2011 Novak Djokovic is the best tennis player of all time.

Federev

Hall of Fame
In your opinion it is. In my opinion and in the mind of the greats of the game (those who have won 4 Slams or more, and who have a better idea than anyone on here of how to win a Slam), it is not. For one thing, 2006's competition that year was forgettable compared to 2011 where he redlined for months against a very formidable field.
The greats of the game?

You left out a couple.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
It's amazing how Novak 2011 is on such a pedestal bc he took people by surprise and dominated. Fed 06 was easily more impressive, but he'd already been dominant since 04 so it gets overlooked. Nadal 2008, 10, 13 were great as well, but again, they weren't such a shock. Ultron was getting his booty handed to him, then he FINALLY beat his daddy in a slam and fanboys came in their pants and it was sooooo amazing o_O
Salty, MN, Salty!!! :D
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
The greats of the game?

You left out a couple.
I guess a few are missing but maybe I can add a few great's opinions from TTW in their place...? :D It's crazy how much more the greats on here know about tennis compared to the guys who gave blood, sweat and tears in actually winning the tournaments instead of watching them.
 

axlrose

Professional
LOL truth is bitter, deal with it
Not sure what the difference is between those two terms....but my point stands. Federer beat Nole at the French Open and was only 1 point away in the US Open - despite being 4 year on from his peak. That tells me that no, it wasn't the best ever standard.
Could you please show us your nomination for that title?
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
I agree that 2011 Novak was probably the single greatest season ever. But I disagree with the idea that no one else would stand a chance against him.

29-30 year old Federer got him once and almost got him twice. And that wasn't even peak Fed.

Peak Sampras would also handle him on grass and faster HC.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
I agree that 2011 Novak was probably the single greatest season ever. But I disagree with the idea that no one else would stand a chance against him.

29-30 year old Federer got him once and almost got him twice. And that wasn't even peak Fed.

Peak Sampras would also handle him on grass and faster HC.
I would prefer to compare three slam years over the past 25 years or so and leave it at that. All of them, for all the players involved, have been amazingly impressive.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
The OP is correct. Fanboys of TTW will not like it but the greats of the game have more or less agreed on this. If I had to pick one player to play for my life, and it was a random surface, I would pick Djokovic 2011 without a doubt.

Sampras:
“At least in my lifetime, the best ever”, Sampras told the Palm Beach Post. He also labeled it “one of the best achievements in all of sports.”


McEnroe:
“Novak has taken tennis to new heights”, said the American.
“Djokovic is having the greatest year in the history of our sport, there’s no doubt about it”, he said. “He bewildered Nadal. I’ve never seen Nadal look as if he doesn’t know what to do – and even on clay in Rome Djokovic made him look like that.”

“Wimbledon was where he separated himself and took himself to a whole new level. He beat Nadal six times in one year and, considering the year Nadal had in 2010, that’s pretty hard to do.”

Courier:
“Novak has two guys who have won double-digit majors, and they are both healthy, and he’s still dominating them”, said Jim Courier, the United States Davis Cup captain and a former world no.1. “That’s what’s most impressive about this season, probably.”

Federer did not have two men of his stature to manhandle at his peak. Djokovic has two players of superior stature to underscore his state of grace. “That’s why this feels more astounding to me”, Courier said.



Connors:
"What he has done in the last year, not only with his game, but his conditioning, I don't know what it is. I don't even know if he knows what it is. But if he could bottle that and sell it, it would be unbelievable."


Becker:
"This man has produced arguably the greatest season in tennis history."
you best hope that surface isn't anything but slow HC :D
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
peak Safin, who's peak lasted for about 5 hours :DD
Peak Safin lasted for more than that. In 2000 he won the USO and was no.1 and he finally found a consistent level in late 2004-early 2005, level which brought him 2 masters, a slam and a semi at the WTF. Only peak Federer beat him in this period in the WTF semi and was very close to doing it again in the AO semi.

He just got injured after that and that was all she wrote.

Although peak Safin did retun for a brief while at 2008 Wimb. His last true great run.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Peak Safin lasted for more than that. In 2000 he won the USO and was no.1 and he finally found a consistent level in late 2004-early 2005, level which brought him 2 masters, a slam and a semi at the WTF. Only peak Federer beat him in this period in the WTF semi and was very close to doing it again in the AO semi.

He just got injured after that and that was all she wrote.

Although peak Safin did retun for a brief while at 2008 Wimb. His last true great run.
Loved his game, it's too bad he didn't acheive more, but the Maestro took so many accomplishments from guys like him and Roddick/Hewitt.
 

3lite

Professional
Loved his game, it's too bad he didn't acheive more, but the Maestro took so many accomplishments from guys like him and Roddick/Hewitt.
Buddy, the likes of JDP/Wawrinka/Berdych/Dimitrov would take titles from those two clowns.
 

Jonas78

Legend
Buddy, the likes of JDP/Wawrinka/Berdych/Dimitrov would take titles from those two clowns.
Too bad Roddick the clown has the winning record over Djokovic then:p... But of course that wasnt PEEEAAK-Nole. Peak-Nole can't be beaten of course, so the logic is easy; if Nole loses it isnt peak-Nole because peak-Nole can't lose?
 

3lite

Professional
Too bad Roddick the clown has the winning record over Djokovic then:p... But of course that wasnt PEEEAAK-Nole. Peak-Nole can't be beaten of course, so the math is easy no; if Nole lose it isnt peak-Nole because peak-Nole can't lose?
1. Roddick retired in 2009.
2. Forget Peak Nole, he didn't even face gluten-free Nole.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Buddy, the likes of JDP/Wawrinka/Berdych/Dimitrov would take titles from those two clowns.
Idk, Roddick/Hewitt are multi-slam finalists. Federer took 3 Wimbledon's from Roddick, 2 From Rafa, and countless matches from Hewitt and Safin, it's crazy.
 

Jonas78

Legend
1. Roddick retired in 2009.
2. Forget Peak Nole, he didn't even face gluten-free Nole.
Ny main point is...

Its very easy to find "proof" in tennis that support your point of view. There are tons of specialists and former top-players that dont agree. And by subjectively arguing when he and he peaked, and when was weak/strong era, its easy to find support for your view. Just look at the totally different view on the world of tennis among the different fanbases. People will never ever agree. Its ok to have a subjective view, but what makes me sick is when someone tries to make it an objective thruth ("all specialists say" etc...)
 
Obviously no.

The AO-RG stretch specifically - the legendary winning streak - is the best in the Open Era along with McEnroe's 1984 streak. Afterwards, throughout Wimbledon-USO, Djokovic was still in prime winning form, but not the destroyer of worlds he had been. And then injury got the better of him and he crashed out for the remainder of the season.

McEnroe has the most dominant season in the OE, so it's got to be the highest season level.
 

skaj

Hall of Fame
Peak Safin lasted for more than that. In 2000 he won the USO and was no.1 and he finally found a consistent level in late 2004-early 2005, level which brought him 2 masters, a slam and a semi at the WTF. Only peak Federer beat him in this period in the WTF semi and was very close to doing it again in the AO semi.

He just got injured after that and that was all she wrote.

Although peak Safin did retun for a brief while at 2008 Wimb. His last true great run.
what do you mean only Federer beat him in this period, what period? late 2004-early 2005? that is only 3-4 tournaments, which is not much(he also lost to other people in that period), and that was my point - that he was never consistent and only played great tennis in very short time intervals.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Obviously no.

The AO-RG stretch specifically - the legendary winning streak - is the best in the Open Era along with McEnroe's 1984 streak. Afterwards, throughout Wimbledon-USO, Djokovic was still in prime winning form, but not the destroyer of worlds he had been. And then injury got the better of him and he crashed out for the remainder of the season.

McEnroe has the most dominant season in the OE, so it's got to be the highest season level.
So now it is winning percentage We are looking at?
 

Sabratha

Talk Tennis Guru
Buddy, the likes of JDP/Wawrinka/Berdych/Dimitrov would take titles from those two clowns.
Old man Hewitt lead the H2H against peak Del Potro you clown and also caused problems for Wawrinka at times too.

Berdych is about equal to a guy like Henman and Hewitt dominated second tier guys like that.

Dimitrov is about equal to Lapentti or something lmao.

Hewitt is a tad below Murray and Roddick is a tad below Hewitt.

Also Hewitt only lost to Fed for like 2 years straight making countless QF, SF and F runs in the process, keeping a ranking between 2-5.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Also 2015 Novak for sure should be in the convo aswell. He did a even better season than 2011 if we are going by achievements, and also the best season ever.
 

Sabratha

Talk Tennis Guru
Also 2015 Novak for sure should be in the convo aswell. He did a even better season than 2011 if we are going by achievements, and also the best season ever.
Yeah he had a better season because he had crappier competition.

Fed wasn't peaking with 7-8k points as a 34-35 year old then either before you claim so derp.
 

User123

Hall of Fame
His 2011 was not all that special IMO.
Beat by Fed at RG and outplayed at USO.
I was more impressed by his 2015 level.
Lol, 2015 Djokovic wouldn't have won anything in 2011 competition. Almost choking a set from 4-0 up against Nadal who could hardly hit the ball over the net is what made you impressed? :oops:
 
So now it is winning percentage We are looking at?
The question was not the greatest season, but the highest level displayed in a single season, for which winning percentage is key indeed. I've no problem acknowledging Djokester's 15 was greater than Fredr's 06 because of the former's better title haul, and Laver's 69 was greater than both regardless of his 88% win percentage (Laver played I think 36 tournaments including many 8-man ones between top players - completely different from the modern tour structure).
 

NeverQuit

Rookie
Lol, 2015 Djokovic wouldn't have won anything in 2011 competition. Almost choking a set from 4-0 up against Nadal who could hardly hit the ball over the net is what made you impressed? :oops:
Yes his serve really improved and was consistently hitting deep off both wings.
Superb defence and transition to offence.
Only thing 2011 has over 2015 is the backhand DTL.
 

ADuck

Hall of Fame
IMO the best tennis season of the 21st century. But was his peak the best ever? Eh, probably not.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
It is clear you didn't follow this forum for long if you think he is a Federer fan. No idea what his RF means but he is a Djokovic fan.
I'm not posing anything. I always praise Federer. Not my fault you people take it as a bad thing when I praise his high level.
 
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