2013 NCAA Men's Tennis Tournament - Champaign, IL
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Clemson_tennis
Legend
UCLA should be better next season with the addition of Brymer and MacDonald. And lose none of the top 6 unless Novikov goes pro.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I thought the only lost Jenkins (which admittedly is no small loss), and they have great recruits. I have no idea if they can go on a streak of championships, just putting it out there.
Automator
Semi-Pro
UVA loses Jenkins and Uriguen. They add the #1 recruiting class (although it's #1 by a nose over UCLA's class).
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my bad, thought Alex Domijan was a senior.
Me, too. Seems like he's been around for about seven years. lol
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
he was fairly subdued today. He did question calls, but players from both teams were doing that, as well as protesting noise from the crowd, protesting second serve tosses which were caught, but which they thought the server touched.
There were some eye rolling moments which presented college tennis players as spoiled, entitled, and bit*y, but overall things were fairly good, knowing that things like shouting across courts and making a scene after winning a set is the norm.
Fans were pretty good. One UVA fan and a small group of UCLA fans were pretty obnoxious though, to the point of being classless (the UCLA fans more so). But, they were in the minority.
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CourtlyLove
Rookie
Will the annoying cheering and screaming be less for the individual tournament?
TopDawg
G.O.A.T.
Yes, no one else will be there to make any noise aside from maybe a parent or fellow teammate that is still playing.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
I've found that the bench players (ones who play like 7-10) are the worst offenders in terms of obnoxious and sometimes classless yelling.
axel89
Banned
dang we lose jarmere jenkins that sucks
I just don't think recruiting class typically means that much the first year there. Great freshman come in but rarely make a significant mark moving well into the lineup till at least soph year and beyond. It is boys coming in to play against men. They all think they are coming in to play #1 or top of lineup however, very few do unless they go into lower level team/school. Reality hits in the fall.
axel89
Banned
great point the difference between the top hs players and college players are huge. On another note what's happening on the women's side of draw?
Ya, unless Novikov leaves, I just don't see where those guys are going to play. You can win all you want in juniors, doesn't mean much coiming into lineup as freshman for top 5 teams (or not that often). Again, it's the boys joining the men thing. Don't see them doing much till second or third year in.
TopDawg
G.O.A.T.
Not that it matters but it was interesting that on the all NCAA Tournament Team the National Champs only had 1 entry in singles.
#1: Blaz Rola
#2: Marcos Giron
#3: Mitchell Frank
#4: Devin McCarthy
#5: Garrett Brasseaux
#6: Karue Sell
They did have 2 on the doubles with Jenkins/Styslinger at 1 and Shane/Uriguen at 3.
#1: Blaz Rola
#2: Marcos Giron
#3: Mitchell Frank
#4: Devin McCarthy
#5: Garrett Brasseaux
#6: Karue Sell
They did have 2 on the doubles with Jenkins/Styslinger at 1 and Shane/Uriguen at 3.
Automator
Semi-Pro
What sport are you watching? Both Domijan and Frank won the All-American and were ranked #1 in their freshman years. Alex Clayton's best year at Stanford was his first. The #5 seed in the singles tournament is a freshman.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Depends on the player. But some players are actually better early in their careers. From what I have seen of Brymer(absurdly good footwork to set up aggressive shots) he should be a factor immediately. Who will fall out of the UCLA top 6? Who knows but it will be a battle.
When was the last time UVa did NOT have a freshman in the top 6? How about USC? I guess Karue Sell was a redshirt freshman this year (came in last spring but did not play, maybe not eligible yet). De Vroome was top 6 for USC when healthy. Robbie Bellamy, who is below the top UCLA and UVa recruits, has a good shot at the top 6 at USC next spring with Gomez turning pro. With Novikov supposedly turning pro, and Maxime Tabatruong (#7) and Alex Brigham (#8 ) graduating, there is not much question that UCLA will have a freshman in the top 6. I would bet that Thai Kwiatkowski will be top 5 for UVa next year, probably top 4.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Does John Morrissey have decent chance of upsetting this guy in the 1st round ? He is playing some guys named Anthony Rossi from Kentucky. he is seeded player
Different conversation. Sure they can come in but we were talking having a huge impact to the team their first year. Whether you swap Brymer for Sell isn't gonna make a huge difference. There aren't that many Mitchell Frank's was the point.
Tennis mom
New User
Turning a Pro is a business decision. And Novikov is not a Carribien Sunset to be liked by everyone. Sorry he is not your favorite. Just get over it.
It is nobody's business what he is doing next.
Get over what? Love your spelling btw, they have spell checker online now. lol. And college sunset wasn't an insult, it was a way to say he was leaving college tennis. Pissy that they lost maybe? He built the reputation he has and ironically nothing I said in these posts was negative about him. But thanks for reminding us about the views about him out there....have a great day! 
If UCLA's recruits only compete for #6, that is fine with me. But Styslinger and Ryan Shane competed at #4 and #5 all year, which means they helped us be better at three positions, and they were not considered to be in the league of Domijan and Frank as recruits. Justin Shane was a low blue chip and played #5. De Vroome played #5 for USC this year until injured. Wagland played #2 for Georgia until KU Singh left and he moved up to #1. Libietis played #1 for Tennessee a year ago as a freshman. Giron was #4 for UCLA as a freshman a year ago. Sarmiento was #4 for a national champion USC two years ago as a freshman. Lots of recruits, every year, play above #6 for teams ranked in the top 5. Do they have to play #3 or higher before they matter?
Vicious Vik
Semi-Pro
UCLA got screwed on that call. Cheap call. Shame UVA's first title is slightly tainted.
Jakes On A Plane
Semi-Pro
It's a shame we all won't get the seconds back in our lives from reading your idiotic posts.
B1G Tennis
New User
I'm pretty sad that I missed this match today. It looks incredibly close and random. Heck, one can make decent argument that six of the seven points went to the underdog (with the only exception apparently being decided by a call on match point). There isn't much more you can ask for beyond that. The tourney got off to a slow start, but the last two rounds were fantastic.
Vicious Vik
Semi-Pro
excuse me?
Automator
Semi-Pro
Even UCLA coach said it was the correct call. His foot clearly hit the net in the replay.
10isplayer
Semi-Pro
UCLA will lose one of their top two because they're turning pro but Romain Bogaerts of MIss St is going to transfer there.
Art Rust Jr
Rookie
If you're referring to the foot hitting the net, it sounds by all acounts, even the UCLA coach's, that it was an obvious call.
The thing that cracked me up, and thank you TopDawg for all your excellent coverage, was the call that Frank made on his first match point. An essential moonball that clearly landed inside the line (on the side where all the fans were), and he calls it out. Just goes to show you how often these guys see what they want to see so often.
Vicious Vik
Semi-Pro
according to who?
B1G Tennis
New User
Yeah, Kwiatkowski is an internationally accomplished junior who gave Novikov a tough battle at Kalamazoo last year. I think he'll probably be your #4 next year, with Corinteli having a great chance to play #5 or 6.
Farren hasn't played junior tournaments recently, but based on past results and his futures scores, he'll probably start at 4 for the Trojans, and Bellamy will be competing for a starting spot.
At UCLA, all three recruits (McDonald, Brymer, and DiGiulio) have a chance at starting. Throw in a potential top 15 national player and likely #1 at Texas (Goldhoff) and a likely tourney qualifier and #1 at UNC (Schnieder) and I think next year sets up to be a great class for freshmen. And that isn't even consider the international recruits.
Vicious Vik
Semi-Pro
see when it's Virginia who makes that call it's "see what he wants to see" but if a UCLA player had made that call then it would be "classless cheater".
Just an interesting thought.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I was there. It was very unfortunate, very freakish, but Puget touched the net. it was called immediately. No one was upset by the call. Puget didn't protest, the UCLA coach didn't protest. The fans gasped, not because they thought it was the wrong call, but because it was so dramatic to have something like that happen on match point. Yeah, it sucks. UCLA was good enough to win, but didn't. That happens.
Art Rust Jr
Rookie
Not really. Die hard UCLA fans would call any UVA player or any player from any other team a classless cheater if a bad call is made.
Same for UVA fans for players on opposing teams. That's just the way fans are.
I've been a big Brian Boland fan for a lot of years for the way he has run that program, and I've read the Sabre for at least five years, and really appreciate all the loyalty and support that their fans show.
That being said, a high percentage of regular Sabre posters believe that UVA players have never made a bad call, and that opposing players just know how to play the system better than their beloved Hoos.
Like I said, that's just fans being fans.
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
Virginia didn't even make the call. LOL
Newby
Semi-Pro
Is there any truth to this?
10isplayer
Semi-Pro
Just watch and see. Bogaerts is definitely transferring from Miss St and I'm fairly positive he's going to UCLA
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Why would he wan't to transfer from Miss State? I've heard rumors of another one of their players wanting to transfer as well, perhaps to Clemson.
socaltennnis
Rookie
Karue Sell had a great week. He took out most of the dominant no. 6's this year including Uriguen and Tahir. Will be interesting to see where he plays in the lineup next year.
Congrats UVA fans - glad the west coast folks won't be able to use their stupid reply "this is outdoors where UVA always chokes lol - they won't win" in response to any comment about UVA being NCAA title favorites anymore
The best team won - even if they weren't playing the best tennis for much of the finals - Jenkins came up with the biggest win of his career in his final match, taking down a hot Novikov - and frank justified every coach who has always pleaded "fight to the end and get one more ball back - you never know what'll happen"
I was also very impressed with boland during the final games standing back, not getting involved in arguments or even much coaching, and trusting the man that he had recruited and helped grow up for a few years to get it done - that side of the screen coaches hug while all the players mobbed frank was awesome - well done boland
The best team won - even if they weren't playing the best tennis for much of the finals - Jenkins came up with the biggest win of his career in his final match, taking down a hot Novikov - and frank justified every coach who has always pleaded "fight to the end and get one more ball back - you never know what'll happen"
I was also very impressed with boland during the final games standing back, not getting involved in arguments or even much coaching, and trusting the man that he had recruited and helped grow up for a few years to get it done - that side of the screen coaches hug while all the players mobbed frank was awesome - well done boland
Automator
Semi-Pro
It would appear the answer is "No."
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Here is the Full 4 hours of UCLA vs Virginia match tape recorded apparently. Not sure which station did this ? but Very nice. I am trying to download this since I don't think this will stay here forever.
http://www.ncaa.com/video?ncaa_mid=vod:tennis-men#!playlists/sports/tennis-men/d1
UCLA had match point and hit the net ??? WOW, that is tough. I don't think that has ever happened in NCAA history ever.
http://www.ncaa.com/video?ncaa_mid=vod:tennis-men#!playlists/sports/tennis-men/d1
UCLA had match point and hit the net ??? WOW, that is tough. I don't think that has ever happened in NCAA history ever.
I hear 2 UCLA players will not be coming back next season... that's why all those new recruits are coming in...
