2013 Indian Wells Final: (5) Rafael Nadal vs (7) Juan Martin Del Potro

Who won the real 5th slam?


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mattennis

Hall of Fame
Awesome work, dedans!!!

Sadly so many little kids and girls that don't love the game at all. They instead worship one player as their god or simply hate deeply another one player.

I've been watching and playing tennis for five decades. I love tennis so much (even if I prefer former tennis in general), there are some players whose style I like more than others, but I will never ever write that kind of crap about any player, so consistently (like some here do about Nadal, others about Federer, others about Murray, others about Djokovic) as we have to watch and read here almost every day.

When will all these little brainless kids grow old?

You can love tennis and have a great time watching tennis without having to hate any single player.
 
~ A Fanboy Fairy Tale ~

Once upon a time, there was a Fedfanboy.The fanboy would childishly squeal with delight, however it had nothing to do with tennis. No, his squealing had to do with rooting against a player because this 'hated player' would usuallly kick his fanboy idol's ass head-to-head, to the point where one time the "hated player" reduced the jock-sniffing fanboy's idol to tears at the Australian Open. So anyway, the hated player was losing his match and the happy little fanboy was beside himself with glee and he let the world know with his non-stop fanboy 'wooooing':












Then, a voice called the fedfanboys on their childish trolling.




The suddenly, the match seemed to turn and the once happy, gleeful fanboys turned into petulent little brats with one petty complaint after another .... complaints that were never even mentioned when their hated player was losing, along with cynical assumptions. Again it wasn't about the tennis, it was about being derisive fanboys. The butthurt was starting to creep in...




And even more butthurt...




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Quoted for truth-lol.
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As surely as the fedfanboy trolls start to drop out-lol.
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The fanboys' butthurt reached the point where their hated player's big kicking groundstrokes were derisively described as pushing the ball--they were in full butthurt mode...






And yet some objective observers viewed these same 'moonballed' shots quite differently from the now petulent, angry little fanboys....





Then, starting to become totally unhinged, the angry little fanboys started to blame the tennis court itself. Again, it was never about the tennis...



And on top of all the excuses, their hated player was "lucky" on top of everything else...



And the hated player was not only 'lucky' but also a doping cheater....the fanboys having inside information nobody else in tennis knew....





And after having seen their 'hated player' win the match against his valiant, well-like opponent, there was nothing left for the sad and dejected little fanboys to hang their little caps on but to make 'sour grapes' assumptions....because they are NEVER about the tennis...



~ The End ~

The Most Amazing Story in TW ...........ever !!:twisted:
Nice work Dedans. I missed all the commotion yesterday. Life had to be on the way! And missed Rafa's destruction of the haters. Hopefully, I'll be there for his next Trophy Acceptance and then will see, not only Rafa's great tennis but also the laments of the haters like Dropsootartist and tennisnotsoPRO:twisted:
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
No surprises here, Ralph won as expected. This was the best surface and draw he had to capture a HC and good for him that he made good use of the opportunity.

Tough luck for Delpo, his chances were over even before he made the final after playing Murray and Djoker back to back in 3 setters. The guy never seems to catch a break. Earlier last year, he would land all the time in Federer's quarter when he was playing well and now that Fed is injured, he lands in Murray-Djoker half. Him landing in the opposite half of the draw would have meant a realistic shot at the title here. Anyway, hope he goes on to have a good season.

I think he had a chance if he won in 2 sets. He played a nervy service game to get broken back and Nadal then came alive again and started dictating play. You gotta expect it but it was still impressive from Nadal that he never really let Delpo get a sniff after that.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Let's be honest here,
Had his back been better
AND
the surface been faster
AND
it been 2006
this would've been Federer's title to lose.

Actually, he won it last year.

Sorry, I forgot, Nadal was injured (even though he was also playing doubles) and it was windy so it doesn't really count.

Carry on.
 

TCG

Semi-Pro
I don't understand the insecurities of some people in this board. I have been a silent visitor on these boards for a couple of years and realized all fan boys/girls are the same. People are simply too narrow minded to accept different styles of play. All you do is spew hatred in every thread and fight for tennis players who don't even know you exist when there are serious real issues out there in the real world. Enjoy the tennis folks and remember every tennis great leaves a lasting impression on a generation. Respect them if you respect the sport.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I don't understand the insecurities of some people in this board. I have been a silent visitor on these boards for a couple of years and realized all fan boys/girls are the same. People are simply too narrow minded to accept different styles of play. All you do is spew hatred in every thread and fight for tennis players who don't even know you exist when there are serious real issues out there in the real world. Enjoy the tennis folks and remember every tennis great leaves a lasting impression on a generation. Respect them if you respect the sport.

Very good post man.
 
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Who is the girl in the big hat?
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
great work dedans penthouse...

While watching Nadal absolutely teeing off on his groundstrokes last night, at one point I thought "even the TT forum denizens won't be able to accuse Nadal of 'pushing' or 'moonballing' this time."

Should have known better!

Ya rafa hit 31 winners and delpo 28, I suppose the haters here will say those ripping winners he was hitting were moonballs also.
 

Benhur

Hall of Fame
Actually, he won it last year.

Sorry, I forgot, Nadal was injured (even though he was also playing doubles) and it was windy so it doesn't really count.

Carry on.

Lol, yes, I like the way the wind is used around here. In 2009 Nadal won it in the wind. Last year Federer won it in the wind. In both cases, the wind took the win away. Gone with the wind, because the wind
only affected the loser.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
Ya rafa hit 31 winners and delpo 28, I suppose the haters here will say those ripping winners he was hitting were moonballs also.

That's impossible! Rafa is a moonballing retriever who only wears down his opponents like Wozniacki :) He never hits winners. /end sarcasm :)

Those on here who keep repeating that are either blind and/or stupid.
 

Blinkism

Legend
This;
~ A Fanboy Fairy Tale ~

Once upon a time, there was a Fedfanboy.The fanboy would childishly squeal with delight, however it had nothing to do with tennis. No, his squealing had to do with rooting against a player because this 'hated player' would usuallly kick his fanboy idol's ass head-to-head, to the point where one time the "hated player" reduced the jock-sniffing fanboy's idol to tears at the Australian Open. So anyway, the hated player was losing his match and the happy little fanboy was beside himself with glee and he let the world know with his non-stop fanboy 'wooooing':












Then, a voice called the fedfanboys on their childish trolling.




The suddenly, the match seemed to turn and the once happy, gleeful fanboys turned into petulent little brats with one petty complaint after another .... complaints that were never even mentioned when their hated player was losing, along with cynical assumptions. Again it wasn't about the tennis, it was about being derisive fanboys. The butthurt was starting to creep in...




And even more butthurt...




---------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoted for truth-lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



-----------------------------------------------------------------------
As surely as the fedfanboy trolls start to drop out-lol.
------------------------------------------------------------------------



The fanboys' butthurt reached the point where their hated player's big kicking groundstrokes were derisively described as pushing the ball--they were in full butthurt mode...






And yet some objective observers viewed these same 'moonballed' shots quite differently from the now petulent, angry little fanboys....





Then, starting to become totally unhinged, the angry little fanboys started to blame the tennis court itself. Again, it was never about the tennis...



And on top of all the excuses, their hated player was "lucky" on top of everything else...



And the hated player was not only 'lucky' but also a doping cheater....the fanboys having inside information nobody else in tennis knew....





And after having seen their 'hated player' win the match against his valiant, well-like opponent, there was nothing left for the sad and dejected little fanboys to hang their little caps on but to make 'sour grapes' assumptions....because they are NEVER about the tennis...



~ The End ~

I've fallen back in love with TalkTennis.

Thank you, sir.
 
Rafa was definitely not healthy in USO 2009. Had he been healthy, Del Potro might still have beaten him but, I doubt he would be a major champ today. Federer would have killed him in that final.

The strange thing is, Federer could have won that title easily. He started very aggressively, attacking the net on good approach shots and then just kind of stopped being aggressive. He was very close to being up 2 sets to none.
 
~ A Fanboy Fairy Tale ~

Once upon a time, there was a Fedfanboy.The fanboy would childishly squeal with delight, however it had nothing to do with tennis. No, his squealing had to do with rooting against a player because this 'hated player' would usuallly kick his fanboy idol's ass head-to-head, to the point where one time the "hated player" reduced the jock-sniffing fanboy's idol to tears at the Australian Open. So anyway, the hated player was losing his match and the happy little fanboy was beside himself with glee and he let the world know with his non-stop fanboy 'wooooing':











Then, a voice called the fedfanboys on their childish trolling.




The suddenly, the match seemed to turn and the once happy, gleeful fanboys turned into petulent little brats with one petty complaint after another .... complaints that were never even mentioned when their hated player was losing, along with cynical assumptions. Again it wasn't about the tennis, it was about being derisive fanboys. The butthurt was starting to creep in...




And even more butthurt...




---------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoted for truth-lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



-----------------------------------------------------------------------
As surely as the fedfanboy trolls start to drop out-lol.
------------------------------------------------------------------------



The fanboys' butthurt reached the point where their hated player's big kicking groundstrokes were derisively described as pushing the ball--they were in full butthurt mode...






And yet some objective observers viewed these same 'moonballed' shots quite differently from the now petulent, angry little fanboys....





Then, starting to become totally unhinged, the angry little fanboys started to blame the tennis court itself. Again, it was never about the tennis...



And on top of all the excuses, their hated player was "lucky" on top of everything else...



And the hated player was not only 'lucky' but also a doping cheater....the fanboys having inside information nobody else in tennis knew....





And after having seen their 'hated player' win the match against his valiant, well-like opponent, there was nothing left for the sad and dejected little fanboys to hang their little caps on but to make 'sour grapes' assumptions....because they are NEVER about the tennis...



~ The End ~


Wow. Well done. Anytime there is a match involving Nadal and he wins, the calls to the local suicide hotline must triple.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Ya rafa hit 31 winners and delpo 28, I suppose the haters here will say those ripping winners he was hitting were moonballs also.

Del Potro never attempted to chase down like 20 of those. Just as Nadal wouldn't if he played Murray and Djokovic in the previous rounds. Heck he wouldn't even gone past Murray to begin with.
 

Rocky89

Professional
That was just superb Dedans Penthouse :):):)


Del Potro never attempted to chase down like 20 of those. Just as Nadal wouldn't if he played Murray and Djokovic in the previous rounds. Heck he wouldn't even gone past Murray to begin with.

Implying that Delpo was tired isn't a legitimate excuse. I certainly didn't hear people claiming he was tired when he won the first set. He didn't chase down those winners because they were just that, winners.
 

namelessone

Legend
That's impossible! Rafa is a moonballing retriever who only wears down his opponents like Wozniacki :) He never hits winners. /end sarcasm :)

Those on here who keep repeating that are either blind and/or stupid.

Rafa Nadal, the only player in history to hit moonball winners. :twisted:
 

Fastpace Ace

Professional
Awesome work, dedans!!!

Sadly so many little kids and girls that don't love the game at all. They instead worship one player as their god or simply hate deeply another one player.

I've been watching and playing tennis for five decades. I love tennis so much (even if I prefer former tennis in general), there are some players whose style I like more than others, but I will never ever write that kind of crap about any player, so consistently (like some here do about Nadal, others about Federer, others about Murray, others about Djokovic) as we have to watch and read here almost every day.

When will all these little brainless kids grow old?

You can love tennis and have a great time watching tennis without having to hate any single player.

Well said, and so very true.
 

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
~ A Fanboy Fairy Tale ~

Once upon a time, there was a Fedfanboy.The fanboy would childishly squeal with delight, however it had nothing to do with tennis. No, his squealing had to do with rooting against a player because this 'hated player' would usuallly kick his fanboy idol's ass head-to-head, to the point where one time the "hated player" reduced the jock-sniffing fanboy's idol to tears at the Australian Open. So anyway, the hated player was losing his match and the happy little fanboy was beside himself with glee and he let the world know with his non-stop fanboy 'wooooing':












Then, a voice called the fedfanboys on their childish trolling.




The suddenly, the match seemed to turn and the once happy, gleeful fanboys turned into petulent little brats with one petty complaint after another .... complaints that were never even mentioned when their hated player was losing, along with cynical assumptions. Again it wasn't about the tennis, it was about being derisive fanboys. The butthurt was starting to creep in...




And even more butthurt...




---------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoted for truth-lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



-----------------------------------------------------------------------
As surely as the fedfanboy trolls start to drop out-lol.
------------------------------------------------------------------------



The fanboys' butthurt reached the point where their hated player's big kicking groundstrokes were derisively described as pushing the ball--they were in full butthurt mode...






And yet some objective observers viewed these same 'moonballed' shots quite differently from the now petulent, angry little fanboys....





Then, starting to become totally unhinged, the angry little fanboys started to blame the tennis court itself. Again, it was never about the tennis...



And on top of all the excuses, their hated player was "lucky" on top of everything else...



And the hated player was not only 'lucky' but also a doping cheater....the fanboys having inside information nobody else in tennis knew....





And after having seen their 'hated player' win the match against his valiant, well-like opponent, there was nothing left for the sad and dejected little fanboys to hang their little caps on but to make 'sour grapes' assumptions....because they are NEVER about the tennis...



~ The End ~

This could be the best post I've ever seen!

Nice work DP
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
There's still no information on why Nadal was gone for 8 months.
Was it a severe knee injury? (doesn't look to be the case considering his clay season where he's running all over the place like a gazelle).
Was he emotionally distraught from the Rosol loss? (possibly considering Nadal is a momentum player and emotionally fragile).
Was Nadal caught for doping and served a silent ban? (possibly and it may have been unwise for the ATP to rat out their star player and damaging the sport in the process).
Nobody really knows what the reason was. What we do know is that Djokovic revealed that he had not been tested in 7 months. Possibly the stars are lying about how frequently they are tested and it's in the best interests of the ATP to not reveal how shady their drug testing policy may actually be.
Also makes you wonder, why is it that Nadal has such great stamina compared to the rest of the tour? Even after 8 months absence and he can still go strong and chase down every ball without getting tired in blazing heat. So it does make you wonder.:-|
Even Lance Armstrong passed the tests...
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Let's face the truth. If any of Federer, Nadal or Djokovic had been caught for taking drugs, this sport is seriously screwed. :lol:
Sports is big business. You're not going to damage the reputation of one of your superstars who is helping to bring huge chunks of the audience to watch your product.
The ATP is best served in keeping everything under wraps no matter who is doping.
 

mattennis

Hall of Fame
There's still no information on why Nadal was gone for 8 months.
Was it a severe knee injury? (doesn't look to be the case considering his clay season where he's running all over the place like a gazelle).
Was he emotionally distraught from the Rosol loss? (possibly considering Nadal is a momentum player and emotionally fragile).
Was Nadal caught for doping and served a silent ban? (possibly and it may have been unwise for the ATP to rat out their star player and damaging the sport in the process).
Nobody really knows what the reason was. What we do know is that Djokovic revealed that he had not been tested in 7 months. Possibly the stars are lying about how frequently they are tested and it's in the best interests of the ATP to not reveal how shady their drug testing policy may actually be.
Also makes you wonder, why is it that Nadal has such great stamina compared to the rest of the tour? Even after 8 months absence and he can still go strong and chase down every ball without getting tired in blazing heat. So it does make you wonder.:-|
Even Lance Armstrong passed the tests...

What is this myth about Nadal's super-human stamina?

He played a 3 hours SF against Moya in 2008 Chennai and he was dead in the final next day losing 6-0 6-1 to Youznhy.

He played a 4 hours SF (at least 1.30 h of it was between serves :) ) against Djokovic in 2009 Madrid (clay) and the next day he looked dead tired in the final (and lost 6-4 6-4 to Federer).

He played a 3 hours SF against Murray in 2010 WTF and the next day in the final he looked dead tired in the third set losing 6-3 3-6 6-1 to Federer.

Nadal's stamina is good but not better than Federer's, Djokovic's Ferrer's or multiple players from the past.
 

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
What is this myth about Nadal's super-human stamina?

He played a 3 hours SF against Moya in 2008 Chennai and he was dead in the final next day losing 6-0 6-1 to Youznhy.

He played a 4 hours SF (at least 1.30 h of it was between serves :) ) against Djokovic in 2009 Madrid (clay) and the next day he looked dead tired in the final (and lost 6-4 6-4 to Federer).

He played a 3 hours SF against Murray in 2010 WTF and the next day in the final he looked dead tired in the third set losing 6-3 3-6 6-1 to Federer.

Nadal's stamina is good but not better than Federer's, Djokovic's Ferrer's or multiple players from the past.

That's right , and forget not the match vs Verdasco (Cincinnati) 7/6 6/7 7/6 lasting 218 minutes , next day he lost to Fish .
 

The-Champ

Legend
What is this myth about Nadal's super-human stamina?

He played a 3 hours SF against Moya in 2008 Chennai and he was dead in the final next day losing 6-0 6-1 to Youznhy.

He played a 4 hours SF (at least 1.30 h of it was between serves :) ) against Djokovic in 2009 Madrid (clay) and the next day he looked dead tired in the final (and lost 6-4 6-4 to Federer).

He played a 3 hours SF against Murray in 2010 WTF and the next day in the final he looked dead tired in the third set losing 6-3 3-6 6-1 to Federer.

Nadal's stamina is good but not better than Federer's, Djokovic's Ferrer's or multiple players from the past.


It's a myth here that Nadal only wins because of his stamina. In reality, Federer, Djokovic and Murray are stronger in that department.
 
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