmo years after they both allegedly 'got over it'.
A complete and total hosing of Graf's phony attitude and also to expose certain revisionists like you, I suppose. No, Wikipedia and this forum won't always work.
You do realize Hingis stated that she
saw Graf look at the shot go in, don't you? That Graf saw this and immediately
turned and walked away after the 'out' call.
My word, man! She was there! Plus, you can literally see this damn thing play out exactly how she says it if you look on YouTube! It's not some huge insider secret!