2010 US Open Seeds

[robin7]

2010 US Open Men's Singles Seeds

1. Rafael Nadal, Spain
2. Roger Federer, Switzerland
3. Novak Djokovic, Serbia
4. Andy Murray, Great Britain

5. Robin Soderling, Sweden
6. Nikolay Davydenko, Russia
7. Tomas Berdych, Czech Republic
8. Fernando Verdasco, Spain

9. Andy Roddick, United States
10. David Ferrer, Spain
11. Marin Cilic, Croatia
12. Mikhail Youzhny, Russia
13. Jurgen Melzer, Austria
14. Nicolas Almagro, Spain
15. Ivan Ljubicic, Croatia
16. Marcos Baghdatis, Cyprus

17. Gael Monfils, France
18. John Isner, United States
19. Mardy Fish, United States
20. Sam Querrey, United States
21. Albert Montanes, Spain
22. Juan Carlos Ferrero, Spain
23. Feliciano Lopez, Spain
24. Ernests Gulbis, Latvia
25. Stanislas Wawrinka, Switzerland
26. Thomaz Bellucci, Brazil
27. Fernando Gonzalez, Chile
28. Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic
29. Philipp Kohlschreiber, Germany
30. Juan Monaco, Argentina
31. David Nalbandian, Argentina
32. Lleyton Hewitt, Australia

 

[OddJack]

I guess Rodge is gonna pull Murray this time.

 

[robin7]

Since Del Potro (ranked 10th) and Tsonga (ranked 11th) withdrew, Nalbandian (ranked 33th) and Hewitt (ranked 34th)were promoted to be seeded!

 

[Pwned]

Too bad for Roddick. Verdasco and him should be switched.

 

[Richards19]

Too bad for Roddick. Verdasco and him should be switched.

Agree. Verdasco has overplayed this year and nor he's exhausted

 

[robin7]

Too bad for Roddick. Verdasco and him should be switched.

I have the same thought when I first looked at the seeding. I hope Roddick will meet Verdasco in 4R.

 

[Bryan Swartz]

Why exactly should they be switched?

 

[Pwned]

Why exactly should they be switched?

I believe Roddick just missed being 8. But with an illness Roddick hasn't played his best and his ranking dropped. Verdasco just hasn't played well at all and I haven't heard an excuse for him. Roddick's recent results have also been better.

 

[Commando Tennis Shorts]

Why exactly should they be switched?

Because when the U.S. Open starts, Roddick will be ranked #8 and Verdasco will be ranked #9 b/c of Verdasco losing 250 points from not playing in Pilot Pen, but the seeding will not reflect that. I guess it's not that big a deal b/c Roddick has a pretty good record against #5-8, and he'll make it into the Y-E Championships anyway.

Edit: Let me clarify that I don't think they *should* be switched b/c the rules are the rules when it comes to seeding, and as of this moment right now, Verdasco is #8. I was just pointing out the unique situation of a guy being in the top 8 when the action starts but not being a top 8 seed. It doesn't happen very often.

 

[Bryan Swartz]

Just curious what the reasoning was. I think Roddick is definitely likely to do better than Verdasco -- basically he got his points from the clay season, and on HC it isn't close.

 

[Tshooter]

Better to meet any of 12 through 15 in round one then number 24.

 

[Commando Tennis Shorts]

Just curious what the reasoning was. I think Roddick is definitely likely to do better than Verdasco -- basically he got his points from the clay season, and on HC it isn't close.

The reasoning behind the seeding? The U.S. Open uses the rankings as the seeding. If they didn't, Roddick would probably be #8.

 

[batz]

Because when the U.S. Open starts, Roddick will be ranked #8 and Verdasco will be ranked #9 b/c of Verdasco losing 250 points from not playing in Pilot Pen, but the seeding will not reflect that. I guess it's not that big a deal b/c Roddick has a pretty good record against #5-8, and he'll make it into the Y-E Championships anyway.

Edit: Let me clarify that I don't think they *should* be switched b/c the rules are the rules when it comes to seeding, and as of this moment right now, Verdasco is #8. I was just pointing out the unique situation of a guy being in the top 8 when the action starts but not being a top 8 seed. It doesn't happen very often.

Same thing happened to Murray at the AO this year. He went to number 5 for 1 week. That 1 week just happened to be the week the seeding for the AO was based on. To compound matters, Murray went back to 4 the following week i.e. the day the AO started.

 

[abmk]

Same thing happened to Murray at the AO this year. He went to number 5 for 1 week. That 1 week just happened to be the week the seeding for the AO was based on. To compound matters, Murray went back to 4 the following week i.e. the day the AO started.

proved to be pretty costly for rafa, in it !?

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

So who will have Murray on their half? Roger or Nadal???:shock:

 

[abmk]

So who will have Murray on their half? Roger or Nadal???:shock:

the draw is not yet out ..

 

[TheMusicLover]

So who will have Murray on their half? Roger or Nadal???:shock:

We'll find out in two days' time...
A bit strange, this fuss about whether Murray will-or-won't be on which side. It reminds me of the days, not that long ago, when 'everyone' was making the same statements about Djokovic. Point is, every player has a lot of matches to play before the meeting could even happen, and it's no guarantee than any of them will indeed live up to their seedings. LOTS of lesser gods around being capable of taking any of the top players out, especially at this USO, as to me, neither of the top-4 seem to be in their ultimate best form. I'm expecting quite a few upsets along the route.

 

[batz]

We'll find out in two days' time...
A bit strange, this fuss about whether Murray will-or-won't be on which side. It reminds me of the days, not that long ago, when 'everyone' was making the same statements about Djokovic. Point is, every player has a lot of matches to play before the meeting could even happen, and it's no guarantee than any of them will indeed live up to their seedings. LOTS of lesser gods around being capable of taking any of the top players out, especially at this USO, as to me, neither of the top-4 seem to be in their ultimate best form. I'm expecting quite a few upsets along the route.

Good points, as ever.

When is the draw made?

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

We'll find out in two days' time...
A bit strange, this fuss about whether Murray will-or-won't be on which side. It reminds me of the days, not that long ago, when 'everyone' was making the same statements about Djokovic. Point is, every player has a lot of matches to play before the meeting could even happen, and it's no guarantee than any of them will indeed live up to their seedings. LOTS of lesser gods around being capable of taking any of the top players out, especially at this USO, as to me, neither of the top-4 seem to be in their ultimate best form. I'm expecting quite a few upsets along the route.

I agree with you, but i think that lots of players just bend over for Nadal, especially in Slams so I can see Nadal in a SF no doubt, but i would love to see Murray at the other side of the net. Im positive that Murray will take out Nadal.

 

[TheMusicLover]

Good points, as ever.

When is the draw made?

Thanks. As far as I know, the draw will be made on Thursday. Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

 

[TheMusicLover]

I agree with you, but i think that lots of players just bend over for Nadal, especially in Slams so I can see Nadal in a SF no doubt, but i would love to see Murray at the other side of the net. Im positive that Murray will take out Nadal.

The same 'bending over'-claim has been made in relation to players having to play Fed just the same - at least in the past. Point is, Fedal is just damn hard to beat in the best-of-5 format!
(Well I won't mention the case of Almagro, of course, :lol

I think Nadal will have plenty of work to do before he could even meet Murray - and the same goes for Murray himself. One match at the time!

 

[NADALbULLS]

Nadal hasn't even been stretched to 5 sets the last 2 years at US Open. And if he was you know he isn't going to lose. If Nadal had kept his break in the 4th set in 2008 Semi vs Murray then he'd have won the 5th set. Point is, as others have said, you can't beat Nadal in a best of 5 set format. Last year even with the torn stomach muscle Nadal destroyed Monfils physically.

 

[TheMusicLover]

Nadal hasn't even been stretched to 5 sets the last 2 years at US Open. And if he was you know he isn't going to lose. If Nadal had kept his break in the 4th set in 2008 Semi vs Murray then he'd have won the 5th set. Point is, as others have said, you can't beat Nadal in a best of 5 set format. Last year even with the torn stomach muscle Nadal destroyed Monfils physically.

You are so delusional that it isn't even funny anymore. Nope, he never loses in five, if he loses - it happens in straight sets. Even better, no? :?
Murray was beating Nadal fair-and-square in that match, why is it so hard to admit that??? Nadal is a superb player, but guess what - even those tend to lose a match once in a while. It happens, none of them are Superman.

 

[abmk]

^^^

he loses in straights because it makes him less tired, keeps him fresh :roll:

 

[decades]

We'll find out in two days' time...
A bit strange, this fuss about whether Murray will-or-won't be on which side. It reminds me of the days, not that long ago, when 'everyone' was making the same statements about Djokovic. Point is, every player has a lot of matches to play before the meeting could even happen, and it's no guarantee than any of them will indeed live up to their seedings. LOTS of lesser gods around being capable of taking any of the top players out, especially at this USO, as to me, neither of the top-4 seem to be in their ultimate best form. I'm expecting quite a few upsets along the route.

it's a really big deal this year. I can't remember a time when the #3 player in the world was going into a slam with such low confidence and lousy lead in results. He also has trouble playing in the heat which means he could go out early, opening up that half of the draw even more. You can bet that the first thing Nadal and Fed are going to do is say...where is Murray? And hope they get Djok on their half.

 

[samjones]

Because when the U.S. Open starts, Roddick will be ranked #8 and Verdasco will be ranked #9 b/c of Verdasco losing 250 points from not playing in Pilot Pen, but the seeding will not reflect that. I guess it's not that big a deal b/c Roddick has a pretty good record against #5-8, and he'll make it into the Y-E Championships anyway.

Edit: Let me clarify that I don't think they *should* be switched b/c the rules are the rules when it comes to seeding, and as of this moment right now, Verdasco is #8. I was just pointing out the unique situation of a guy being in the top 8 when the action starts but not being a top 8 seed. It doesn't happen very often.

I believe you to be incorrect. I believe that when Verdasco's Pilot Pen points are dropped then one of the other tournaments that he has played in that are non-countable under the Best of 18 rules will become countable.

His 150 points from the tournament in Nice will then count to his total score, net loss of 100 points, which will mean that he will retain his 8th place ranking over Roddick, albeit not by as wide a margin.

 

[batz]

Nadal hasn't even been stretched to 5 sets the last 2 years at US Open. And if he was you know he isn't going to lose. If Nadal had kept his break in the 4th set in 2008 Semi vs Murray then he'd have won the 5th set. Point is, as others have said, you can't beat Nadal in a best of 5 set format. Last year even with the torn stomach muscle Nadal destroyed Monfils physically.

Perhaps you missed this year's AO?

 

[Serendipitous]

Go MUrray!!!!


and gulbis... :shock :

 

[NADALbULLS]

Perhaps you missed this year's AO?

He lost every big point vs Murray, you could see he was still the 2009-Nadal. The confidence only returned when he reclaimed his Roland Garros crown. Even in the early rounds of Roland Garros apparently it was the most nervous Nadal had ever been, according to one of his interviews.

 

[DMan]

Because when the U.S. Open starts, Roddick will be ranked #8 and Verdasco will be ranked #9 b/c of Verdasco losing 250 points from not playing in Pilot Pen, but the seeding will not reflect that. I guess it's not that big a deal b/c Roddick has a pretty good record against #5-8, and he'll make it into the Y-E Championships anyway.

Edit: Let me clarify that I don't think they *should* be switched b/c the rules are the rules when it comes to seeding, and as of this moment right now, Verdasco is #8. I was just pointing out the unique situation of a guy being in the top 8 when the action starts but not being a top 8 seed. It doesn't happen very often.

Seedings are not rankings. They never have, and never will be. Seedings are and have always been placement in the draw based on likely outcome, i.e., #1 and #2 are considered to be the two strongest players.

All4 majors have the option of deviating from the official computer rankings. It's a shame that they hardly ever do (except for Wimbledon).

Considering how Verdasco has played this summer on hard courts, and his overall record in majors and at the US Open, there is no way he deserves to be seeded #8 at the US Open. Roddick definitely deserves to be seeded #8 ahead of Verdasco, in light of the fact Verdasco will actually be ranked behind Roddick by the time of the Open.

 

[Commando Tennis Shorts]

I believe you to be incorrect. I believe that when Verdasco's Pilot Pen points are dropped then one of the other tournaments that he has played in that are non-countable under the Best of 18 rules will become countable.

His 150 points from the tournament in Nice will then count to his total score, net loss of 100 points, which will mean that he will retain his 8th place ranking over Roddick, albeit not by as wide a margin.

If this is true, thank you for the clarification.

 

[Commando Tennis Shorts]

Seedings are not rankings. They never have, and never will be. Seedings are and have always been placement in the draw based on likely outcome, i.e., #1 and #2 are considered to be the two strongest players.

All4 majors have the option of deviating from the official computer rankings. It's a shame that they hardly ever do (except for Wimbledon).

Considering how Verdasco has played this summer on hard courts, and his overall record in majors and at the US Open, there is no way he deserves to be seeded #8 at the US Open. Roddick definitely deserves to be seeded #8 ahead of Verdasco, in light of the fact Verdasco will actually be ranked behind Roddick by the time of the Open.

Sure they have the option of changing it up, but they won't because they never do.

 

[samjones]

All4 majors have the option of deviating from the official computer rankings. It's a shame that they hardly ever do (except for Wimbledon).

Unfortunately, I can't souce this, but I heard the announcers say at some point that is is official policy of all 3 slams to seed by ranking. So, "no", they don't have the option. They said that the lucky losers, by policy, are also the highest ranked candidates.

The absence of discussion of the Decoturf seeding committee would lead you to believe that this is the case. The grass seeding committee, on the other hand, screwed up royally this year with #1 and #2. Each player was defending his title. Rafa had the higher ranking. Rafa was the one on fire. Rafa was the one who had one their last meeting in Centre Court. Rafa was the eventual champion despite the handicap of being seeded 2.

ATP rankings are pretty objective. It's had to accuse the USTA of favoritism, which most certainly would have happened if they had seeded Andy 8th.

 

[batz]

He lost every big point vs Murray, you could see he was still the 2009-Nadal. The confidence only returned when he reclaimed his Roland Garros crown. Even in the early rounds of Roland Garros apparently it was the most nervous Nadal had ever been, according to one of his interviews.

you don't half post some bollox mate. From Rafa's post match interview after losing to Murray @ AO:

Q. You were talking about your level of play today. When do you think you last played as confidently and as well as you were doing for the first two sets?

RAFAEL NADAL: I think last time was here last year.

Q. Here last year?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Because after that I played well few matches in Indian Wells. But after that started the pain. And after the pain, I didn't play bad, but far away from this level, no? I worked a lot at home. Lot of months working to play at this level now.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2010-01-26/201001261264509928453.html

 

[samjones]

He lost every big point vs Murray, you could see he was still the 2009-Nadal. The confidence only returned when he reclaimed his Roland Garros crown. Even in the early rounds of Roland Garros apparently it was the most nervous Nadal had ever been, according to one of his interviews.

He seemed a might confident when he took the 3 Masters preceding it.

 

[decades]

Nadal hasn't even been stretched to 5 sets the last 2 years at US Open. And if he was you know he isn't going to lose. If Nadal had kept his break in the 4th set in 2008 Semi vs Murray then he'd have won the 5th set. Point is, as others have said, you can't beat Nadal in a best of 5 set format. Last year even with the torn stomach muscle Nadal destroyed Monfils physically.

he hasn't been stretched at USopen because the people who beat him there routinely do it in 4 sets or less. Just ask JMDP, who allowed Nadal but 6 games in 3 of the easiest sets he's ever played at a GS.

 

[NADALbULLS]

he hasn't been stretched at USopen because the people who beat him there routinely do it in 4 sets or less. Just ask JMDP, who allowed Nadal but 6 games in 3 of the easiest sets he's ever played at a GS.

Garbage. Del Potro took 140 minutes to win 6-2 6-2 6-2, and Nadal if you saw the QF vs Gonzo was serving way way soft. His stomach muscle was torn so bad that each match was more painful and later said he couldn't serve to the corners of the box. He only got past Gonzo because Gonzo seemed to have a plane to catch and was plain tanking.

 

[NADALbULLS]

batz, Nadal's match vs Murray was the most aggressive he's ever played on hardcourts. However he lost all the big points, and that is what missing confidence does to you, MATE.

And sam, he did win Masters events before the French Open but we're talking about clay, his confidence isn't required to win big points (which there were few of) in non-slams against guys like Ferrer on clay.

 

[robin7]

It's Draw Day! The 2010 US Open singles draw will be unveiled today at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center during a LIVE broadcast on ESPN2 and streaming at ESPN3.com at 12 pm ET. Will you be tuning in?

 

[NADALbULLS]

It's Draw Day! The 2010 US Open singles draw will be unveiled today at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center during a LIVE broadcast on ESPN2 and streaming at ESPN3.com at 12 pm ET. Will you be tuning in?

Nah I don't mind who draws who, no problema.

 

[batz]

batz, Nadal's match vs Murray was the most aggressive he's ever played on hardcourts. However he lost all the big points, and that is what missing confidence does to you, MATE.

And sam, he did win Masters events before the French Open but we're talking about clay, his confidence isn't required to win big points (which there were few of) in non-slams against guys like Ferrer on clay.

You are delusional, the essence of fanboy.

You seem to think that there is a set of caveats that explain why Rafa hasn't won every match he's played without losing a point - "Rafa would have won that point if only he was fit/rested/healthy/motivated/at the right altitude/on the right surface/confident".

 

[NADALbULLS]

^Nah, I noticed he was losing all the big points in 2009. Even when Nadal was struggling physically vs Del Potro at USO, Nadal had him at 0-40 in the 1st set but couldn't break. Then Del Potro would have one breakpoint and win it.

Year-ending Championship told a similar story, had breakpoints but couldn't convert. The trend continued at the AO vs Murray (Nadal broke Murray at the start of the 1st and 2nd sets but gave the breaks right back with loose play), and it wasn't rectified until he got back on clay. He won the big points (saved all 8 breakpoints Soderling had on him) in the RG Final.

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

You are delusional, the essence of fanboy.

You seem to think that there is a set of caveats that explain why Rafa hasn't won every match he's played without losing a point - "Rafa would have won that point if only he was fit/rested/healthy/motivated/at the right altitude/on the right surface/confident".

Totally agree with you batz, i sure hope Murray will face Nadal in a SF, I`ll put good money on Murray thats for sure!

 

[NADALbULLS]

Totally agree with you batz, i sure hope Murray will face Nadal in a SF, I`ll put good money on Murray thats for sure!

So would I (if I put money on sport), Federer and Murray are the favorites for this USO.