Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by zagor, Jan 25, 2013.
A proper thread without Armstrong and Mugray nonsense.
Thanks you I will post on this one refused to vote on that one because some **** called the world number 1 armstrong
I just looked at the ranking points, and even if he wins, Murray will not only be behind Djokovic but also Federer. How could the number three player have two slams, the number two player one slam, and the number one player no slams? Crazy stuff.
I'd rather see Murray win, I think, but I'll be happy regardless. Both are going for a unique achievement. I hope we get a match as good as the one they played last year, which unfortunately I was not able to watch live.
Hard to pick against Djokovic, but I just have this feeling Murray will get it done. Don't ask me why. I couldn't explain it even if I tried.
I'll pick Djokovic as the 65-35 favorite. Djokovic in 4. And I have no idea who to pull for. I would've normally pulled for Murray but now I can't seem to care much about who wins. I'll just watch it without any support.
Murray in 4 sets.
Exactly, accusing people of cheat is just a disgrace. The cyclist Armstrog problem created all these accusation
You'd be a fool to bet against Djokovic but you never know if anyone can do it Murray can.
Prefer Djokovic, like him very much overall. Murray I am not a fan of, but unquestionably he is a truly great player.
Murray in 5 is my prediction. It will be yet another war.
You'll probably see on Sunday why he's the number one player.
Damn it zag, should have made it public. Y people no make polls public?
Murray in four or five.
It's a close call, slight edge to Djokovic if it goes to 5 perhaps, but then again, Murray is a physical beast now, he should be fine.
Going with Braveheart in 5 for the drama!
I thought I did?
Very recently we have had:
Nadal reaching 8 out of 9 GS finals (from 2010 RG to 2012 RG, only failed in 2011 AO because of injury).
Djokovic reaching 8 out of 10 GS finals (from 2010 UO to current AO, only failed in 2011 RG and 2012 WB losing both times to Fed in the SF)
Of course Federer reaching 10 out of 10 GS finals at one point (and 8 out of 8 at another point, which gives 18 out of 19 GS finals).
Now Murray is playing his third consecutive GS final...
If Federer declines a bit more (because of age) and Nadal does not come back strong....we could have Djokovic-Murray GS finals many many times in the near future.
And some people still don't want to know that all this is totally related to homogenization of conditions in tennis...
I am not saying it is better or worse to have it like this (it depends on what every viewer prefers, I prefer variety and more than the same three players to be able to play GS finals, but other people may like to see the same players, all with basically the same style, in all GS finals all the time).
I apologize my eyesight is beginning to fail me on this small screen
Thanks zagor. Much more civilised thread...
I think Murray in 4 or Noley in 5.
Now that Murray isn't slamless anymore, I'm rooting for him in the final.
And picking him in 5 sets so that Djokovic doesn't get too cocky.
I hope Murray can recover and keep his focus during the match. Due to the extra rest and the level he has been at throughout the tournament, I think Novak will create more opportunities and be able to take them, unlike what happened today. I think Djokovic will take it in 4, but a competitive 5 setter is what I'm hoping for.
Djokovic in 5. These days it's sort of hard not to assume their matches will go the distance.
If Murray stays mentally strong he will win because he is the superior player.
Murray in 4 or 5. Stan showed major weakness in Djokovic' game.
Major? Like what? Stan was just on it.
Can we all just post in this thread?
Polls are stupid
Referring to the rankings actually here, still on a Lance like high from watching that semi
Tim Henman in 5...........oh wait
You are mistaken sir, Tim went out in the semi final.
Murray winning the poll, someone call Bob!
Insomniacs in 4.
How silly oh me, tiger Tim masters of the semi
When pressured Djokovic doesn't go for his shots he plays to keep the ball in play. He won that match with defense and stamina only ,the main problem he will have against Murray is that he can match him stroke for stroke and endurance.
Djocovic is the ultimate marathon man, probably only guy that can last 5 hours with Murray or Nadal
I won't be watching the first 4 hours personally. I really hate this match up.
Murray is the more complete player in my opinion. Better slice, better volleys, more variety and a better first serve.
The second serve is still a weakness though, he'll need to defend it well.
Djokovic still has a slight edge with the ROS and with the FH.
His biggest weapon is still his mental strength, he can get outplayed and still win. You're never done with Novak Djokovic!
key factor: Murray's recovery.
There are few players, who have won consecutive 5 setters in SF and F. Djoko is a physical beast, but IMO Murray is a better player in their matchup (not overall). So if Murray is physically ok, he will win. But there is a chance Murray gets fatigued. It's a very grueling matchup.
To be honest I always though of djocovic as the most complete player in the world.
This is 50/50 in my opinion. Both have various strengths and weaknesses.
On balance, even as a Murray fan, I would accept Novak is the slightly more complete player overall. Especially when including mental strength and consistency.
But right here and now, I have a sneaky feeling Andy could take this. Andy in 4.
How do you rate their shots then?
Same here. And I have thought this since I first saw him. No weakness at all.
Equal in terms of backhand
Novak better forehand
Equal in variety (look at djocovic vs warwinka to see the numbers of ways he pulled himself out)
Novak mentally stronger
Novak just edges baseline
Slice murray takes it by a slight margin
Can someone help me figure out exactly what time I need to get up? I'm on Central U.S. time. I got up at 4:00 for the Djokovic-Ferrer semi and only got to see about twenty minutes. Will the official start time be 3 am for me or more like 2:30?
Am in London and the matches at night have been starting at 8.30 am for me central time is 6 hours behind us so it will be 2.30 am for you
And EQUAL in terms of GS final wins against each other (although Murray edges this one as he won their last encounter)
2am, because it starts at 8am uk, so 8-6 is 2am
I think coverage starts at 2 your time. After warmups and other stuff, I bet they start about 3:30 Eastern.
Novak in 3 or 4 my dudes....AO Final 2011 shall commence again!
And close in term of H2H, with Novak just edging it.
Fed in 2
Nah, Novak in 4.
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