2011 NBA Playoffs

Who will be the 2011 NBA Champion?


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baek57

Professional
Don't know what the hype is about that dunk. It didn't look all that great to me. 6'9 forward running down the lane with a 2 handed dunk over a shorter 6'4 guard. Now if it were the other way around that would be different.
 

pepka

Professional
^ It can't be Bron, video and pics are still out there ;-) Great game by the Bulls but Miami will bounce back and i think they will take game #2:evil: Deng had a good game (which is the key for this series like i said). Barkley picking Chicago is like a kiss of death, dude is clueless most of the time (to his credit he did pick the Dallas against LA though) ;-)
 

pepka

Professional
WindhorstESPN said:
Bosh outscored Rose, Heat outshot Bulls & outscored them in paint, MIA didn't miss a FT...and Bulls stomped Heat 103-82 in Game 1.
That got me thinking. Chicago needs to play even better and Boozer HAS to play some D on Christina!!!
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Bosh outscored Rose, Heat outshot Bulls & outscored them in paint, MIA didn't miss a FT...and Bulls stomped Heat 103-82 in Game 1
Yea Bosh also outscored Wade & Lebron significantly (in fact doubled LBJ's count?)

I have no idea if that has happened before (playofff or reg.season) but I thought it was odd
 

mightyrick

Legend
Yea Bosh also outscored Wade & Lebron significantly (in fact doubled LBJ's count?)

I have no idea if that has happened before (playofff or reg.season) but I thought it was odd
That's because LeBron is horrible in half-court. He's only good doing a run-and-gun style of offense.

I actually thought that Barkley, Kenny, and Webber pointed out the difference between the two teams and why the Bulls are going to win...: The Heat are a 1-on-1 team and they don't really run plays. They have two modes: 1) try to fastbreak into two points, or 2) Get into a set and start trying to shuck-and-jive and get to the hole. There is no real play calling. And that's not going to work.

The Bulls are a full team, very deep, and most of the time... all they do is run plays. The coach is out there signaling plays. They even have plays on defense -- switch coverages -- weak-side coverage. They are really amazing.

I think this series is over in six -- if it even goes that far.
 

billsgwn

Banned
Don't know what the hype is about that dunk. It didn't look all that great to me. 6'9 forward running down the lane with a 2 handed dunk over a shorter 6'4 guard. Now if it were the other way around that would be different.

Its very obvious you never played basketball beyond say, junior high with that comment.
 

tennismonkey

Semi-Pro
bulls in the second half looked really good. and for stretches looked like there defense was impregnable. what i want to see is if lebron and wade had a bad game or if the bulls made them have a bad game. we'll see game 2.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
That's because LeBron is horrible in half-court. He's only good doing a run-and-gun style of offense.

I actually thought that Barkley, Kenny, and Webber pointed out the difference between the two teams and why the Bulls are going to win...: The Heat are a 1-on-1 team and they don't really run plays. They have two modes: 1) try to fastbreak into two points, or 2) Get into a set and start trying to shuck-and-jive and get to the hole. There is no real play calling. And that's not going to work.

The Bulls are a full team, very deep, and most of the time... all they do is run plays. The coach is out there signaling plays. They even have plays on defense -- switch coverages -- weak-side coverage.
In that case the big blame goes to................ Spoelstra or Riley? :D
 

pepka

Professional
bulls in the second half looked really good. and for stretches looked like there defense was impregnable. what i want to see is if lebron and wade had a bad game or if the bulls made them have a bad game. we'll see game 2.
I think it's a bit of both. Bulls D is great but i still can't see them keeping James and Wade under 20 for the series. They need to focus on Christina who is softer than Charmin.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
^ What on earth are you talking about? When exactly was this "everytime" yer referring to?

Lookin at it from a distance it seems everyone agrees it's Lebron's fault.

Or the more "informed" ones spread the blame to include teammates: Bosh is bad, Wade is whatever and the bench is wretch... etc
.
 
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hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I didnt think the dunk itself was as great as people are saying. It was still impressive and a great play, anytime a guy gets a runnnig start on a man with his back turned and the defende is giving up 5 inches it will end like that.

The impressive part was the guy who duped wade into committing and made the pass to gibson.

I also give props to wade for contesting that dunk. Most players in the spot will just bail out so they dont get posterized.
 
I didnt think the dunk itself was as great as people are saying. It was still impressive and a great play, anytime a guy gets a runnnig start on a man with his back turned and the defende is giving up 5 inches it will end like that.

The impressive part was the guy who duped wade into committing and made the pass to gibson.

I also give props to wade for contesting that dunk. Most players in the spot will just bail out so they dont get posterized.
Yeah but contesting the dunk caused an and 1...in that case it might've been better to just bail out, since he had slim to no shot at blocking Gibson.

That got me thinking. Chicago needs to play even better and Boozer HAS to play some D on Christina!!!
Boozer isn't going to be guarding Bosh, Noah will more often than not.

Bosh got a lot of putbacks and garbage baskets. He can still be contained, heck I bet Chicago would rather have him go for 30 if it means Bron and Wade are held in check.
 
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baek57

Professional
I didnt think the dunk itself was as great as people are saying. It was still impressive and a great play, anytime a guy gets a runnnig start on a man with his back turned and the defende is giving up 5 inches it will end like that.

The impressive part was the guy who duped wade into committing and made the pass to gibson.

I also give props to wade for contesting that dunk. Most players in the spot will just bail out so they dont get posterized.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Not to mention it was a 3 on 1 fast break.
 

georgerou

Banned
I didnt think the dunk itself was as great as people are saying. It was still impressive and a great play, anytime a guy gets a runnnig start on a man with his back turned and the defende is giving up 5 inches it will end like that.

The impressive part was the guy who duped wade into committing and made the pass to gibson.

I also give props to wade for contesting that dunk. Most players in the spot will just bail out so they dont get posterized.


I cant think of that many times where a 6'5 guy with close to a 40" inch vertical gets posterized like that. Maybe you guys think its easy but if it was, it would be happening all the time.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I cant think of that many times where a 6'5 guy with close to a 40" inch vertical gets posterized like that. Maybe you guys think its easy but if it was, it would be happening all the time.
It does not happen much becasue most of the time those shotas are not contested by a defender. Like I said give wade props for even contesting the dunk. most guys will step aside and just let the guy dunk it.

C.J Watson did a great job of waiting until Wade committed before dumping off to Taj.

I will take a 6'9" super athltic guy running towards the rim over a 6'4" super athletic guy backpedaling who has to set his feet and jump any day.

See what happens when the offensive guy has to stop and set his feet and the defender has a nice running start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORT-NtRiQm0

The Gibson dunk was awesome, but people are overreactting. Gibson did not Tom Chambers Wade.

http://youtu.be/kAmjLaHf1h8

http://youtu.be/V7T_Wg5ilo8
 

billsgwn

Banned
It does not happen much becasue most of the time those shotas are not contested by a defender. Like I said give wade props for even contesting the dunk. most guys will step aside and just let the guy dunk it.

C.J Watson did a great job of waiting until Wade committed before dumping off to Taj.

I will take a 6'9" super athltic guy running towards the rim over a 6'4" super athletic guy backpedaling who has to set his feet and jump any day.

See what happens when the offensive guy has to stop and set his feet and the defender has a nice running start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORT-NtRiQm0

The Gibson dunk was awesome, but people are overreactting. Gibson did not Tom Chambers Wade.

http://youtu.be/kAmjLaHf1h8

http://youtu.be/V7T_Wg5ilo8


I dont think anyone thinks its close to the Tom Chambers dunk but it was a nice facial. If youre waiting for another Tom Chambers dunk to give someone some props then you are gonna be waiting a while. That dunk was probably 20 years ago and I dont think many if any on a fast break still are better than his.
 
Look I'm not going to say it was the greatest dunk ever, but it was a great dunk. It was a great play. And Wade got posterized. Anytime someone gets poserized people are going to get hyped about it. Let's just leave it at that and move on to Game 2. I don't understand the 'it's not as great as people are saying' argument. Sure comparing it to a Jordan dunk is overboard, but most people are just loving it b/c Wade got posterized. What's so wrong with that?
 
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georgerou

Banned
Can you believe in the press conference that Dwayne Wade tried to blame the Heats bench for last nights loss? Did he forget that he and Lebron only added up for 33 points? Looks like Lebrons rubbing off on him now.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
It was a great dunk. But I hate when they treat that dunk like there is somethign D Wade could have done to prevent it from happening. He had to commit to CJ and when he did was out of position to defend the trail man.

Most players weould have ducked out of the way. D Wade who has some at least went up to try do something. Even though the resistance was futile.

The Heat lost that game becaue they could keep the Bulls from getting the offensive ballboards. That has a good bit to do with the bench. If they can grab ballboards and kick out they can run the transition game lot more.

And whenever I have an excuse to link to Tom Chambers dunk I take that oppurtunity everytime.

 
^^^The Heat don't have the size to match up w/ CHI's big guys' athleticism. Noah's a big guy that can guard anyone on the court, same w/ Gibson. Even Asik was guarding LeBron at times last night.

Barkley said it best, unless Miami goes out and gets Dwight Howard for this series its going to be hard for them to match up w/ that aspect of the game. Going small and playing LeBron at PF isn't going to cut it. Miami's best hope seems to be to hope the Big 3 drops 70 ppg and do enough defensively to stop Chicago.

RE: The dunk - in that situation the best thing Wade could have done was foul hard and send Gibson to the line for 2 shots, not go up to try and block a guy 5 inches taller than him and give up the and 1.
 

billsgwn

Banned
It was a great dunk. But I hate when they treat that dunk like there is somethign D Wade could have done to prevent it from happening. He had to commit to CJ and when he did was out of position to defend the trail man.

Most players weould have ducked out of the way. D Wade who has some at least went up to try do something. Even though the resistance was futile.

The Heat lost that game becaue they could keep the Bulls from getting the offensive ballboards. That has a good bit to do with the bench. If they can grab ballboards and kick out they can run the transition game lot more.

And whenever I have an excuse to link to Tom Chambers dunk I take that oppurtunity everytime.


Without a doubt the Tom Chambers dunk is the best dunk by a white guy ever. The dude probably has half the top 10 dunks by a white guy if you include the ones he got while at Univ of Utah.
 

Kevin T

Hall of Fame
Without a doubt the Tom Chambers dunk is the best dunk by a white guy ever. The dude probably has half the top 10 dunks by a white guy if you include the ones he got while at Univ of Utah.
Chambers was a pimp back in the day. And you're probably right about Chambers having 1/2 of the best white dude dunks ever. The other half goes to Dan Majerle. :)
 

Tyrus

Professional
^^^The Heat don't have the size to match up w/ CHI's big guys' athleticism. Noah's a big guy that can guard anyone on the court, same w/ Gibson. Even Asik was guarding LeBron at times last night.

Barkley said it best, unless Miami goes out and gets Dwight Howard for this series its going to be hard for them to match up w/ that aspect of the game. Going small and playing LeBron at PF isn't going to cut it. Miami's best hope seems to be to hope the Big 3 drops 70 ppg and do enough defensively to stop Chicago.
Did you also see where Barkley said the bulls were the best defensive team he's seen in the NBA? or...something along that line...

As far as im concerned, if Bosh can score 30 (which he won't every game) and we still get the best looking win of the Playoffs for the Bulls...i'll take it.

Looking forward to a great series.

On to the West, Whats your pick? I say Dallas in 6, while OKC makes it interesting again.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Did you also see where Barkley said the bulls were the best defensive team he's seen in the NBA? or...something along that line...
I was watching TNT when Barkley said this, too. I'm not sure if he meant "of all time"... or the best since he'd been playing. But that is a big compliment coming from Barkley... for sure.

In my memory, the greatest defenses I've ever seen were the Pistons of the 80s and the Knicks of the early 90s.

This Bulls team plays great defense, but I'm not so sure it is as great as the Heat make them look. The Heat have no real half-court game, so it makes the Bulls look like defensive geniuses. The Lakers would have been a better matchup for the Bulls. Maybe Orlando.

It's a fun theoretical discussion to have, though.

As far as im concerned, if Bosh can score 30 (which he won't every game) and we still get the best looking win of the Playoffs for the Bulls...i'll take it.

Looking forward to a great series.

On to the West, Whats your pick? I say Dallas in 6, while OKC makes it interesting again.
Your question wasn't directed at me. But I also say Dallas in 6. In the Finals, I think it will be Bulls and Mavericks. And the Mavs will win it in 6. It will be a great matchup.

In the end, I just don't see an answer to Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler in the paint. Their presence in the half-court set will make the Bulls have to double and give up the perimeter. And the Mavs are too deep on perimeter shooters and slashers. Way too deep. Jason Terry, Stojakovic, Marion, Kidd. And reports are saying that saying Caron Butler might come back in time.

It will be fun to watch for sure, though.
 

IvanYentl

Rookie
In the end, I just don't see an answer to Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler in the paint.

It will be fun to watch for sure, though.
I'm going to back up a bit and take OKC over Dallas due to the Nowitzki choke factor and the Durant greatness factor (spiced with the Westbrook greatness factor).

When OKC is on I tune in. Such an exciting team to watch and Durant is just exceptional. I think, unfortunately, Nowitzki will choke bigtime somewhere along the line -- quite literally ON the line. Whether his rep as a choke artist is deserved or not, it will play a part simply because many fans believe he is a choker.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Thats why i like watching old Tim Hardaway highlights. I still think he was the best natural ball-handler to ever play. He was super quick and all his moves were also technically still legal. Iverson got credit for his crossover but he carried the ball Hardaway did not.
 

CCNM

Hall of Fame
"DAAAAA Bulls, da Bulls, da Bulls, da Bulls....."
"DAAAAA Mavs, da Mavs, da Mavs, da Mavs....."
Also, I know Sir Charles Barkley doesn't have a say in this but TNT/NBA TV needs to keep Kevin McHale on as a commentator-he is very entertaining. (Note to Houston-PLEASE don't hire him)
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
"DAAAAA Bulls, da Bulls, da Bulls, da Bulls....."
"DAAAAA Mavs, da Mavs, da Mavs, da Mavs....."
Also, I know Sir Charles Barkley doesn't have a say in this but TNT/NBA TV needs to keep Kevin McHale on as a commentator-he is very entertaining. (Note to Houston-PLEASE don't hire him)
McHale was/is great on NBA tv during the season. Can watch the highlight shows with live cut-ins all night long.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
mavs are gonna take the thunder in 6.. you heard it here first
I wouldn't pencil the Mavericks into the NBA Finals so fast, but the Mavericks definitely are favored in that series.

Rooting for OKC though, just because I hate the Mavericks almost as much as the Lakers and Spurs.
 
Man this is some horrible officiating...I don't have a rooting interest either way, but it seems as if any time they breathe on Dirk its a foul. Joey Crawford is ruining this game.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Man this is some horrible officiating...I don't have a rooting interest either way, but it seems as if any time they breathe on Dirk its a foul. Joey Crawford is ruining this game.
It's actually just bad defending. You can't just body bump Dirk and block his progress in the post. That is rookie defense. A good defender has to move his feet, dig in the elbow, and allow the post man to back down, and then challenge the shot. Look at videos of Charles Barkley do this. He was a fantastic post defender.

OKC's big issue is that they really don't have any super experienced post defenders.
 
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