2-piece stringing pattern for Ti.S6

bluecephas

New User
Does anyone know how to string a Head Titanium Ti.S6 with 2-piece stringing? Please help with the stringing pattern, or is there a way to figure it out by the 1-piece pattern? Thanks.
 

nek4d

New User
Haha, all correct, anyway, wrote it just for the next readers looking for that racket and happen to reach here.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
IMO, the best thing you can do with a Ti.S6 is too use a silver fat sharpie to mark the top and bottom 2 crosses. I just color the grommet silver. It matches the frame, and the cross strings stick out so easy to string properly.
Head didn't mark this frame like they do now. I made a mistake stringing a Ti.S6 once. I string one client's frames frequently, so asked him if he minded if I marked his crosses for my ease of stringing. Makes stringing his frames simple.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
IMO, the best thing you can do with a Ti.S6 is too use a silver fat sharpie to mark the top and bottom 2 crosses. I just color the grommet silver. It matches the frame, and the cross strings stick out so easy to string properly.
Head didn't mark this frame like they do now. I made a mistake stringing a Ti.S6 once. I string one client's frames frequently, so asked him if he minded if I marked his crosses for my ease of stringing. Makes stringing his frames simple.
I would politely disagree. IMHO, the best thing one can do with a TiS6 is place it in the nearest trash receptacle.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Ha! $ from OS or Super OS Granny sticks are the source of my drinks. See them annually or semi-annually. Only thing I have to be careful about making sure that the frames' mains are less than 16" long. :alien:
 

Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
IMO, the best thing you can do with a Ti.S6 is too use a silver fat sharpie to mark the top and bottom 2 crosses. I just color the grommet silver. It matches the frame, and the cross strings stick out so easy to string properly.
Head didn't mark this frame like they do now. I made a mistake stringing a Ti.S6 once. I string one client's frames frequently, so asked him if he minded if I marked his crosses for my ease of stringing. Makes stringing his frames simple.
Head has many weird frames. Most Ti series frames are like this given the head shape.
It is one of the popular frames at rec level.
Ti.S6 frame has stiffness of 72 if I remember correctly.
 

struggle

Legend
The pickleball racquet.

I actually have a couple of friends that play quite well with these, amazingly.
No, i don't like stringing them, but no big deal really.

They have their place, just not in my bag.
 

jim e

Legend
I string the Ti. S6 a lot, as many old timers in my area hit with that racquet. It's a simple one to string. I would never hit with that thing, but it's an easy fast string job.
 

Wes

Professional
IMO, the best thing you can do with a Ti.S6 is too use a silver fat sharpie to mark the top and bottom 2 crosses. I just color the grommet silver. It matches the frame, and the cross strings stick out so easy to string properly.
Head didn't mark this frame like they do now. I made a mistake stringing a Ti.S6 once. I string one client's frames frequently, so asked him if he minded if I marked his crosses for my ease of stringing. Makes stringing his frames simple.
IMHO, the best thing one can do with a TiS6 is place it in the nearest trash receptacle.
No, i don't like stringing them, but no big deal really.
They have their place, just not in my bag.

Ok, guys. Initially, I wasn't going to broach the topic.
However, now that I've seen more than one person expressing displeasure with this frame, I'm going to take the leap.

I'm trying to fathom why this particular frame is such a "problem child".

So, specifically, what's so annoying about this frame? In particular, I'm curious to hear @g4driver's comments.
Is it because there are 2 skips at the head (7H,9H) and only 1 skip at the bottom (8T)?
Surely, there must be more to the aggravation than just that.
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
I play with a buddy that is a pretty good player that uses one. He gets a bit worked up out on the court. I asked him why he uses that cruddy racquet.

he said they are cheap and so he can smash it whenever he feels like it. We played once and he put a nice smile in one and tossed it in the can and walked off. I waited until he left and I grabbed it and have it hanging from the ceiling using a string tied to the handle in my stringing area.

I plan to make a trophy from it by mounting it on a piece of wood and assigning a yearly "sportsmanship award" to a player on one of the USTA teams I captain.

 
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g4driver

Hall of Fame
Ok, guys. Initially, I wasn't going to broach the topic.
However, now that I've seen more than one person expressing displeasure with this frame, I'm going to take the leap.

I'm trying to fathom why this particular frame is such a "problem child".

So, specifically, what's so annoying about this frame? In particular, I'm curious to hear @g4driver's comments.
Is it because there are 2 skips at the head (7H,9H) and only 1 skip at the bottom (8T)?
Surely, there must be more to the aggravation than just that.
The issue for me isnt the TIS6, it is getting 5 to sometimes 13 frames a day. I am a professional pilot, not a pro stinger. So when I am out of town 3 to 4 days a week and come home to find 20+ frames waiting for me, time is precious. The TI6S is easy to string if you look up the pattern. I haven't looked up a patten on a frame in years. When you string enough frames, you "don't see the code" , you see the skips on mains even if they aren't marked. I strung 21 frames over Easter weekend on Sat and Sun.


so when I see two Head TiS6 from the 4.5C make client (yes a 4.5 guy who uses 1.25mm Lux Alu Power 60M/ Tecnfibre HDX Tour 1.35mm 62X) I know 3.5 wingspans of my arm lengths isn't enough to do his mains. So 20' feet or 1/2 a pack of string doesn't work on this 115 square inch frame. It's 3.75 of my wingspans from a reel for his mains, so marking his cross grommets simply speeds up my time on a frame from a string breaking 4.5 who sends me two frames frequently. I strung six gut / poly frames yesterday. Gut takes me longer.

I clocked myself today stringing a 2018 pure drive using Origjn mains & Velocity crosses.. 21 mins. The Blade 98 18x20 with Hyoer G took over 30 mins. The Hesd TI6S isn't hard to strung, but taking the time to know exactly how many wingspans I need for the mains and having the top two cross grommets marked does speed up my time on this particular frame.

Players never tell me "hey I need a bumper guard or grommets" just they need stringing. I ordered one client 6 sets of Volkl Suoer G grommets this week. Replacing grommets and guards are part of stringing for me and I have a Pure Control Tour and two APD that both need guard/ grommets tomorrow before I string them.

Being a more efficient stringer is a goal. Cutting the stringing time, grommet installation time and not spending 4 hours a day stringing or doing racquet repair is my goal. I don't want more clients right now. I am at peak capacity.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
My guess, the problems stringing the Ti.S6 only arise when you’re stringing with glide bars or flying clamps. And the mains may be a bits longer than some stringers expect So you may need to bridge the mains to tension them.
 
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Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
I play with a buddy that is a pretty good player that uses one. He gets a bit worked up out on the court. I asked him why he uses that cruddy racquet.

he said they are cheap and so he can smash it whenever he feels like it. We played once and he put a nice smile in one and tossed it in the can and walked off. I waited until he left and I grabbed it and have it hanging from the ceiling using a string tied to the handle in my stringing area.

I plan to make a trophy from it by mounting it on a piece of wood and assigning a yearly "sportsmanship award" to a player on one of the USTA teams I captain.

That racket looks new!
It is $79 or so. I won't consider it too cheap.
 

Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
My guess, the problems stringing the Ti.S6 only arise when you’re stringing with glide bars or flying clamps. And the mains may be a bits longer than some stringers expect So you may need to bridge the mains to tension them.
Flying clamps for the last few crosses and mains is where it gets tougher given the big gap.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
I'm trying to fathom why this particular frame is such a "problem child".
My most problem child frame to string is the Blade 93 18x20. Tennis Menace quoted me $99.95 for one set of grommets. I have graphite and kevlar splinters from two of the six frames from one client. I told him no mas on the KBlade 93 which are nearly bare from worn bumper guards. Retire those two frames or spin $200 bucks for two sets of grommets. I won't string them anymore. He has four all-black Blade 93's that don't give me graphite splinters
 

Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
My most problem child frame to string is the Blade 93 18x20. Tennis Menace quoted me $99.95 for one set of grommets. I have graphite and kevlar splinters from two of the six frames from one client. I told him no mas on the KBlade 93 which are nearly bare from worn bumper guards. Retire those two frames or spin $200 bucks for two sets of grommets. I won't string them anymore. He has four all-black Blade 93's that don't give me graphite splinters
Just grommet for $99.95? I would rather dump/sell the stick.
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
That racket looks new!
It is $79 or so. I won't consider it too cheap.
I thought the grip on it looked brand new. I really don't know about the price as I have never really looked it up but that sure is pretty expensive to give it a few whacks on a court. I wonder if he gets them off fleabay.

I string for a couple of guys that use them and haven't had any issues really stringing them. One guy insists on ALU Power in it at relatively high tension which makes me think he is trying to tame the power instead of just getting one of the really nice playable racquets that are out right now.
 

Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
I string for a couple of guys that use them and haven't had any issues really stringing them. One guy insists on ALU Power in it at relatively high tension which makes me think he is trying to tame the power instead of just getting one of the really nice playable racquets that are out right now.
Only last 2 mains (if I remember) on both sides is where caution is needed.
Once you know or have done it before, rest is as usual.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
The flying clamps that come with the Neos 1000 have an “up/down” and are specifically designed for fan patterns.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
The Up is wider than the down. Clearly, they are not needed for the crosses
OR for square/straight patterns on such a machine.
How are these magic Prince flying clamps specifically designed to clamp the strings farther apart at the head and closer together in the throat? LOL
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@Irvin the clamp teeth are not parallel. They are V-shaped although not a lot. Hence the upper portions of the clamps are wider than the lower portion.
It ain’t designer clothes pins but it works well.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
@Irvin the clamp teeth are not parallel. They are V-shaped although not a lot. Hence the upper portions of the clamps are wider than the lower portion.
It ain’t designer clothes pins but it works well.
i’ll believe it when I see it.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I know Prince supplied flying clamps to string fan rackets on the 1000 but I don’t think they are wider on one side. There was a thread from 4 years ago.
Look at post #20 the center section of the clamp the spacer has a straight pivot in the bottom. I believe that center section 2 sides are parallel or they would not work. Also those center sections are very narrow. If you clamp the outer 2 mains (mains end at head) that clamp twist would be a lot causing a lot of lost tension on the tie off.
 

struggle

Legend
Post #20? Please clarify......have another look at post #20.

At any rate.....like others (those that ACTUALLY KNOW) said even in that thread. IT'S TRUE!!
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Post #20? Please clarify......have another look at post #20.

At any rate.....like others (those that ACTUALLY KNOW) said even in that thread. IT'S TRUE!!
Maybe just maybe that is the first and only time on this forum people that had not idea of what they were talking about said something that wasn’t true.
:eek:
I know it's a hard concept to grasp, but...
it's something known as "tapered".
If the clamps were tapered the outer 2 sections of the clamp would have to open at an angle, and if that’s true there would have to be 2 separate axis in the bottom of the center section but there isn’t.

Show me a picture of the clamps that demonstrates how the clamps open at an angle or it doesn’t happen. I think you guys are trying to blow smoke up someone‘s butt cap.
 

struggle

Legend
Show me a picture of the clamps that demonstrates how the clamps open at an angle or it doesn’t happen. I think you guys are trying to blow smoke up someone‘s butt cap.
Just because there is no picture doesn't mean it's untrue. C'mon man!!! Do you believe in God? Ever seen a picture of her? Is it true?

Or just MAYBE you're wrong again. There is no need for two pivots if designed correctly. I'm guessing the fine folks at Ektelon/Prince had an
idea about what they were doing...
 

struggle

Legend
Nice work!! Clearly it will work as designed.........

Engineers designed this, not some internet blowhard.

Also, one side is not flat and the other tapered......the clamp is tapered from one side to the other.
The whole unit is tapered.

FOR FAN PATTERNS!!

Thanks for clearing this up for yourself.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
IMO, the best thing you can do with a Ti.S6 is too use a silver fat sharpie to mark the top and bottom 2 crosses. I just color the grommet silver. It matches the frame, and the cross strings stick out so easy to string properly.
I've strung enough of them, often enough to not need markings. I have one in queue to string now.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
I've strung enough of them, often enough to not need markings. I have one in queue to string now.
I don't need markings either skipped .7&9 H , 8T, 3.75 WS for mains memorized and replaced the grommets with new ones last time they were strung.

Companies who mark frames for tie offs on frames with shared holes like Head does on frames (Speed MP) or Babolat with the Pure Aero for starting crosses certainly makes things easier the first time you string a frame.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@Irvin - from a compeitor's website:

Prince Universal Flying Clamp is a double string clamp and has an angled centre block for fan stringing patterns. One clamp sent per unit bought.

Reading is Fundamental. If you doubt this is real, I can PM you the website or you can Google Prince Neos 100 flying clamps and look a the middle picture which shows a Prince flying clamp. The cost is $41.79. You can click on that picture and view the description for yourself.

Gomer Pyle said:
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
You know if it were just me saying it....well you might have a case. But when the rest of the world tells you WRONG, you might should consider the possibility (and on more than just this).

@struggle
 
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