Discussion in 'Strings' started by TW Staff, Jan 9, 2012.
And I am officially a blue member
Tension it is strung (please note if strung as hybrid or full set): Hybrid WBS in mains (54lbs) and nat gut crosses (59lbs)
Your regular string set up: SPPP, Cyberflash, Prosproblack in mains and nat gut crosses.
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Wilson K Tour team FX
Power (or lack there of): Average power
Feel: Good feel
Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension): Average
Overall comments and feedback:
A solid string with good feel and decent power. Didn't feel like I got as much spin as I normally do with SPPP.
Tension it is strung (please note if strung as hybrid or full set): Full set at 53 lbs.
Your regular string set up: Klip Kboom 16 in main. Gosen Micro in the crosses.
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Black Racquet
Power (or lack there of): Less than average power
Feel: Pretty decent feel. Easy spin. Fun dropshots.
Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension): Mediocre
Overall comments and feedback:
I played a few hours today at the local club. Hard courts if it matters. I strung it up last night on a Gamma dropweight. 53 lbs. The string was in a Black racquet. Sort of a double playtest. During the playtest, I used a Head vibration damp. My overall reactions are that it's an okay string, though I wouldn't buy it myself. Nothing amazing about it. Just like any other poly. I must say it is a very "pretty" string. Bonus points there.
so im guessing i didnt get into the play test this time =(
Received the strings yesterday, and strung them up at 55 lbs. in a Wilson K Six One Team on a KlipperMate. Strung up like a poly. Weaving was harder than Golden Set Snake Bite. Will play today with them.
Just got it today and I will have a review on it soon.
I got my set on Friday and promptly installed it. Details below:
Tension: 52# (full set) on Gamma Lock-Out
Your regular string set up: TF BlackCode and OG Micro 17 @ 52#
Racquet: Head YouTek Prestige Pro
Feel: Medium as well
Tension maintenance: Average for a Poly
Overall comments and feedback: It is stiff and has coil memory typical of most Polys. Overall, the thin gauge and stiff feel give the string a firm/crisp feel....similar to Sonic Pro 17g.
Groundies, volleys and serves felt controllable and predictable.
I don't think I would abandon my current setup for this string but would consider it as a decent "go to" if I was out of the normal setup.
Just finished stringing it as a hybrid as mains on my Klippermate. Like everyone said It's a poly because It didn't stretch. Painful to string and the knots were painful too. Strings were slippery so I had to wrap it around twice before tensioning. Going to test it out tommorow .
I've got about 2 hours on the string so far. It feels a lot like a first gen poly except slightly softer. Low power. Nothing particularly interesting.
Did not receive a set in the mail :<
I guess I didnt make it
I swear I sent the email right when it was posted.
I emailed them the same day when it was posted, Im guessing the huge snow storm I had delayed the mail and now MLK day delayed the mail again. ill look for it tomorrow
Or could be the postman just broke some strings and...
That's why I live in Arizona Close to TW office and no snow. Great place to live.
Ok, here is my initial review after 2 hours:
Stringing: Strung up like a poly, harder to weave than Snake Bite or Big Ace.
General: Stiffer than Big Ace, strings were moving everywhere. Felt really crisp like PSGD. Spin was good, power was a bit too much.
Groundstrokes: Pretty good spin, but probably because it's a 17; first time I've used a 17 gauge string. Power was off and on, so I had to put a lot of spin on the ball. The ball would sail on flat shots. Very crisp setup, and stiffer than Big Ace.
Volleys/Slices: Nice and crisp, felt this is where it was best. Really grabbed the ball.
Serve: Slice and kick serves were nice, great grab on the ball but flat serves went long.
Returns: This is where I liked the extra pop the most. Great for defensive returns. If you are an aggressive flat returner might be too much power.
Durability/Tension Maintenance: Have only played two hours will update my post later. Strings move a lot; almost like a syn. gut. Probably won't last long. No noticeable tension drop in first two hours.
Conclusion: I liked the crisp feel of this string but the power was too much on flat balls and I had to hit with a lot of spin to keep the ball in. Almost like a cross between a syn. gut and a poly. Strings were moving everywhere. I'd buy this at $6 for a set or $60 for a real. Good for people who like a really crisp feel. Thanks TW/Wilson for the play test.
Tension it is strung:
Strung at 54 tension mains. Hybrid with PSGD17G Cross 57 tension.
Your regular string set up:
Full bed of PSGD17G at 57 tension
Racquet brand and model string is installed in:
Head Youtek Speed MP 16x19
Felt very stiff
Played for 4 hours, tension didn't feel like it dropped.
Overall comments and feedback:
My volleys felt more controlled. Forehand and backhand felt awful because of the lack of power. Played a doubles match and rallied for 4 hours, string barely moved. This string gave me too much spin and less power and my shots weren't as deep as they were before. Not my type of string, but generally I don't like poly much .
Wilson blue core string 52/50
Stringing- I would've sworn it was a different colored polylon. Stiff and sharp. It wasn't incredibly bad though.
Groundstrokes- At first, I thought my guess was wrong. I got plenty of spin and low power and it hit really well. After about 2 hours, though, it started moving like polylon. It even made that same squeaking sound when you slide it back straight. Preformance also dropped when it hit this point. It was pretty decent.
Serves- Bleh. Low power doesn't help me with my serve. It also didn't really let me hit very good kickers. It just didn't work out well.
Volleys- Decent. Not too great feel, but decent. I felt like putaways were easy, but touch shots were lacking.
Durability- Very good, even for a poly.
Softness- 1 being the softest, 10 being the stiffest.
Honestly, it felt exactly like any first gen poly I've ever hit with. It felt better at first, but then preformance dropped. Just not that great.
Got de string! Will string it on my Prestige MP when I get it later this week.
Im suprised I didnt get in, I signed up the first day it was posted
You aren't missing anything.
Sorry about that typo!
I got in, am i something?
Sorry. Meant to say you aren't missing anything.
Lol I was like jeez man, that's harsh!
Man, I feel so bad. Seriously, didn't mean to say that.
Stringing: I installed this string using a prince neos. I found this string to be stiffer and harder to work with than the strings I usually install for myself or the players on my team (either Isospeed baseline long-life or kirschbaum synthetic gut.)
Tension it is strung: 53lbs, full set
Your regular string set up: I usually hybrid with Isospeed long-life in the mains at 53 and synthetic gut crosses at 59
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Dunlop M-Fil 300
Power (or lack there of): I found this string to be low-powered, but not in an unpleasant, dead, way. It certainly did not give any extra pop on serves, but I was able to get good pace on groundstrokes and also good spin. Spin production was good on all shots.
Feel: This string is definitely stiff feeling, but not harsh. I could feel the ball flattening out on the stringbed (or at least I thought I could) when I hit the sweet spot. Overall, these strings are much more arm-friendly than most other full-poly setups.
Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension): I did not notice any loss in tension or performance over a two-hour hitting session. However, I see that the strings are starting to notch, more so than synthetic gut after this much time. The mains did not move around at all.
Overall comments and feedback: I enjoy this string. I am not usually able to use a full poly set up without elbow soreness, but this string felt very comfortable. I was also able to try the twisted wilson poly string, and this one is better than that one in every way. I would definitely consider buying this even though I am sure that it will be much more expensive than the strings I currently use. Thanks for the demo TW
Wilson mysterious "blue" string review
First off this string is something to look at.......clear string with a blue core.
This stuff was stiff for a poly. Stringing it wasnt too bad, but def had some coil memory which made it a tad of a pain in the a%#.
CURRENT RACQUET AND TENSION:
AEROPRO DRIVE FRENCH OPEN EDITION AND STRUNG THIS STUFF AT 55# on my gamma with a wise head.
CURRENT STRING OF CHOICE:
Volkl cyclone 16 g at 55#
After hitting with this string I must say I was impressed. The string was pretty soft for as stiff as it felt stringing. Has a plus feel in the aeropro drive. The string had quite a bit more pop on ground strokes than other polys I use (volkl cyclone, alien, rpm blast). Touch shot were ok, not as good as my cyclone, but still did well. Serves we're a bit disappointing as the power did not seem to be there as it was on the groundies.
This string has held up pretty well. Lost about 4-5 pounds after the first set, but has settled in now and after bout 10 hours, does not feel dead. String is beinginning to notch, but is wearing well.
I'd buy this stuff again as it was very good stuff. Its not a replacement for my current, but has its place in other frames. The look of the string is amazing, but hey looks don't help ya hit better. All in all good PLAYTEST and thanks TW for the opportunity.
I attached some pics:
Initial Thoughts: Upon receiving it, I LOVED the blue colorway, thumbs up to Wilson but it looks REALLY nice in my Aero Storm Tour GT. At first glance at the string I knew it was some type of poly, and seeing that I strung it at 54 LBS. This is what I normally string my co poly/poly strings. But after stringing it I tapped the string bed a couple of times to hear the string resonate, and to my surprise it wasn't that *clunk* *clunk* it was more of a *ping* *ping*. That REALLY impressed because normally the poly/co poly I string at 54LBS has that *clunk* sound, so right off the bat I knew that this string was going to be soft and easy on the arm.
Tension it is strung: 54 LBS
Your regular string set up: Technifibre X-1 Biphase 17G
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Babolat Aero Storm Tour
Power: A LOT of Power
Feel: REALLY comfortable
Tension maintenance: Pretty good
Groundstrokes: After I had hit my first shot with these strings I knew right away it was going to be my next strings. For a full bed of poly, it was EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE. It felt like I was hitting with a full bed of Multi. If there was another word that would describe these strings it would be POWERFUL. My flat shots were fast and had a lot of power, spin was there but didn't have that much bite to it compared to the textured polys. But it has too much power, with a full swing I would sometimes find the ball flying out, but this could easily be fixed by increasing the tension.
Volleys: Volleying was a dream with these strings, it has that solid yet comfortable touch to it, drop shots and touch volleys were easy and the put away volleys were excellent.
Serves: Flat serves were AMAZING!, they sailed low and went fast, and it had that "pop" which puzzled me at first because this was one of the first polys that had a "pop" during my flat serves, usually it would make a *clunk* sound. Slice and Kick serves had less bite to it than what I was expecting, it had spin nonetheless but not as much as I would've liked. Second serves were easier to return than say when I used the Solinco Tour Bite 17G.
PROS: - Comfortable for a Poly
- Has a lot of feel for a Poly
Cons - Not that much bite to the ball
- Strings move around a lot for a Poly
Conclusion: I'm really looking forward to the release of these strings, they have everything I'm looking for in a Poly, comfort and feeling wise. I would imagine these would be great in a hybrid, but full bed is really nice also. The only real complaint I have about these strings it that they move around a lot, which can be irritating since it is a Poly, and the polys I have used do not move at all, but since the other polys I have used aren't as quite comfortable as this one it makes up for it. Overall great strings Wilson and props for the blue colorway (more of a subjective opinion but just throwing it out there) and I'm looking forward to the release of these strings.
At first I didn't think much of the string but just got finished playing a match with it and I actually beat someone I don't usually beat.
Tension it is strung: 50/52 fullbed
Your regular string set up: 50/52 Big Hitter Blue Rough
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: APDC
Power (or lack there of): Power was just right. It settled in after my first brief hitting and as long as I added that bit of spin everything was nice and deep. The power is more controllable compared to BHBR.
Feel: Feel was below average compared to most polys I've used. Much prefer the feel of BHBR. This felt too stiff and uncomfortable for me.
Tension maintenance: So far I've used this for about 3.5 hrs and after initial settling in I haven't noticed any tension drop. So far so good.
Overall comments and feedback: Serving was decent. i got less spin and second serves weren't dropping like they do with BHBR. Spin was average and I much prefer the huge spin I get with BHBR so I would not change to this string. Also, i have never used a poly that moves this much in the first couple hours of use.
Tension it is strung (please note if strung as hybrid or full set)
50 (Dunlop Max Comfort 17) / 48 Wilson Blue String
Your regular string set up
Dunlop Max Comfort 17 @ 53
Racquet brand and model string is installed in
Borris Becker DC London with leather grip and lead at 3/9 & 5/7
Power (or lack there of)
Muted & Soft
Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension)
Racquet Tune history
20 minutes after stringing 47#
1 day after stringing 44#
2 days after stringing 43# (right before 1st hitting session)
after hitting session 42#
Overall comments and feedback
I am recovering from GE and have been haven't played with poly for about a year. The last couple of months I have been feeling better and contemplated going back to poly in either a hybrid or super low tension.
The color of this string is great. Felt very stiff in hand compared to the string paired with it in the hybrid. Nothing notable during stringing according to the local pro shop that installed it.
Having played with syn gut and multifilaments I had to get used to the different action of the ball coming off of the strings with the style of play I have. I mostly have a flat stroke and moderate topspin.
Warmed up with some inside the service-line no bounce volleys. Dunlop Max Comfort full bed plays really muted and this hybrid was similar.
I had about 10 minutes of hitting where the balls where basically fed to the wheelhouse of my stroke. Initial ball movement was very nice. On the forehand side I noticed some nice bounce from my moderate topspin stroke. I hit some desperation forehand slices that had some nice pace and skidded low. My 1hbh is mostly flat and found the ball direction well on down the line or cross court. The slice bh had really nice movement to the left and would continue to bounce away nicely . Direction was also good on the slice dtl or cc.
The last 30 minutes of rallying my hitting partner picked up the pace and made things more challenging. On shots that I wanted to hit through more and flatten out I had some success. The top spin shots on both wings started to sail long by about a foot if I wasn't careful and hit properly. It seemed that I couldn't get in the groove of things and didn't see the same ball quality. Granted these strokes where after warm up and more under pressure.
I hit about 2 hoppers worth of serves. Flat serves had some nice pop but it was more of the sound of the contact that had more pop. Kick and spin serves where average.
As stated, Max Comfort full bed has a muted feel to it but there was still nice feedback. This set up seemed just as muted but as I continued to hit it started to feel mushy. Max Comfort did not seem change drastically in a full bed where as this hybrid had more notable changes within 40 minutes.
I will probably string the rest of the hybrid at a higher tension by a couple lbs or put the poly in the mains. This hybrid didn't leave me with a favorable taste in performance but I am happy with the way my elbow feels. I have hit with a couple different type of hybrid jobs that left me with better thoughts.
I will see how this setup plays during match play.
Thank you Tennis Warehouse/Wilson for this playtest.
2012 Wilson Blue String Playtest - SteveI
Tension it is strung: 52 Lbs Mains and 48 Lbs Cross (Forten Tournament Nylon 16G)
Your regular string set up: Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G @ 56 Lbs Mains and Gamma Syn Gut 16G @ 52 Lbs
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Dunlop 400G (11.6 oz / 8 Points HL)
Stringing: Strung on a Alpha CP Drop Weight (6-Point). Coil memory was very average for a stiffer poly but not hard to work with. Knots were a bit hard to pull tight since the string was quite stiff. Very similar stringing experience when working with a 1st generation poly ie. Gosen Polylon Ice 17G. Did not string up like one of the 2nd or 3rd generation polys.
Power: Power was very average compared to my regular set-up and I like the lower power level. Allows me really swing out and still maintain control.
Feel: Pretty impressed with the feel after my stringing experience. I thought the string would play harsh and stiff similar to a 1st generation poly. The feel was very firm and consistant. I would say a bit on the muted side and easy on my arm. I felt connected to the stringbed and that enhanced control, drop shots and angled slices.
Tension maintenance: Again, thought I was working with a 1st gen string, but the tension manintenace was very solid during the playtesting and string movement was not something that should be mentioned.
Overall comments and feedback: I thought I was NOT going to enjoy this playtest cycle, but the string while not super impressive was a very solid hit. I would say this is a very "honest" string. The test string was not giving away extra spin, power or control. It is more like good input from user...good output from string. Did not impress in any special way, but did not disappoint either. Wilson has found a way to get better, feel, control, comfort and tension maintenance out of a 1st gen package. I am guessing that core has someting to do with this strings' enhanced performance. I am thinking Wilson will release this string in the $6.00/set range and in 17G and 16G. I can see a market for the folks that play power baseline tennis and have a limited budget. This would make a great team string for a HS team or DIII school and even better if the schools colors are something and blue. The strings really show well!!!!
Thanks TW and Wilson for the chance to playtest. Always a pleasure..
I just received this string.
Does 54#s in a Wilson 6.1 16x18 sound about right? I string Silverstring at this tension. Or should I go 52/50 like I do tourbite?
Hah, simple typo, simple typo. Nothing to worry about
I would drop a few lbs.. this stuff is stiff. I am guessing low powered. I moved down 4 lbs form my reg set-up.
ok..ill just do it at 50 then.
Stringing: Was going to string it as a full bed, but the string snapped when I was doing the crosses. I don't know what happened, but then again I'm still pretty new to stringing so it's possible it may have been my error. I put Gamma Revelation 16 in the crosses instead. Both mains and crosses were strung at 60 lbs.
Racket: Pro Staff 6.0 85
Usual string: Babolat Hurricane 17 mains, NVY crosses (The hybrid pack that they sell on TW)
Comments: Felt quite low powered to me. A lot of balls were landing quite short. Didn't feel like I could get much spin either because the strings were very slippery and smooth feeling so my balls were landing in the box with light topspin which meant a lot of my balls were punished. I had to make sure to swing harder to achieve the ball I wanted to hit. String was nice and soft though, so the ball feels pretty good hitting my racket but doesn't produce a desirable result for me. I am currently having some back pain so I didn't bother to serve. Just played with it for the first time yesterday so can't really comment on tension maintenance/durability at the moment.
I haven't strung this up in my racquet yet because I really want to string both this and my normal setup at the same time in two racquets and I feel bad cutting out the still-good string that's already there. I should get in another 5 hours on my present strings before this weekend and then I'll be good to go.
4.5 player indoor hard court 55- 60 degrees court temp.
Babolat Pure Drive GT, Full bed strung at 55lbs. (alpha revo crank). The string was average to work with, not the easiest but not that difficult.
My Normal setup is either X-1 Biphase or Babolat Excel strung at 57lbs in the pure drive. I love the polys but due to elbow pain (golfers elbow) I switched to the Multis.
POWER: 6 out of 10 I was really expecting a little more power from the strings. However, I could definitely swing away with confidence.
Feel: 6.5 out of 10 Definitely not the feel of a Multi. If I hit the ball in the sweet spot the feel was good but if it was just of center a bit it lost all feel. For me Volleys and drop shots were 5-10 slice and groundies 8-10. Serve 7-10 nothing good or bad to say. Spin production 7-10
Tension: Pretty good I think it may have dropped 3-4 pounds after the first day and actually felt better after the first 4 hours of play. I would probably string it at 53lbs.
Overall I was really excited to try some poly again everything I hit landed right in front of the baseline. I could hit away and it always landed in. Less power than what I am used to in a poly sweet spot felt good but anything outside the sweet spot was pretty hard. I would say this string is good all around but not great in any one category. After two days of hard hitting (7 hrs. total) my elbow was asking for the Multis back.
Wilson string test
Type: HYBRID -- natural gut main with WBS in cross
Tension it is strung: 55main; 52 cross
Your regular string set up: gut main/poly cross (Signum megaforce, SPPP, Big Ace, Cyberflash)
Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Wilson Triad T5 (oldie but goodie)
Power (or lack there of): Average for a poly
Feel: I liked the feel of WBS at the baseline as well as at the net. A great balance with natural gut.
Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension): Still going strong after 8 plus hours of play.
Overall comments and feedback:
I like the test string as a cross with nat gut. With its light coating, it seems to be wearing well by springing back into place without creating excessive wear on the gut mains. Spin may be a little more than Signum megaforce, Big Ace and Cyberflash, but SPPP may still give me comparable or more spin.
A nice string worth trying.....
still havent gotten it yet ill stop hoping for it to come in the mail now =(
Youre not the only one who was still waiting for the strings that never came.
I still got nothing. My friends go theirs on Sat so I'm not holding my breathe =/.
I picked mine up.
I need to decide what frame to try it in.
Took a peruse through the frames in my collection, to see which ones look most ready for a makeover.
Leaning toward testing it in my Wilson Prostaff 4.7 EB Stretch OS. This a rare frame 115" headsize with 18x20 pattern 68 stiffness, and 27.75" length. I used this frame stock (10.7 oz., 13.7" balance, and 345 SW) for 10 years during my open level era, strung at about 70 lbs with problend.
But now I like it better leaded up now that I know what I'm doing with the lead tape. I found that I liked a Kevlar/poly hybrid in this frame, which allowed me to drop the tension to mid 50s and get good performance. Will probably try the Wilson Blue as a cross with 18g kevlar mains, and will lead the frame up to specs similar to the Warrior OS frame in my signature.
Usual Setup: Wilson Pro tour 96 w/ RPM in the mains and forten in the crosses.
I put this in both the mains and crosses in my wilson at 52 lbs. It was a bit stiff to string, held some of its tension out of the reel. Also was kind of tough to knot up, especially to start the crosses; using pliars to give it a last sinch up to tighten the knot also put more wear on the outer clear layer then I expected. I played with the racquet for about 3 hours indoors; during my various trips between court and home it probably experienced some colder temperatures. I also noticed some premature wear and tear on the string towards the end of my use, but it seemed to maintain the tension well.
Power: Neither too stiff or too bouncy; I could generate extra pace when I needed to but I also could maintain a safer rally pace as well.
Feel: Not particularly great. My volleys were comfortable and fairly easy, but if I needed a little more touch on my shot the strings were not that helpful.
Overall I liked the string; playing with it didn't feel like a huge change from my normal setup, but it didn't give me any extra advantages either. However, my serve with this string was working very well, both flat, slice and top spin. It did seem to wear a bit quick and could use a bit more feel, but overall the string is pretty nice.
TW, I'm not on you exclusion list right?
I am wondering this as well.
Unfortunately, not everyone was selected for this Wilson Blue Prototype String playtest. This was not a first come, first serve playtest as we only had a small quantity of strings to give out so it did not matter when you sent the email during the sign up period. We tried to get a variety of playtesters, from previous playtesters that gave stellar reviews to new playtesters. Everyone still has a chance to participate on the upcoming playtests providing you gave detailed and quality reviews on time on previous playtests.
Ah, thanks for the clarification Brittany! Too many first come first serve playtests have spoiled me
Can I put it on record that in the next round that IF I'm selected, can you give my spot to someone who typically gives great reviews? I'm only saying this because of my...outspoken comments last time about playtests causing an influx of new members who get strings since it's first-come-first-serve. This random sampling method was exactly what I was hoping for since it more or less guarantees that no one is just out for free goods.
Just an advice
With so many people with different preference and some like me with sensitive elbow. For the near future you guys should at least let the reader know what kind of string will be test... "THIS TEST IS A MULTI OR POLY" etc;
Since most of these are blind playtests, we sometimes don't want to give that information away. Therefore, as many playtesters have done, simply specify in your sign up if you have any restrictions.
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