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I'm trying to prove that 2HBH has better close swing than 1HBH,and this is the key why 2HBH is easier to learn and play.!I don’t understand what you’re trying to prove here. Let’s just stop.
I'm trying to prove that 2HBH has better close swing than 1HBH,and this is the key why 2HBH is easier to learn and play.!I don’t understand what you’re trying to prove here. Let’s just stop.
Sure.I'm trying to prove that 2HBH has better close swing than 1HBH,and this is the key why 2HBH is easier to learn and play.!
That's impressiveSNAPPY GILMORE!
I'm sorry....were you comparing Badminton to tennis?Have you ever seen a Badminton player play a 2HBH... And guess what... In Badminton you almost constantly have to hit above the shoulder.
If it comes about racquet head speed, 1HBH is the way. Period.
Hockey bat is way too long and needs an high torque. Baseball bat is short but the mass is also way higher and thus also needs high torque. Both are soo heavy / high torque that a single human wrist is barely able to move these bats without being able to transfer power.
(Or a squash player... Or a... pickleball, paddle, ping pong...)
Lol. Exactly.I'm sorry....were you comparing Badminton to tennis?
And what about comparing Baseball to tennis... ?I'm sorry....were you comparing Badminton to tennis?
And what about comparing karate to tennis?And what about comparing Baseball to tennis... ?
Hmmm... Karate bat? Karate is about NOT having a bat, actually.And what about comparing karate to tennis?
There are many backhand strikes in KarateHmmm... Karate bat? Karate is about NOT having a bat, actually.
No, roger federer and stanislas wawrinka are not well-built at all with their completely weak uncoordinated unmanly non-dominant arms. A player can only be truly completely coordinated and well-built if they utilize both arms with the two-handed backhand like rafael nadal.Great,just look at ATP players now they are not well built men like David Nalbadian, Roger Federer or Stanislaw Wawrinka etc...
Now we have Daniil Medvedev, Sebastian Korda, or Jannik Sinner they are not well built men who would not operate 1HBH well...
We'll see on 2HBH backhand Medvedev who hides his hands close to the neck whether it is possible with 1HBH, but of course it is not possible and even if it is possible it is quite unsafe and unnecessary...
Only Borg played half 2 HBH with a strange ending of the stroke, but let's not expect such skills from people.!!
Let's agree that 2HBH displaces 1HBH, because it is easier to close the stroke with two hands, you can hide your hands close to the neck (like in golf), with 1HBH it is a big problem to do so...
I love 1HBH, I play it, but facts are facts.!!!
Wrong, you actually further proved my point with your completely argumentless trolling because denis shapovalov is a great example of a one-handed backhand player who has a completely weak uncoordinated unmanly non-dominant arm that is completely useless.Example of completely weak and uncoordinated.: (not sure about unmanly)
Ps Great trolling!
Wrong, the two-handed backhand is always completely biomechanically superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand completely regardless of whether or not one is holding a baseball bat, a table tennis paddle, or a spoon and completely regardless of any goal for "distance" and completely regardless of any type of "ball" used.I would agree with you if tennis was played with a baseball bat and the balls were baseballs and distance was one of the goals.
A question for you. Is the 2handed forehand superior to the one-handed forehand in any way (for tennis)?
OH has more leverage/torque, hence more power, ask WawrinkaI disagree slightly in the point re power. The rest is true enough I suppose. But the 1 hander has higher peak racquet head acceleration, the issue is it’s incredibly hard to find situations where you can bring that onto the ball. So in most rally situations it’s easier to find pace and depth off the two hander, due to the added stability. But off a dead ball a good one hander will produce a heavier ball (all else equal).
Wrong, there is absolutely no "false equivalency" because completely regardless of the static weight or "swing weight" of the object that is being swung, a two-handed swing where the arm closest to the hitting side is on top of the handle always is biomechanically superior to and always produces more acceleration than any one-handed backhand swing.This is the definition of a false equivalency. Baseball bats are only swung two handed because they are much much heavier than tennis racquets. Hockey sticks are only wielded two handed because, due to their length, the swing weight is much much heavier than tennis racquets.
Wrong, roger federer would be even a worse player if roger federer utilized a two-handed backhand because roger federer has absolutely no coordination, no strength, and no talent whatsoever in his non-dominant arm.No not for Fed as he was a GOAT of improvisation and stroke mechanics and if he did
have a DHBH could easily go full Santoro on that side even Agassi or Davydenko.
Sure it is speculation its a what if.....but he could do it, no questioning his abilities.
DHBH players like Connors also utilized a lethal slice and side spin and he was robotic.
Every1 knows Fed had the most lethal offensive slice just not defensive slice that
would go to Nadal, Murray, Nalbandian and Hewitt as he was all about clinical offense.
I imagine Fed with a double BH would look like hybrid between Nalbandian, NIshikori and Dolgopolov
Throughout the careers of players Fed only perfected it in the Neo era to work against Nadal.
That was a short time and at the end of his career.
ever-tried hitting someone with a "two-handed" backhand punch? Lendl himself said in his book "Hitting hot", there's a reason why the (single-handed) backhand punch is outlawed in boxing. Ultimately, speed of BH will be angular velocity times radius; the radius is larger for OH, so you need larger angular velocity with a 2HB to compensate for that. But since a tennis racket isnt heavy like a baseball bat it's not clear why would get more angular velocity with 2 hands (possibly you go do get more angular acceleration which is why it helps on the return given the split second one has to react, same reason 2 hands is better as baseball (plus the far heavier bat)Wrong, there is absolutely no "false equivalency" because completely regardless of the static weight or "swing weight" of the object that is being swung, a two-handed swing where the arm closest to the hitting side is on top of the handle always is biomechanically superior to and always produces more acceleration than any one-handed backhand swing.
This is ridiculous, you are trolling master.!No, roger federer and stanislas wawrinka are not well-built at all with their completely weak uncoordinated unmanly non-dominant arms. A player can only be truly completely coordinated and well-built if they utilize both arms with the two-handed backhand like rafael nadal.
Once again, the irrefutable and indisputable fact is that the two-handed backhand is completely superior and completely manlier to the completely inferior weak unmanly one-handed backhand.
I wonder why not a single badminton, squash or table tennis player uses the two-hander since it's so superior regardless of sport.Wrong, the two-handed backhand is always completely biomechanically superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand completely regardless of whether or not one is holding a baseball bat, a table tennis paddle, or a spoon and completely regardless of any goal for "distance" and completely regardless of any type of "ball" used.
Completely unlike the two-handed backhand, the two-handed forehand where the arm closest to the hitting side is on the bottom of the racquet handle is inferior to the one-handed forehand because even though the two-handed forehand is more stable at a singular position than the one-handed forehand, the two-handed forehand severely restricts the rotation of the arm at the bottom of the racquet handle which at the end, makes the maximum racquet head acceleration that is possible with the two-handed forehand less than that of the one-handed forehand.
Clever ObservationWrong, roger federer would be even a worse player if roger federer utilized a two-handed backhand because roger federer has absolutely no coordination, no strength, and no talent whatsoever in his non-dominant arm.
Wrong, you do not understand the concept of torque at all whatsoever because if a one-handed backhand swing actually produced more acceleration than a two-handed backhand swing, then a one-handed backhand swing would actually produce more torque than a two-handed backhand swing which is completely false and is simply not the case at all because completely regardless of the static weight of the object, a two-handed backhand swing where the arm closest to the hitting side is on top of the handle always biomechancially produces more acceleration and more torque than any one-handed backhand swing because both of the rotational power of the two arms are completely synergistically combined.Have you ever seen a Badminton player play a 2HBH... And guess what... In Badminton you almost constantly have to hit above the shoulder.
If it comes about racquet head speed, 1HBH is the way. Period.
Hockey bat is way too long and needs an high torque. Baseball bat is short but the mass is also way higher and thus also needs high torque. Both are soo heavy / high torque that a single human wrist is barely able to move these bats without being able to transfer power.
(Or a squash player... Or a... pickleball, paddle, ping pong...)
Wait,wait and what about inertia, if I hold it in two hands, the racquet loses its inertia?!...Wrong, you do not understand the concept of torque at all whatsoever because if a one-handed backhand swing actually produced more acceleration than a two-handed swing, then a one-handed swing would actually produce more torque than a two-handed swing which is completely false and simply not the case at all because completely regardless of the static weight of the object, a two-handed swing where the arm closest to the hitting side is on top of the handle always biomechancially produces more acceleration and more torque than any one-handed swing because both of the rotational power of the two arms are completely synergistically combined.
Sports like badminton, pickleball, squash, padel, table tennis, and etc. utilize the completely inferior one-handed backhand because players can simply mask their completely inferior one-handed backhand weakness more in those sports than in tennis and because the one-handed backhand is simply easier for those who are completely uncoordinated and completely weak with their non-dominant arm.
As a leftie Shapovalov have a very good chance to have very good right hand because of brain hemisphere connections. they have but forget about thatWrong, you actually further proved my point with your completely argumentless trolling because denis shapovalov is a great example of a one-handed backhand player who has a completely weak uncoordinated unmanly non-dominant arm that is completely useless.
Wrong again, a "two-handed" backhand punch is not the same at all as a two-handed backhand swing because a "two-handed" backhand punch is severely restricted in range of motion compared to a two-handed backhand swing where both hands actually grab onto a handle of another object.ever-tried hitting someone with a "two-handed" backhand punch? Lendl himself said in his book "Hitting hot", there's a reason why the (single-handed) backhand punch is outlawed in boxing. Ultimately, speed of BH will be angular velocity times radius; the radius is larger for OH, so you need larger angular velocity with a 2HB to compensate for that. But since a tennis racket isnt heavy like a baseball bat it's not clear why would get more angular velocity with 2 hands (possibly you go do get more angular acceleration which is why it helps on the return given the split second one has to react, same reason 2 hands is better as baseball (plus the far heavier bat)
What he said.higher angular acceleration but less radius. What matters is the speed of the middle of the racket at impact, which is angular VELOCITY times radius (not acceleration).
So yes 2HB advantageous when time is v limited because higher acceleration will then translate to higher impact speed eg on return of serve. Not so relevant in receiving a slow ball unless the player can acheive superior angular velocity with 2 hands to compensate for the smaller radius. Torque is a fancy word you're throwing around without knowning what it really means, or what ultimately determines the speed of the BH, which is all that matters for this discussion
As much as I love how the ohbh looks, today at least, there is barely any argument for it. 2hbh is more effective.Which one is better?
Pros of 1HBH
1)slice easier to learn and more effective
2) better reach
3) more power
Cons
1) bad technique and you are screwed- Tsitsipas
2) can break down unless you are Wawrinka, Kuerten or Thiem
3) more difficult to learn
4) more difficult to take high balls early
Pros of 2HBH
1) easier to learn
2) arguably more stable- you use both hands
3) better ROS
4) easier to take high balls earlier
Cons
1) smaller reach
2) less power( unless you are Safin)
3) worse slice
Wrong, I know that the TRUTH completely hurts you with your completely argumentless trolling responses.This is ridiculous, you are trolling master.!
Only 2HBh,maybe let everyone play like Sales or Santoro?!?!![]()
Wrong again, way back in the past, tennis players only used the completely inferior one-handed backhand before it became completely clear and obvious that the two-handed backhand was completely superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand.I wonder why not a single badminton, squash or table tennis player uses the two-hander since it's so superior regardless of sport.
You'll never be able to get as much accelleration on a tabletennis bat or a badminton or squash racket. There's a thing like wrist action with these lighter rackets and balls you cant generate with two hands.
GOOD.Clever Observation![]()
Wrong, if you utilize the two-handed backhand, your two-handed backhand swing gains more rotational velocity, more rotational acceleration, more rotational force, more rotational energy, more rotational power, and more rotational inertia compared to the completely inferior one-handed backhand swing which allows you to completely demolish any ball way more than any completely inferior one-handed backhand.Wait,wait and what about inertia, if I hold it in two hands, the racquet loses its inertia?!...
And as we know, inertia can demolish balls...!!
What do you think about that?!
I should clarify.Wrong again, way back in the past, tennis players only used the completely inferior one-handed backhand before it became completely clear and obvious that the two-handed backhand was completely superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand.
Wrong, the completely inferior one-handed backhand is only used in sports like table tennis, badminton, squash, and etc. because the complete inferiority of the one-handed backhand to the two-handed backhand is much easier to mask than tennis which requires much more strength which at the end of the day does not change the irrefutable and indisputable fact that the two-handed backhand is completely superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand.
Wrong, you will always generate more rotational speed, more rotational acceleration, more rotational energy, and more rotational power by utilizing the rotational strength of both hands as long as both hands are coordinated synergistically.
Wrong again, I am not talking at all about the ability of denis shapovalov's dominant arm because I am talking about the complete lack of ability in denis shapovalov's non-dominant arm relative to other professional players with a two-handed backhand due to denis shapovalov's one-handed backhand which completely demonstrates that those who hit with only a one-handed backhand have completely weak, uncoordinated, and unmanly non-dominant arms which is an irrefutable and indisputable fact that you and anyone else cannot ever do a single thing about.As a leftie Shapovalov have a very good chance to have very good right hand because of brain hemisphere connections. they have but forget about that
Instead of lets talk about "completely weak uncoordinated unmanly men" example of video i posted.
Arę You olimpics gymnatsics medalists yourself? You must be to one to have that harsh opinion about Shapo athletic abilities
Wrong, the fastest backhand ever was a two-handed backhand hit by david nalbandian that was more powerful than any completely inferior one-handed backhand ever and even then, david nalbandian with his two-handed backhand that features locked wrists to an extent does not fully utilize the entire biomechanical power of the completely superior two-handed backhand.One handers hit heavier ball more power and rpm combined
No, the two-handed backhand is biomechnically superior to the completely inferior one-handed backhand in all aspects including at generating spin because the rotational power of both arms is always greater than just one arm. Right now, the one-handed backhand on the professional tour appears to generate more spin due to the fact that most two-handed backhands on the professional tour feature locked wrists but as the non-dominant arm becomes more and more active in the evolution of the two-handed backhand swing, the two-handed backhands of the professional tour will inevitably completely dominate the completely inferior one-handed backhands in generating spin.I should clarify.
I think the 1hand bh is better for generating spin.
2hander better overall and especially due to being able to hand non-ideal contact balls better (eg high or late hitting behind body)
Another question for you.
For a ambidextrous person, do you think a hitting a backhand (left hand above right hand on grip) would be better than hitting a left-handed forehand?
GOOD.Hey guys! I'm going to my garage to dust off my time machine! Who wants to travel with me?
The plan is, we'll go back in time to the fateful day when Tennis Devolution was sitting on the front row in his first approval meeting, to join the extremely
tuff Hell's Angels. I want to see what happened when he said to the leader, "Wrong! Wrong! WRONG! You unmanly incipidly useless piece of garbage️"
I'm expecting we'll have hot stories that we can repeat for years!!![]()
Wrong, if you utilize the two-handed backhand, your two-handed backhand swing gains more rotational velocity, more rotational acceleration, more rotational force, more rotational energy, more rotational power, and more rotational inertia compared to the completely inferior one-handed backhand swing which allows you to completely demolish any ball way more than any completely inferior one-handed backhand.
Ive told You to leave Shapos right hand but you dont like to listenWrong again, I am not talking at all about the ability of denis shapovalov's dominant arm because I am talking about the complete lack of ability in denis shapovalov's non-dominant arm relative to other professional players with a two-handed backhand due to denis shapovalov's one-handed backhand which completely demonstrates that those who hit with only a one-handed backhand have completely weak, uncoordinated, and unmanly non-dominant arms which is an irrefutable and indisputable fact that you and anyone else cannot ever do a single thing about.
No.Wrong, you do not understand the concept of torque at all whatsoever because if a one-handed backhand swing actually produced more acceleration than a two-handed backhand swing, then a one-handed backhand swing would actually produce more torque than a two-handed backhand swing which is completely false and is simply not the case at all because completely regardless of the static weight of the object, a two-handed backhand swing where the arm closest to the hitting side is on top of the handle always biomechancially produces more acceleration and more torque than any one-handed backhand swing because both of the rotational power of the two arms are completely synergistically combined.
Sports like badminton, pickleball, squash, padel, table tennis, and etc. utilize the completely inferior one-handed backhand because players can simply mask their completely inferior one-handed backhand weakness more in those sports than in tennis and because the one-handed backhand is simply easier for those who are completely uncoordinated and completely weak with their non-dominant arm.
Haha, being from 1980 myself, this made me LOL1 HBH is for men
2 HBH is for girls
That's what we learnt in the 80s
Considering proportions of atp players with One hander to players with Double hander this video could sugest that statistically one handers arę better with generating maximum power.I accept that any backhand can be hit strongly, it's all a matter of technique and perfect timing:
No matter if you are Nalbandian, Thiem,Federer, Murray, Nadal, Gasquet etc:
What does the racqeut care if you hit with one or two hands, physics has to agree.!!!
Yeah, it is very probably that is more power and dynamic, but 1HBH has a less stability and control for racquet, this is art of tennis.Considering proportions of atp players with One hander to players with Double hander this video could sugest that statistically one handers arę better with generating maximum power.
But i think its to small amount of data to make any conclusions
Dude did you see the stats posted by tennis insights? What is the problem with this generation. So wrong yet so confidentWrong, the fastest backhand ever was a two-handed backhand hit by david nalbandian that was more powerful than any completely inferior one-handed backhand ever and even then, david nalbandian with his two-handed backhand that features locked wrists to an extent does not fully utilize the entire biomechanical power of the completely superior two-handed backhand.
Who cares about the fastest ever. I talked about speed and rpm combined. Also one player doesn’t matter **** I’m talking about on averageWrong, the fastest backhand ever was a two-handed backhand hit by david nalbandian that was more powerful than any completely inferior one-handed backhand ever and even then, david nalbandian with his two-handed backhand that features locked wrists to an extent does not fully utilize the entire biomechanical power of the completely superior two-handed backhand.
Wrong, the problem is your generation that is completely utterly wrong all the time and every time.Dude did you see the stats posted by tennis insights? What is the problem with this generation. So wrong yet so confident
Wrong again, the completely superior two handed-backhand has the most potential for power compared to the completely inferior one-handed backhand because the rotational power of both arms combined is always more powerful than one arm so the fact that the most powerful backhand ever hit was by a two-handed backhand by david nalbandian who utilizes a more locked-wrists two-handed backhand configuration that actually lessens the power generation of the two-handed backhand completely debunks the completely false idea that the completely inferior one-handed backhand has "buh buh buh more power".Who cares about the fastest ever. I talked about speed and rpm combined. Also one player doesn’t matter **** I’m talking about on average