2011 Davis Cup QF-USA vs. ESP

Rickenbacker4003 said:
Well on the bright side, Roddick was deprived of another heartbreaking loss to Feli again, but this time on home turf. :)
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I don't know if that is the bright side. Roddick could have really maneuvered himself out of this massive slump he is in by getting a shot to win the tie for the US.

I think he had a solid chance at beating Lopez.
 
Djoker/Nadal as the fifth rubber and last match of the year in the Davis Cup final, anyone?

Ted Robinson just mentioned this on TC too.....
 
Spain will host France in the semis. I would have loved to see France host USA in Sept though...too bad USA lost, but congrats to Spain - they're too good.
 
Sid_Vicious said:
Honestly, who knew that Roddick would play like a massive mug. He was talking about the Austin DC tie for a while so we figured he will play better and win the tie for the US.
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Yeah, Roddick's been playing like mug for over a year now. I expected it. But yes, he was talking up this tie so you'd think he'd raise his game. Maybe this is the best Andy can offer today. Next time, I'd take Isner and Fish instead of Roddick for the DC.
 
Rickenbacker4003 said:
Yeah, Roddick's been playing like mug for over a year now. I expected it. But yes, he was talking up this tie so you'd think he'd raise his game. Maybe this is the best Andy can offer today. Next time, I'd take Isner and Fish instead of Roddick for the DC.
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Even Ryan Harrison would be an upgrade over Roddick.
 
Roddick is looking pretty ordinary these days. He's getting past his prime it seems like.

Have to hand it David Ferrer he played great this weekend.

I'd almost like to see Courier give some of the up and coming guys a shot - like Ryan Harrison.
 
Sid_Vicious said:
Honestly, who knew that Roddick would play like a massive mug. He was talking about the Austin DC tie for a while so we figured he will play better and win the tie for the US.
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Makes you wonder if Roddick hadn't rolled over on Friday, if it would have helped to make Ferrer play a little bit more, Fish was dying and Ferrer was fresh as a daisy.
 
Are they going to play the last match? No activity on the scoreboard for awhile, not sure if Roddick and Lopez will play?
 
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Overheadsmash said:
Roddick is looking pretty ordinary these days. He's getting past his prime it seems like.

Have to hand it David Ferrer he played great this weekend.

I'd almost like to see Courier give some of the up and coming guys a shot - like Ryan Harrison.
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I was just about to take my 8yo so she could see USA in action. Glad I didn't. He picked Austin and the pressure of playing home after a poor Wimbledon just crushed him. I hope USA never plays Davis cup in a players home town. Play in NY, FLA, DC, LA, one of the bigger cities. AUSTIN? Hope Andy looks at the tape and gets some true advice his game is faltering, and I see no fight in him..
 
lol... losing at home on their favorite surface... imagine if nadal was playing...

this made me laugh...

"I badly wanted to get to the point we could get Andy out there. It just didn't happen," Fish said.

"Andy was ready for the ball. He wanted the ball," Courier said.
 
superjd said:
lol... losing at home on their favorite surface... imagine if nadal was playing...

this made me laugh...

"I badly wanted to get to the point we could get Andy out there. It just didn't happen," Fish said.

"Andy was ready for the ball. He wanted the ball," Courier said.
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Andy had the ball and he fumbled against Ferrer...Maybe US should have taken Isner over Roddick? :?
 
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Tough weekend for Fish, he showed alot of heart though. Ferrer played great as always. Spanish fans showed up well for it and the atmosphere at the Frank Erwin Center was great for all the matches except Roddick's. I still don't understand why there weren't very many people there for his match.
 
If I was Courier, here's my tip to Fish in between games"Run around your forehand!"

What a depressing drive home. I'd rather get my ass wooped in straight sets, then lose a heartbreaker like Fish did.

@least Hope Solo and the USWNT advances:)
 
Roddick and Fish should have served much better on an indoor surface.

In retrospect the USTA should have played this tie on grass and we would have won
 
T21D said:
If I was Courier, here's my tip to Fish in between games"Run around your forehand!"

What a depressing drive home. I'd rather get my ass wooped in straight sets, then lose a heartbreaker like Fish did.

@least Hope Solo and the USWNT advances:)
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Oh god I know :(
I looked back and saw that even if had been able to convert at least half the BP's he had, the match would have been 6-4, 6-2, 6-4 :(
 
Maybe Roddick is just having a bad year, but if not he is really on the decline. He plays a pushers game and doesn't have the power hit through the court. Ferrer is a small guy and he was hitting the ball way harder than Arod. He sits there and hits that cheesy BH slice that bothers no one. Can anyone tell me why he hits that shot? Roddick tries to play a Ferrer style of game but is not nearly as fast and doesn't have the ability to create offense from defensive positions in the court. A rod needs to change his MO on the court or just retire.
 
This is just making me sick.

The United States is really flat when it comes to talent right now, and the Davis Cup teams show it every year. Roddick's on the decline, Fish is eh, and we're leaving our hopes up to the best doubles team in the world every time out. I'd almost like to keep Isner in every tie, just because of his serve(and congrats to him for winning the HOF tourney today. Good to see an American win one), but his court coverage can be incredibly shoddy at times for a 6'9" guy, and he can get whacked himself.

Much as I love my country, and I stick up for my country, something that I read made the most sense. Someone asked about American kids in golf and tennis, and the world, and a person said "The world's kids have everything on their shoulders, and they have a hunger and a drive. Most American kids will lose a tennis tourney, or miss a putt in a golf tournament to lose it, and get back in their B***".

Far be it for me to bash anyone with a Bimmer, I root for anyone that wants to be that successful. That said, that's a perfect point. Our kids don't have a lot of hunger and drive. Sampras was our last American #1 I think, and that was, what, 8 years ago?
 
Why didn't Roddick and Lopez play? In all of the other quarterfinals, we got five matches (some of them three-set) even when the result was no longer in doubt. Did Roddick not want to play? Is it a decision both countries make? It would have been nice to give Andy a chance to win in front of his hometown crowd. I'd think he wouldn't feel the pressure and could actually play up to his level... or maybe he'd just be bummed out and fail worse than the other night.

Either way, the Davis Cup site kept hinting the match was coming up despite it being canceled. I kept refreshing the page at work, but it ended up being the most mysterious missing rubber since Levi Johnson came home to Bristol Palin with a bottle of Boones Farm the night their little mistake was conceived.
 
I wouldn't doubt that Roddick was probably too bummed to play the dead rubber. Has Andy ever played a dead rubber at a DC tie before? Of course, that doesn't exempt him from playing (if he was being a brat about it)...but maybe it was a mutual decision from both teams.
 
powerangle said:
I wouldn't doubt that Roddick was probably too bummed to play the dead rubber. Has Andy ever played a dead rubber at a DC tie before? Of course, that doesn't exempt him from playing (if he was being a brat about it)...but maybe it was a mutual decision from both teams.
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I don't think that should be allowed. All of the countries played five rubbers. Roddick should have gone out and played; that's why the good people of Austin showed up. At the very least, send Granollers and one of the Bryans out there for a three-setter.
 
Not Playing 5th Rubber did they Give Refunds!

jakemcclain32 said:
This is just making me sick.

The United States is really flat when it comes to talent right now, and the Davis Cup teams show it every year. Roddick's on the decline, Fish is eh, and we're leaving our hopes up to the best doubles team in the world every time out. I'd almost like to keep Isner in every tie, just because of his serve(and congrats to him for winning the HOF tourney today. Good to see an American win one), but his court coverage can be incredibly shoddy at times for a 6'9" guy, and he can get whacked himself.

Much as I love my country, and I stick up for my country, something that I read made the most sense. Someone asked about American kids in golf and tennis, and the world, and a person said "The world's kids have everything on their shoulders, and they have a hunger and a drive. Most American kids will lose a tennis tourney, or miss a putt in a golf tournament to lose it, and get back in their B***".

Far be it for me to bash anyone with a Bimmer, I root for anyone that wants to be that successful. That said, that's a perfect point. Our kids don't have a lot of hunger and drive. Sampras was our last American #1 I think, and that was, what, 8 years ago?
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Yea you are right. No Desire to play the 5th Match is a great example of why the US is falling behind.

powerangle said:
I wouldn't doubt that Roddick was probably too bummed to play the dead rubber. Has Andy ever played a dead rubber at a DC tie before? Of course, that doesn't exempt him from playing (if he was being a brat about it)...but maybe it was a mutual decision from both teams.
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I'm glad I didn't fork over Plane Tickets/Hotel/meals/My TIME/ and Cost of the EVENT. I would be infuriated!:evil:
 
I'm not sure Roddicks ground game is top 100 right now. Loads of pushy slices, lame junk ball approaches, no power on the forehand. Would be totally dead if it weren't for the serve and even that isn't what it was. Time to retire.
 
jakemcclain32 said:
This is just making me sick.

The United States is really flat when it comes to talent right now, and the Davis Cup teams show it every year. Roddick's on the decline, Fish is eh, and we're leaving our hopes up to the best doubles team in the world every time out. I'd almost like to keep Isner in every tie, just because of his serve(and congrats to him for winning the HOF tourney today. Good to see an American win one), but his court coverage can be incredibly shoddy at times for a 6'9" guy, and he can get whacked himself.

Much as I love my country, and I stick up for my country, something that I read made the most sense. Someone asked about American kids in golf and tennis, and the world, and a person said "The world's kids have everything on their shoulders, and they have a hunger and a drive. Most American kids will lose a tennis tourney, or miss a putt in a golf tournament to lose it, and get back in their B***".

Far be it for me to bash anyone with a Bimmer, I root for anyone that wants to be that successful. That said, that's a perfect point. Our kids don't have a lot of hunger and drive. Sampras was our last American #1 I think, and that was, what, 8 years ago?
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Roddick was number 1 for a little while in 2003, but nobody even thinks of that anymore....
 
stingstang said:
I'm not sure Roddicks ground game is top 100 right now. Loads of pushy slices, lame junk ball approaches, no power on the forehand. Would be totally dead if it weren't for the serve and even that isn't what it was. Time to retire.
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Andy Roddick is on a decline. He has not a bad year, rather two in a row. He hasn't reached a QF of a GS in the last 6 tries. And he is hanging onto that top 10 spot in ranking by a slim 5 points.
 
Bummer! I was hoping Mardy would have got past Ferrer so that we could have had a potentially thrilling decider between A-Rod and Deliciano.On top of everything else,Andy would have been looking for revenge for Wimbledon so that would have added extra spice to their encounter.But it wasn't to be,sigh!!

Is it just me or did neither Fish nor Roddick seem very pumped up for the occasion? I know they fought hard and both had lots of break point chances but they just couldn't capitalize on any of them and both seemed to be missing that little bit extra! Why? Too many passive/negative vibes from Jim Courier? Why was he sat there dressed like he was late for a business meeting or something??
 
seminoleG said:
Yea you are right. No Desire to play the 5th Match is a great example of why the US is falling behind.

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I was there. I've been at some dead 5th rubbers. I was disappointed in the whole scene.

But as with you as I am, the crowd would not have been there. You should have seen how many people left Friday night after Roddick lost the first set.

Yesterday, the 5th rubber did not matter to the team. It did not matter to the fans.

I blame America's decline on the scene in Meatballs...Bill Murray's Oscar clip, a soliloquy not unlike Belushi's in Animal House, in which he had everyone chanting, "It Just Doesn't Matter...It Just Doesn't Matter...!"

It took a generation and a half for it to take hold, but that sentiment has become endemic in the American psyche.
 
slice bh compliment said:
I was there. I've been at some dead 5th rubbers. I was disappointed in the whole scene.

But as with you as I am, the crowd would not have been there. You should have seen how many people left Friday night after Roddick lost the first set.

Yesterday, the 5th rubber did not matter to the team. It did not matter to the fans.

I blame America's decline on the scene in Meatballs...Bill Murray's Oscar clip, a soliloquy not unlike Belushi's in Animal House, in which he had everyone chanting, "It Just Doesn't Matter...It Just Doesn't Matter...!"

It took a generation and a half for it to take hold, but that sentiment has become endemic in the American psyche.
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I saw lots of empty seats, but this sold out in MINUTES? Was it Ticket Brokers buying them up?

And Yes this is why it shouldn't have been in Austin. There are better Pockets of Tennis Fans that would have been just as vocal in other parts of US.
 
It was great to attend this tie, but I wish we would have won. We sure had our chances, especially Fish. He did so well at holding serve, but his break point conversion percentage has to be really low. Hopefully, that is something he can work on. The other thing I saw about Fish is that it seemed like he won a huge percentage of points when he approached the net, yet did so only sparingly. I kept wondering why.

The Bryans were great of course, never losing serve. But I thought they would win more convincingly against two clay court singles specialists. Not complaining though.

Roddick just seems to have lost something, some edge, some heart, some sting. Playing on a favorable surface in his home town with a partisan crowd didn't seem to help at all. It's like he's become Fabrice Santoro with a serve - good enough to beat a lot of players, but not the big boys. Last time I saw him play Davis Cup, in Portland 2007, he also bailed on the Sunday match.
 
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