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He also has the best winning percentage on grass. All time.
2013 Gerry Weber Open Singles Finale: [1] Roger Federer(SUI) VS Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)
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He also has the best winning percentage on grass. All time.
King of Clay
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Rafael Nadal has the highest winning percentage in the history of tennis.
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Nathaniel_Near
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/end thread. :lol:
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
achieved after he has limited his last two seasons to only clay - until then, he was still behind Borg. Still, he might have got there eventually nevertheless
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I guess that is what happens when you no-show half the season.
But impressive nonetheless.
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powerangle
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Fed now ties JMac for 3rd most singles titles won in the Open Era. It was a tough win considering his (relatively) weaker opposition but at least it's something. 
Keep trucking along, Maestro!
Keep trucking along, Maestro!
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Nathaniel_Near
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Nope I think his 0 - 10 ish era was more penniless.
veroniquem
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I think it's his 2nd longest. The longest was almost a year between his 1st title: Milan (end of January 2001) and his 2nd title: Sydney (January 2002).
Rhino
Legend
Well he lost to Haas last year so this is a step up. Everybody can lose to an inferior player sometimes. Even your idol lost to a player outside the top 50 in an ATP250 final this year. Not to mention, when was the last time Nadal hit anyone with a double bagel - ever?
Anyway, nice one Federer. Picks up the Halle title for the first time since 2008! Equals McEnroes 77 titles and goes into his Wimbledon defence with the perfect preparation.
King of Clay
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I don't have an idol, if anything I am my own idol.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Thanks. So it's certainly the longest period since he became a top player!
underground
G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer has a peRFect winning percentage (100%) on a surface.
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Nathaniel_Near
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Oh, I get it.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Is Youzny this good or has roger slowed down this much ?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Definitely. The decline seems to be upon him, slowly but surely.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
It is definitely not the former.
volleyandfun
Hall of Fame
Youzhny has very good game and when he is on, he can beat anyone. He did beat Nadal 4 times
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Yea but Nadal is Youzny pigeon.
volleyandfun
Hall of Fame
still, it does take something to beat him
I watched couple of Youzhny matches this week and he was in incredible form
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
so Youzny will upset some big names at Big W. Could it beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the Topspin monkey ?
abmk
Bionic Poster
don't remember fed facing a MP or two, but soderling even back then was a big server/hitter, youzhny isn't.
It isn't just that fed lost a set in a breaker. Its the way he was playing , not that convincing. Same was the case in the semi
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
oh maybe I remember wrong. I didn't see the match, but losing a tie breaker on fast grass means nothing really. You don't need to be a big hitter/server to hold serve.
He lost 4 tie breakers at Halle in 2006 (and won another 4). To gasquet, olivier rochus, tommy haas, and berdych, most of whom aren't big hitters either. And he almost lost that match to Rochus.
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
It's Ok but nothing worth of mention yet. Everyone loses more nearer the end of their career which softens their numbers - see Federer and Sampras for perfect examples - two guys still above Nadal in the GOAT stakes*. That's why it's pointless even comparing guys until they've both retired.
(* the credible, all-encompassing, achievement-based GOAT stakes I mean, not the partisan hack GOAT stakes)
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
You can't say the same for Nadal right now.
Down_the_line
Legend
Even if just a measly 250 tournament, always nice to see Federer emerge victorious.
This title was actually pretty meaningful, though. It's his 77th career title, which ties him with John McEnroe (I think).
This title was actually pretty meaningful, though. It's his 77th career title, which ties him with John McEnroe (I think).
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
Indeed. He even had to save four match points in his match vs Rochus, he of the monster serve.
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I don't see how anyone can still argue Sampras is better on the surface. Federer has more wins and fewer losses on the surface, more titles, more finals, a better win-loss ratio at Wimbledon, more finals at Wimbledon, more match wins at Wimbledon, etc. Seemes pretty straightforward.
Goosehead
Legend
some folk are samprasfreaks who are in denial..its obvious Federer is better on grass..maybe not better but feds grass era lasted longer than pistolpete (still going).
13 titles and OG silver, 121-17 on grass..
Down_the_line
Legend
Sampras just made Wimbledon his home and owned it (7 titles in 8 years from '93-'00). Did he really shine on grass elsewhere?
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
They are the same people who are adamant that Sampras would have found a way to beat Nadal in a Roland Garros final, even though he always got lost along the way to the final (poor sense of direction on clay, had Pete), so there you go.
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
No. Won two titles in Queen's, and another one in Manchester, way back in '90 when he was 18. Nothing special apart from Wimby.
Even lost a DC match on grass in the US vs Corretja (of all people) after being two sets to love up.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
In all fairness, during Sampras's era, there were not many opportunities to shine on grass anywhere other than at Wimbledon and Queens. He managed to shine at both so his grass credentials are very much in order! :wink:
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I think people are worried because of the way he played and looked, not because of the lost tiebreaker. He played awful for half of the match and only decent afterwards. And looked pretty slow - any tough ball hit away from him, you felt sure, he would not get it back.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Not to mention he won the only meeting between them while being further from his prime than Sampras.
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Nathaniel_Near
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Maybe, maybe not, I mean I really don't know who was better on grass.
Try watching this and tell me there's been a more dominant display of brutal grass excellence in recent years:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Of-1LmlBA
Mad props because his performance in that final was absolutely mind blowing, well and truly. To me it just acts as a stark reminder that Sampras' greatness on grass can't be overlooked, so I see why you said 'maybe not better' Enjoyable highlights, BTW.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
congrats fed
abmk
Bionic Poster
not even sampras' best performance on grass IMO.
Try this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8IcVMx-8kE
abmk
Bionic Poster
Hey icedevil,
how have you been ? been long time since I've seen you post here. ....
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Nathaniel_Near
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Both really great performances, good find, good addition and good response.
Beast plays right there.
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Nathaniel_Near
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The calibre of opponent Sampras sometimes had to dispatch at Wimbledon (my own highlights):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak7nQ-OLr60
1995 Wimbledon Final, Sampras vs Double Decker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak7nQ-OLr60
1995 Wimbledon Final, Sampras vs Double Decker
Goosehead
Legend
yes, good video of petros..I watched it on the telly at the time, one of petes best performances.
dudeski
Hall of Fame
I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic and making fun of recreation drugs addicted Sampras rivals.
"Pete Sampras great shot selection"
Half of the points are aces. That guy is a better version of Raonic. Yeah, obviously very tough to beat on grass with such a solid serve and volley game but Federer dominates by simply playing a higher level of tennis than his opponents. Sampras has just got a very good strategy which makes him almost unbeatable on grass.
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