2.5 to 5.5: Is It Possible?

Can someone go from 2.5 to 5.5?


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Deleted member 23235

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The question is, why do you even need to get to 5.5? At that level you'll have very few people to play with, while it would take hell of the effort and lots of money to get there. At level 4 you'll have lots of quality opponents and it's achievable at a reasonable pace. When and if I ever get to 4.5, I'd be spanking the butt of pretty much every player I know. At 5 it would be very lonely...
The thing is, tennis is a journey, it should be played, learned and enjoyed without worrying too much about the level. That is, unless you do it for living or a scolarship...

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runners have PR's.
long jumpers have distance.
baseball has era's and batting avg.
basketball has ppg, rebounds, blocks, steals, etc,...
football has combines, running yards, passing yards, etc,...

tennis... has NTRP :p

at 4.5, you realize that while smaller (than say the Pacific), there is still an ocean of people that can beat you.

at 5.0+, while you will be Usta lonely (i.e. some places only have leagues up to the 4.5 level), there will be no shortage of people to play with (i.e. all the high 4.5, 5.0, 5.5 guys also looking for hitting partners).

I might be relegated to just playing open tourneys,... where I'd be beat by traveling atp journeymen, ranked D1, etc,... but that's a good problem to have,... err goal to strive for.
 
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Deleted member 23235

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So true, and it should be so easy to understand. But there's a difference between enjoying the tennis and enjoying your ambition and ego accomplishments 'I am da man' type. There's little in common between the two.

I actually find out that not just from the competitors point of view, tennis is actually more fun at lower levels. Now, why? Because you can play completely relaxed at lower levels. You can go for some crazy shot which you don't have a slightest idea will it go in and what are the chances for that, yet it's fun when it somehow goes in. It may be even fun if it doesn't. And if you blow it nevermind, because you know that your opponent will give you couple of points back anyway, so no matter if you don't play it much safe in any moment it will still be competitive, it will still be fun.

While reaching some more serious level, every mistake counts. One mistake is responsible for the game loss, one game loss may be responsible for the set loss etc. There's no room for fooling around. You must be fully concentrated to give your best, otherwise you're not competitive (unless you play against a significantly weaker opponent).

So, when you drop your ego away from the game, lower (or average) level tennis is pretty fun. No one can tell me that some higher level tennis player has more fun playing tennis than me, because his level is higher.
true, deep happiness comes from maximizing/discovering your max potential.

priorities aside, accepting anything lower and you're just settling.
 
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Deleted member 23235

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I started as a 3.0 when I was 28 (based on pure athletic ability from player other sports the teaching pro said their was no way I was a 2.5)

I was 3.0 for 1 year-
Bumped to 3.5 at age 29
3.5 from 29 to 33 (last two season at 3.5 went undefeated in singles with the last season not having dropped a set)
34 started to play up at 4.0 (still ranked 3.5) had a winning record of 5-3 that season
35 bumped to 4.0

turning 36 in June and I can easily say I am playing the best tennis I ever have - mostly my serve it's not an atomic bomb but I can go down the T or out wide with decent speed at a pretty high percentage and my poaching prowess in doubles is pretty much what I am know for by other local players.

not sure if I will reach 4.5 (but I have hit with a few and can maintain a rally) mostly get beat on them jamming me and forcing a weak return for them to put away- need to learn to read the serves better I guess.

I play 1 night a week practice (2 hours) go to a teaching pro about once every 2 months for a lesson and 1 match a week normally. maybe more court time I could improve quicker but I would say reaching 5.0 and 5.5 will be near to impossible for me for two main reasons.

I know no 5.0 or 5.5 players in my area and I know we have no 5.0 leagues so I would never find the competition to make me have to play at that level to improve.

4.5 is as high at it gets for us and you can kinda play yourself out of tennis... and with me starting to work toward 40 I would much rather just become a strong 4.0 in the next 2-3 years and hold onto that as long as I can.
keep going, you'll make 4.5!
around me (nyc) there is no shortage of 5.0+ players.
even the "club" players at schools like Columbia, etc,... are 5.0's (the team is like 6.0+)
 
when we are talking about getting to 5.0 and above not only skill is needed but also athletic ability. to become a 5.5 you Need good Tennis skills but also some athletic Talent or you won't Keep up with Players of that Level.

26 is late but if you have elite athletic Talent (say former D1 college Baseball or Basketball Player) and a lot of dedication it can be done but otherwise I don't think so.

you still can be a good Player that has a lot of fun playing, make sure you learn the correct strokes, not just for Performance but also for Long term health.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
1.0 to 1.5 levels of league play is excellent IMHO. Most only gain .5.. So start at 3 or 2.5 - then play a 3 or 3.5. I Know a girl who started at 2.5 and is now playing successfully on a 4.0 team. However she was realistically a very strong 3.0 to start - and crushed people while being self-rated 2.5...

I know quite a few people who are happier having dropped down.. If you have been playing okay at 4.0 - winning some matches - dropping down to 3.5 can make tennis seem more fun.

People forget that tennis is a sport - its not just dedication or hours - athletic ability starts to matter up at 4.5/5.0/5.5.. You won't be able to compete at those levels being a poor athlete.

Its like being able to dunk a basketball. Are their dudes who start off who can only touch net who learn to dunk.. Sure. But most guys who become good dunkers can throw it down by freshman year in HS.

Its very hard to improve your raw athletic ability..

Weighlifting is another good example. Most guys can bench 150 without working out..with work they can bench 300.. But its unlikely but not impossible that they can bench 500.. The vast majority of guys who end up being able to do that though started out benching 250lbs..

Practice can 'unlock' your raw ability - but it won't elevate you to top tier levels if you lack athletic talent. Even in the book "Tennis Mastery" he talks about going "beyond 3.5" - that's realistic goal for most people. Beyond 5.0 - not realistic..

Tennis players seem to be loathe to admit this - notably that guy who thought he could elevate his serve to be like Feds.. But Federer despite his waifish looks is actually an excellent athlete who would have been good at many different sports..
 
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Aretium

Hall of Fame
Hello everyone,

I recently started playing tennis at the age of 26 and am completely in love with the sport. Both watching or playing it is exciting for me. Never have I ever picked up a sport like tennis and I go to the courts as much as I can. I was wondering, is it possible to go from 2.5 to 5.5 on the NTRP scale?

This is more a question of curiosity to see if it's even a palpable goal to set for a few years.

Absolutely no chance. 5.5 equivalent are dudes who had the pro/college game in mind and didn't quite make it.

You would need to play 6 times a week, and 3 times in the gym and also be VERY talented. If you get to 4.5 it will be an amazing achievement.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
I voted 'No'. A 26 year old just taking up the sport who is a good enough athlete to make it to 5.5., would probably be a 3.5 before his 1st hour of hitting was up (ok, slight exaggeration - but very, very quickly). So if he truly is a 2.5, he probably won't have what it takes to ever get to 5.5. 4.5 would probably be it. As @dgold44 said very well above me, 5.0 is really, really, really good. The steps get tougher and tougher.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
I think some can go from 4 to 4.5
No reason you can't make 4.5 if you are motivated and average athlete

Beyond 4.5 is a massive jump that less than 1/1000 can accomplish
You need God given talent and perfect technique
Now 5.5 is just silly and impossible
 

coupergear

Professional
My daughter started as a freshman in high school and she is now about to be a freshman in College. It took her roughly four and a half years to reach an advanced level. That's four and a half years of playing 5 days a week. If you could play 5 days a week, find and afford good coaching and keep your passion long enough then you could reach the level you want to reach but it would probably take 8 years of nothing but tennis tennis tennis.
What level is she?

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bitcoinoperated

Hall of Fame
Adult leaning can only carry you so far in some sports and tennis is a sport that has to be learned young to be good and 5.5 is very very good. Good technique can be learned by coachable and athletic adults but just like skiing, it is the innate coordination, anticipation and feel can only be learned very young.

I bet every good teaching pro can tell when someone has learned as a kid or an adult
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
One of the false implications of the NTRP system is that it gives the impression that you can move up the scale by practice, and that anyone can move up if they just practice enough. Think about how silly it would be if they came up with a rating system for recreational adult basketball that went from "never played before" to "NBA all star". Then people would ask questions like "I'm 26 and never played basketball, what shots should I practice most to become a summer league (just below NBA) player"? It's laughable to even suggest this.

For all practical purposes, the adult NTRP tennis scale runs from 2.5 to 4.5. Any given player will max out at a certain level based on natural athletic ability, age, and conditioning moreso than tennis skills. If you are a 4.0 level athlete, you will max out at 4.0 and getting marginally better at backhands (for example) isn't going to move you up. There is nothing wrong with this, play and have fun. Don't get overly focused on ratings.

A 4.5 rated player, according to data, is in the top 5-10% of rec players. Ratings of 5.0 and above are not really "recreational" tennis, and are not just players who practiced a lot after work and got better. Rather 5.0+ is former high level college and semi-pro players. While getting there is theoretically possible (just like making NBA summer league at 30 is "possible"), it is not necessarily practical or even desirable.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
There is truth to this but because the OP is just starting out he won't have any bad habits that are evident and need to be undone.
Very true. But the flip side is: he's 26 and has NEVER won a tennis match. He has no clue how to analyze an opponent, handle his nerves, change his game plan mid match, deal with gamesmanship, etc. 5.5 isn't just about having dreamy strokes - wins and losses against people who've (mostly) been playing tennis since they were very young.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
So a superior athlete/superior competitor can play less tennis and be better....or they can start tennis later and quickly pass many of the longer time players.

Mental toughness and athletic ability can often be linked.. That is because a player is a superior athlete - they have faith that they will win in the end - because they believe they will win in the end - they keep fighting..

The basketball analogy is good one for tennis..IMHO. It's quite common to see some 'gym rats' who play hoops all the time dominated by say the cornerbacks from the football team.. Once you have the basics at a certain level - being able to beat guys to spots - cover more space in defensively - anticipate passes better - jump higher and run faster - all those factors outweigh the gym rats superior skill. And some of the 'rats' are actually quite skilled - they can shoot far better if left alone for example..

But the 'athlete' teams not only believes they are better - they believe they should win - so generally speaking they will outfight the gym rats.. I guess a good tennis example of this kind of player is the LeeD type - these guys aren't competitive athletes but they play tennis all the time. A good strong HS kid who just play tennis once a season (and in the summer) can dominate a 4.0..
 

coupergear

Professional
In fact Its been very frustrated to see players being coached for years and still can't hit a proper forehand and I want to scream at the coaches for wasting the money of these kids / parents.
I've heard you voice this opinion several times I'm not understanding how you know it's the coaches fault. I understand you believe your own daughter was mis coached for a period of time, however I believe this is skewing your judgment. There are kids that just can't make the motion. I'm a ski instructor i'll try many many ways and cues to get a student to progress. They have ample opportunity to practice. Some get it, many dont. Look at something like a throwing motion there are people that you could teach for years and go into extreme detail as technical as possible try all kinds of different ways of teaching yet they still will not have a good natural throwing motion. just because a kid has worked on it for a long time with a coach and isn't improving isn't necessarily the coaches fault... for all you know the coach could be maximizing their talent.

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Hello everyone,

I recently started playing tennis at the age of 26 and am completely in love with the sport. Both watching or playing it is exciting for me. Never have I ever picked up a sport like tennis and I go to the courts as much as I can. I was wondering, is it possible to go from 2.5 to 5.5 on the NTRP scale?

This is more a question of curiosity to see if it's even a palpable goal to set for a few years.
Yeah sure I see no reason why not if you put in the time. Ive played some guys who didn"t take up tennis until mid 20s. One guy was particularly good and regularly features in the last 4 in national veteran competitions in over 45 section. Sure its possible. The obvious factors are athletic genes, your level of commitment and ur ability to discern the game which suits your skillset most.
 

sovertennis

Professional
And there you have your answer...

I coach many low level, developing adult players, some of whom dream of making big leaps in their rating. Some will likely make it to 3.5-4.0 if they play often enough and with better players, are patient, and take instruction well. I tell them this: Enjoy the level you're at now; keep playing and trying to improve, then enjoy playing at the next level. Repeat..
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
And yet the ones who reach a very high level are the ones who practice much more than the others. I agree with some of what you said but you seem to contradict yourself. What separates those high level college players (and juniors)from the rest if not practice?

There is no magic that happens. My daughter who plays about 8 hours week is better than the players who play 3 hours a week and worse than the players who play 15 hours a week. I agree though, that a rec player will likely not put anywhere near the required hours into it. Not to mention losing interest. Part of what motivates young players are tournaments and college. They have a goal. It's hard when you don't have a clear goal.

You are talking about juniors though. That's a much different animal. I am talking about adult rec players.
 

coupergear

Professional
I've been on the court many times watching the kids being coached, including my daughter, and witnessed consistently poor coaching. Watching someone learn a unit turn for example, the coach shows the student what to do a few times and and 10 minutes later the kid stops doing it and the coach does'nt remind him again for the rest of the lesson and three weeks later he's not doing the unit turn. Just stuff like that. My daughter would always tell me she does not understand what her coach is trying to explain.. so I decided to sit in on a lesson and knew exactly what she meant within 10 minutes. He does not articulate what he wants her to do. I could have explained better in one sentence what he was trying to convey the for 20 minutes.

The biggest evidence for me is the rate of improvement my daughter has experienced compared to her peers that still hit at the club under the same coaches. She is much more advanced and it isn't because she has incredible talent, it's because she is coached well and works hard. Some of her peers are just as athletic and committed and play at least as many hours per week but they haven't advanced at the same rate. And it's not as if my daughter is an especially fast learner, she is not and we have had to relearn things that she's forgotten and keep working on things that we thought were mastered.

If one or two kids can't hit a proper forehand after 3 years of lessons, it may be the kids, If the majority of kids can't hit a proper forehand after three years, you have a coaching problem. It should not come as a surprise that the coaching field is full of mediocre talent. It's rare to find someone who really excels at their job.

There are levels of coaching just like levels of players. There is no reason for a great coach to work at a small club in the north east when they are heavily recruited and compensated in places where the tennis is much more serious.

Sounds like you're talking about a coach and students at a specific club that you've witnessed, hardly a wide sample.

I agree, there are mediocre coaches, but you could just as easily say the junior ranks are full of mediocre tennis talent. Parents can also get into a coach shopping situation where they constantly change coaches and/or find fault in coaching rather than admit (or even see) shortcomings in their own children. When I start hearing parents say stuff like I could have taught them that in one sentence it makes me a little suspicious. Also kids will tell parents what they want to hear and if the theme is blame the coach, and parents are asking leading questions, kids will play along. Yes its hard--a parent is always going to wonder would my kid be better off in another program? They want the best for their kid.

As far as the unit turn hey at least he was teaching a unit turn! Also I found in my ski teaching sometimes it does take awhile for things to click and can be through self-discovery. As much as I hammer things in they may or may not get it but eventually at some point it clicks for them and then they come back and say "hey now I know what you were talking about". I think this happens a lot in tennis. The more reps you have the more you can fool around with different strokes and different things and discover.

Sounds like it was obvious in your situation that the coach was not effective, yet it could be timing and your daughter may now be absorbing and executing on things that she heard from her old coach.







I've been on the court many times watching the kids being coached, including my daughter, and witnessed consistently poor coaching. Watching someone learn a unit turn for example, the coach shows the student what to do a few times and and 10 minutes later the kid stops doing it and the coach does'nt remind him again for the rest of the lesson and three weeks later he's not doing the unit turn. Just stuff like that. My daughter would always tell me she does not understand what her coach is trying to explain.. so I decided to sit in on a lesson and knew exactly what she meant within 10 minutes. He does not articulate what he wants her to do. I could have explained better in one sentence what he was trying to convey the for 20 minutes.

The biggest evidence for me is the rate of improvement my daughter has experienced compared to her peers that still hit at the club under the same coaches. She is much more advanced and it isn't because she has incredible talent, it's because she is coached well and works hard. Some of her peers are just as athletic and committed and play at least as many hours per week but they haven't advanced at the same rate. And it's not as if my daughter is an especially fast learner, she is not and we have had to relearn things that she's forgotten and keep working on things that we thought were mastered.

If one or two kids can't hit a proper forehand after 3 years of lessons, it may be the kids, If the majority of kids can't hit a proper forehand after three years, you have a coaching problem. It should not come as a surprise that the coaching field is full of mediocre talent. It's rare to find someone who really excels at their job.

There are levels of coaching just like levels of players. There is no reason for a great coach to work at a small club in the north east when they are heavily recruited and compensated in places where the tennis is much more serious.


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Noveson

Hall of Fame
I voted 'No'. A 26 year old just taking up the sport who is a good enough athlete to make it to 5.5., would probably be a 3.5 before his 1st hour of hitting was up (ok, slight exaggeration - but very, very quickly). So if he truly is a 2.5, he probably won't have what it takes to ever get to 5.5. 4.5 would probably be it. As @dgold44 said very well above me, 5.0 is really, really, really good. The steps get tougher and tougher.

Exactly. There's a few 5.5s out there that aren't good athletes, most of them grew up with tennis playing parents at a tennis club somewhere, but the vast majority are good athletes, and were better than 2.5 players within just a few sessions of playing.

I started relatively late and ended up around that level(I don't think I was ever a 6.0 level, but I have no idea how that is measured since I only would play college players/open level stuff). By the time I would say I even "played" tennis I was at least a 3.5. There's quite a few kids out there that are worse athletes than me and wayyy better than me, but I don't know a single one that didn't grow up in a club/taking lessons/had tennis playing parents.

Basically, at age 26, starting at a 2.5, I don't think there's a shot. A good athlete, with no time or money problems, would likely be able to, but I doubt that person would ever start out as a 2.5.
 

coupergear

Professional
I think there are two questions here whether it can be done or whether it's worth trying. I think it's great to have big goals and shoot for the stars that can help drive you forward to have such a lofty goal. I remember in highschool I got into the theater and we are doing anything musical production, I had a leading role where I had to do some dance moves and I really really wanted to be able to do the prince / Terence Trent D'Arby splits and go down in a split and back up. I figured with enough practice and if I stretch everyday for the year I would have it. I worked hard and did well with the dance number but never got that move in. Not even close actually. So I think we all dream about being big-time players and ultimately I think it's critical to have those dreams in order to improve But ultimately there is a ceiling to Improvement.

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Deleted member 23235

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my opinion is that it is possible for a decent athlete to start in their 20's and to get to 5.5...

so I'm hoping someone would prove me right :p

I'd imagine it'd take:
*20hrs a week of practice/conditioning/injury prevention/strict diet/etc,... for a decade
*fair amount of regular coaching (daily!)
*fair amount of high(er) level hitting partners
*a lot of competition (travel!)

if the player had just mediocre racquet skills, I envision the player to be a grinder,... just getting every ball back. no amazing shots, mostly ward law directionals, high heavy topspin - extremely consistent shots, etc,... basically make every match a marathon.

personally I don't think my body could sustain that amount of training anymore... and financially I'd have to sacrifice my kids college education to make it happen,... but perhaps as a 20something, no obligations, well funded, etc,... I think it could happen :p
 

sovertennis

Professional
Could not happen. Even if a very athletic, motivated person with endless time and money to spend could develop highly advanced 5.0+ level strokes, this person could never develop a 5.5 level game. There's a big difference between being able to hit and being able to play, the latter of which takes far more time to develop. My 2c.
 

LetsPlayFBI

New User
If you can enjoy the process and keep loving the game you will be a success. Do not get caught up in the ratings. Everyone is self rated nowadays anyway so it really will rob you of any joy you may have on the tennis court chasing "the lottery". So don't chase the # or rating. Just play. I hope that didn't sound like a Nike commercial. : )
 

GuyClinch

Legend
my opinion is that it is possible for a decent athlete to start in their 20's and to get to 5.5...

so I'm hoping someone would prove me right :p

I'd be excited to just see improvement in ONE STROKE. I haven't seen a single player with the dreaded waiter tray/no drop serve transform it into a serve that "looks' ATP like a strong 4.5/5.0 serve that's well over a 100.. (Your average teaching pro serve)..

Tennis improvement for adults seems pretty awful.. can't help but think many adults should spend their time doing something else if their goal is improvement... Intellectual pursuits for example show very modest limitations. For example you can find fluent speakers who picked up a language as an adult... Age and sports seems a particularly awful combination.

Now if your goal is to have fun playing tennis - have at it. That's why I play - strictly amusement.. Average improvement for rec players is roughly 1.0 - 1.5 (best case scenario). That not bad. If you start at 2.5 - 4.0 is pretty awesome. And 4.0s are plenty "good" at tennis. They just aren't going to beat professional players..

Just like the local rec hoops player at the Y isn't going to own Westbrook.
 

kiteboard

Banned
Impossible. Too many habits to unlearn/fight off, as in bad ones we all start with. I am trying the impossible as well. M:ake 5.0 at 60 from low 4.5.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Took you 7 year's to get to bottom of 4.0, and you might be in the middle of 4.0.
NO CHANCE. Most good player's take about 3 year's to make 4.0, one more for 4.5.
Gotta triple your playing time, to hope for 4.5 now.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Took you 7 year's to get to bottom of 4.0, and you might be in the middle of 4.0.
NO CHANCE. Most good player's take about 3 year's to make 4.0, one more for 4.5.
Gotta triple your playing time, to hope for 4.5 now.
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
And 4.0s are plenty "good" at tennis. They just aren't going to beat professional players.

Agree, and I think this gets lost on many rec players who are caught up in ratings. For someone who plays tennis for fun as a hobby after work, and mixed in with family life and other pursuits of a well balanced life, a 4.0 is a really, really, really good tennis player. Top 10-15% of recreational players. Saying things like "only a 4.0" for that person really diminishes what is a pretty nice accomplishment.
 

kingcheetah

Hall of Fame
I think it depends on the age of the player. At what point do you hit certain "benchmark" levels like 4.0, 4.5 and 5.0? In your case, I really doubt you'll be able to do it if you're starting from the 2.5 level at 26. 5.5 is really hard to get to-- you're talking mid major d1 in my opinion. Like others have said, above 4.5, fitness and athleticism become much more of a "make or break" for your improvement. So it's a race against the clock-- getting the technical skills and ability while you still have the fitness/athleticism (if you did in the first place.)
 

10isMaestro

Semi-Pro
Everyone who picks up a racket for the first time is admittedly bad at it, so all professional players went from less than 2.5 to a full 7.0.

However, if you want to play 5.0 or even above, down from a 2.5 level, you'll need to work hard and for a long time. Professional players atop of their game usually are in their mid 20s and have spent well over a decade perfecting their game, spending thousands of hours on the court and at the gym, so you're up for some serious work if you intend on reaching that high a level of play.

I also want to make you realize something. At a certain point in a player's development, tennis stops being a hobby. I'd tempted to say that for many 5.0 or higher players, tennis is a life style. We're talking about people hitting a few times per week, getting private lessons ocassionally, attending tournaments or partaking to league matches. Those people don't work as tennis players, so they have a job and hence all of those things must take place in whatever spare time is left after their weekly chores and working hours. So a lot of their spare time is dedicated to playing tennis, improving their game or training to get in better shape.

If your goals in life include a certain career path, perhaps also owning your own place and starting a family, or maybe travelling a bit, it will be very difficult to get to a 5.0 level of play, let alone going beyond that because time will be too scarce. People comment here about athleticism, but your primary problem will be time and unless some of your goals besides tennis include aspects that are tennis-related, you'll have to make choices about what you prefer to keep and what you will give up.

I also wanted to finish this post on a more enjoyable note, something more encouraging that will keep you happy working on your game. It might not seem like that when you're on the sidelines or when you look at videos, but even 4.5 players play extremely well. When you put yourself in front of those shots, you can realize it's not easy at all to keep up, no matter what you try to do with them. I know that people on this forum will be excessively picky on technical details and will routinely underrate otherwise very good players just because this or that stroke doesn't look as neat as it should, but as they say the proof is in the pudding: when you get them to play against other 4.5 players you realize that those idyosincracies and special habits of theirs work very well at that level.

Moreover, there is something else to tennis than your playing level. It is supposed to be a fun game, something you enjoy doing. Of course, just like everybody on this forum, I love to see myself doing things I thought I couldn't do, or learning to do things I knew I couldn't do before. This sort of surprise, of knowing you're moving forward in some sense, is very satisfying. It is also nice to win matches every now and then. In other words, results can be part of the fun. They just aren't the whole of the fun. Yesterday, I played a set and tried a few things like hitting slice serves and serving and volleying on all service points. I lost, but the feeling of moving forward, trying to make sure my transition volley does something and playing more with touch shots than usual was very satisfying. For me, tennis is also about the "I got you" moments, where you go out and you outsmart your opponent -- and it was also nice to see my opponent respond. My personal goal for tennis is to get my game to a point where intentions matter more often so that I get to live more of those moments on the court.
 

bitcoinoperated

Hall of Fame
Tennis improvement for adults seems pretty awful.. can't help but think many adults should spend their time doing something else if their goal is improvement... Intellectual pursuits for example show very modest limitations. For example you can find fluent speakers who picked up a language as an adult... Age and sports seems a particularly awful combination.

I think certain types of learning can only happen young, an adult brain just can't learn things in the same instinctual fashion and works more intellectually. Adults do ok in sports that have a lower technical component, tennis (and skiing) have an extremely high skill requirement (like skiing) which is why all the best players started very young.
 
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