Discussion in 'College Tennis Talk' started by diredesire, Jan 21, 2013.
Connor Smith up 6-0 3-0 on Francis Alcantara.
McCarthy makes it 6 1st sets for Ohio State.
they sure looked impressive today
maybe if UVA played their 4-9 players pepperdine would put a couple points on the board - though mousheg would probably still get killed - he seemed to have so much potential when he lost 0,0 to saba last year, but he has stalled since then it seems
aright, duke, last hope for this tournament to have a down-to-the-wire exciting main draw match these first two days is this dubs point, let's get after it
prediction (since you have to believe in your dudes!) - duke wins 1 and 2 dubs to take it, uva probably takes 3
duke takes 2 dubs
need to break down 5-6 on 1
3 on serve uva up 6-5
uva 3 wins
uva 1 to serve for it at 7-6
more aggressive team won it at 1, nice job uva, mac didn't play like a freshman serving it out
ughhhh gonna take some serious good fortune to make this a match now, we'll see first 30 mins of singles whether the guys believe more than i do
Cunha not playing in singles - not good.
Weak move - he looked fine in doubles
Maybe just tired of having his ass handed to him by Jenkins last year
How seriously are teams taking this event? Why are so many players sitting out in singles?
Let's not go crazy here. Pepperdine gave UVA a decent match last year in the semifinals. The Waves are much more of an outdoor team while Ohio State is much more of an indoor team.
So you think pepperdine can take UVA this year? Or just picking on my hyperbole...
Anyone who thinks pepperdine can take down this UVA team is insane
4-0 UVa over Duke, but the scoreline does not reflect the tightness of the match at all.
Pepperdine won three sets total.
anyway, congrats to you and clark, hell of a team
proud of my guys for putting up a good fight in dubs and continuing it in singles without their leader, but you guys don't give up even a point easy much less a whole team match
still think this could be the year the streak ends if duke can take the dubs pt in one of the next two outings - but even then who knows, gotta believe
hope you guys kick some ass next two rounds and make me look smart
The impressive thing about Duke this year is that they save seven legitimate top 6 players. By that, I mean top 6 at the level of play required of a top 5 team/national title contender. They showed that today, as players 2-7 played 1-6 and looked like they were as good as a lot of top 10 lineups. Today's singles lineup, without Cunha, could have beaten most of the 16 teams in this tournament.
Yea, very impressed with the Blue Devils. I said on The Sabre that I seriously doubt that there are 8 better teams in the country.
Very impressed ? is that why they went down 4-0 ?
yeah maybe we should play a team like TCU to get our confidence back, nice easy match you know???
plus their coach is looking for a chance to play a better team - couple years ago when he scheduled stanford he thought they'd fit the bill but now they're not really a top 100 team anymore so that went out the window
Cardinal is and will always be top 20 team. On a good day, they are top 15, on a bad day they are top 30 team.
stop living in a by-gone era .. Stanford is worse than Virginia ... they get the nation's top recruits and can't win a thing with all the talents they have...
top recruits ? talent ? Not lately.
I don't like the landscape of college tennis right now. Things are better when Stanford,Illinois,Texas and Georgia are the top teams. Baylor in there too. Virginia and Duke suck as the candle-bearers.
Right, they lack that prestige and popularity those teams that you mentioned have. Stanford with Dick Gould were the darlings of America. Team to aspire to and Admire for all Americans. They were the shining example for all Americans should strive to be.
lately.. no but 4 years ago .. you were the tops .. now the women's Stanford team are the best on paper for their 2nd or 3rd year.. let's see if they can get a NCAA ring this year..
finally admitting Whit is doing a bad coaching job there.. .
yup, even i admired the dick gould teams - unfortunately anyone considering stanford nowadays has to play for some doofus named whit
get used to the new landscape - ramsey smith will be around recruiting his tail off and developing players for a while and zero of duke's singles players from tonight are graduating (just cunha this year)...and uva has no trouble reloading year after year, that's for sure
anyway, you have bigger concerns in your own neck of the woods with lots of cali teams out-recruiting and out-playing you now - same for you vicious - stanford and texas aren't even that relevant in their own states' tennis landscapes at the moment - how times change
I tell ya .. if USC can somehow win another title the next 2-3 years ,my hat is off to P.Smith .. he has proven to an elite coach with the 4peat but maybe he got lucky with Steve J and D.Winn there holding up the fort .. if he can win with this young team he has now .. I would rank him as one of the all time great college coaches .. as they say 'you must validate'..
Coach Diaz of Georgia is still the best in NCAA. It amazes me what he does with mediocre talent year after year.
he's up there in the pantheon already with the 4peat - that's hard as hell in the modern international landscape of college tennis where people are throwing the best the world has to offer at you year after year - he had top tier teams but always had them peaking at the right time, and i think a coach has a lot to do with how loose his players play at the big moments vs being scared to lose - his guys had the guts to go for their shots and go for the win in the big moments, so i can only assume he's a confidence-inducing guy
I could watch Axel Alvarez's forehand all day.
USC had steve Johnson, Sarmiento, Nguyen. Do you have to do anything at all as a coach ? Let them just go out there and play, I guess.
a person close to the team told me that the men's team are a real close knit family .. they are a real team .. that is held together by their head coach and coaches ..
Those guys are talented but they aren't on a level far above the top players of other elite teams. Other teams have talented guys too. I think Smith's coaching ability shows in Hanfmann clinching the title as a Freshman. It'll be interesting to see how far this USC team go go without a sure win at 1.
are you kidding me.. I followed these guys when they were kids here in SoCal.. Steve J. came onto USC over-weight and not in any kind of #1 player tennis shape .. Klahn and Ryan Thacher were at their time way way better recruits than Johnson and Nguyen ... that wasn't even a close comparison ..
USC seems to be struggling a bit in both 1 and 3 dubs.. not to mention the top and the bottom of the lineup. We'll see if the middle part of the lineup can hold up against UCLA but at the moment I'm not liking the lineups. Novikov vs. Sarmiento is a toss up both have been shaky. I'll have to give Giron the edge on Gomez taking into account their past history and how much Gomez has underperformed indoors. Puget is definitely the favorite at the 3 spot vs Quiroz. Hanfmann and Mkrtchian is a toss up as well depending more on how Mrktchian plays. Same story with Thompson vs. DeVroome. Sell has a way better indoor game than Johnson and Johnson has been struggling vs some weak opponents lately.
UCLA vs USC .. this would be the match of the tournament .. cross town rivals at a neutral location .. the winner will most likely have a letdown in the finals ..
Doubt either will have a letdown. Both teams haven't lost to any team besides each other for the past year. That's pretty impressive. Showcasing the strength of Socal tennis
well then, it was a good thing that USC has Robert Farah at #1. he was probably the best player in NCAA back then.
Stanford tends to get top recruits but never really develops them or they just get disinterested. Thacher and Clayton were prime examples of that
usc clearly doesn't have the same talent they had the last four years, but they are by no means going to have a "letdown" even if they beat ucla or vice versa. after this many years of winning they know how to bring it when they need to.
as for ucla, too much talent on that team to not be competitive every match. outside of UVA i think if ucla is firing on all cylinders, thats the next scariest team to play in the country. uva/osu should be a fun one as well and the finals should be another tight battle. no team has looked dominant quite yet.
Are you kidding me? Usc has the same if not more talent. Don't mistake Daniel Nguyen and Steve Johnson for talent. Those two came into USC and weren't the top recruits of their class. They worked hard to achieve the success they have. Usc is by far the hardest working team in college tennis and that is why they have continued success
steve was still tops outside of klahn and thacher for the most part, and nguyen was also a top 20 recruit according to tennisrecruiting. top 5 blue chip and a top 20 5star = talent. any team would recruit either of those guys. upside on them has proven to be astronomical. so yes, they had more talent with both of those guys in the lineup. and every guy thats playing now was on last years team as well so i don't see how you can say they have more talent now after losing the arguable GOAT in SJ and Dwin. unless de vroome is the next big thing, i don't see it.
as for hard work, every top team works hard. thats a bold statement to say usc is the hardest working because you don't really know that.
I bet you if college tennis played 1-8, Usc would absolutely demolish any other team. That's a testament to the amount of talent they have overall.
I bet you they would not demolish UVa and Duke 1-8. You are familiar with Wang and Grant, but perhaps are not familiar with the 7-8 players at UVa and Duke.
Pretty hard to say USC is the hardest working team in college tennis when they all have NCAA weekly workout limits on the amount of time they can spend in organized practice.
UV and Duke are truly deep in their talent pool .. next year they should be deeper and with that UCLA ... on another note.. why are so many top SoCal players sort of scared off from going to USC ? for instance Marcos G. ,I thought for sure he was a perfect fit for USC .. the only thing I heard why he choose UCLA over USC was because he didn't think he would be making the line-up..
but I see next year's recruit that UCLA are getting... WOW.. but then again,they are all-American kids ..
Thacher was stuggling with back problems most of his college career and Clayton struggled with career decisions after his freshman year. When Clayton realized he wasn't good enough to play professional tennis, he struggled with motivation and few injuries here and there. That is not the coach's fault.
every top tennis athlete plays hurt once in while ,last season S.Johnson was out most of the fall and winter season b/c of his shoulder .. it's up to the trainers and coaches to see they all get fixed up to peak at the right time...
when it's no-body's fault and no-body's job and no- body's to blame ,, that's when they fail -- grasshopper ..
I used to be a Stanford fan when Thacher was there ,I was hoping he would develop to be the next American tennis star.. I'm still shaking my head saying why didn't it happen ..and now he's on the mini tour... I'm thinking college tennis killed his chances .. too bad ..
Ok, if you know Ryan Thacher then you know he always had back problems and was never going to really develop into or have a decent Pro career. Am I correct ? If you followed Ryan, or know him, you would know this.
and I do agree that Stanford could use better trainers. I realized this when I saw Alex Kim in NCAA tournament lose a match because he was dehydrated and wasn't given proper advice from his trainers.
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