2014 French Open General Discussion Thread

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Who will win Roland Garros 2014?


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NADALRECORD

Banned
Federer must be very confident about a clean shot at the Double Career Grand Slam, considering his 2-1 record vs Djokovic this year (and 1-0 on clay), and Nadal heading for an early exit according to the hype :D
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Federer must be very confident about a clean shot at the Double Career Grand Slam, considering his 2-1 record vs Djokovic this year (and 1-0 on clay), and Nadal heading for an early exit according to the hype :D

Don't get your hopes up too high about Fed beating Djokovic. It wouldn't surprise me if Berdych took him out in the quarters.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Federer must be very confident about a clean shot at the Double Career Grand Slam, considering his 2-1 record vs Djokovic this year (and 1-0 on clay), and Nadal heading for an early exit according to the hype :D

I actually think he's got a good chance to go all the way. Nadal is probably going out before F considering his tough draw.

And then it's between Federer and Djoko I feel. But Federer is in a pretty good shape and is the only one apart from Nadal that has won FO before.
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
The key to Nadal being upset before the semis is:

What are the chances of a player beating Nadal twice in a row on clay with the 2nd win being at Roland Garros?

That's what Almagro and Ferrer are facing.....
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
The key to Nadal being upset before the semis is:

What are the chances of a player beating Nadal twice in a row on clay with the 2nd win being at Roland Garros?

That's what Almagro and Ferrer are facing.....

Must be bigger chance than if they've never beat him on clay before at all. Alamagro and Ferrer must think that they would've won their matches even if it had been a 5 setter.
 

firepanda

Professional
The key to Nadal being upset before the semis is:

What are the chances of a player beating Nadal twice in a row on clay with the 2nd win being at Roland Garros?

That's what Almagro and Ferrer are facing.....

GIVEN that they've already beaten him the first time. Go and take a basic stats course. As a poster above me said, they have an increased chance of beating him since they've already beaten him this season.
 
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014

Guest
Berdych is the one man Federer wanted to avoid in the quarters. Berdych has won their last TWO slam meetings.

Federer leads Murray 4-1 in the slam H2H and Murray has never reached a clay final.

Raonic has never reached a slam quarter.

Ferrer is as easy as they come for Roger. 14-0 H2H :lol:
 
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Carsomyr

Legend
Dimitrov should be happy; legendary though he is, not sure how Dr. Ivo is going to recover right after playing a tournament to its final round right before RG.
 

Wynter

Legend
If a miracle occurs, we could finally see Tomic vs Hewitt

Tomic has to beat Gasquet, Hewitt has to topple Berlocq
 
Can we all agree that this is going to be a truly exciting French Open! Lots of potential winners, champions, dark horses. I can't wait!
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
Dimitrov should be happy; legendary though he is, not sure how Dr. Ivo is going to recover right after playing a tournament to its final round right before RG.
I never understand why a player with GS ambitions play until the last minute before the slams. I mean, he just reached the SF of Rome, so he had his preparation for RG.
 

Tenez101

Banned
Nadal draw looks like pretty calm sailing until the semis. I can only imagine Ferrer giving Nadal any real trouble in b05. Manislas could be real trouble though.

I have a feeling Djokovic will have to go through at least one 5-setter before the semis (where I feel he'll face Federer).

Still expect Djokodal epic final.
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
if Murray were to win this tournament it would be the greatest feat in the history of the universe (usual TT exaggeration)
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
Berdych is the one man Federer wanted to avoid in the quarters. Berdych has won their last TWO slam meetings.

Federer leads Murray 4-1 in the slam H2H and Murray has never reached a clay final.

Raonic has never reached a slam quarter.

Ferrer is as easy as they come for Roger. 14-0 H2H :lol:

Berdych is rubbish on clay though. Fed won't be shanking as much since he has more time on clay. Berdych's poor movement on the surface will be exploited a lot of Fed plays him. Just watch how slow Berdych's reaction is, if you watch the Madrid QF against Nadal, Berdych never reaches to the ball in time if Rafa continue goes back to his BH.

On anyway Berdych probably won't even make it to the QF.
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
GIVEN that they've already beaten him the first time. Go and take a basic stats course. As a poster above me said, they have an increased chance of beating him since they've already beaten him this season.

In reality, the last thing you want to do is motivate Nadal. I'll be shocked if either of them take a set. On top of that, Roland Garros suits Nadal more than any other event, and Ferrer has traditionally struggled at Roland Garros (including last year's beatdown in the final). Remember Nadal was within a point of losing to Ferrer last year on clay, and then a few weeks later Nadal dismissed Ferrer in straight sets at Roland Garros. As for Almagro.....will he even beat Haas?

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romeo8880

G.O.A.T.
Really funny to hear everybody say Federer got an easy draw when he has to play Gulbis before he even reaches the quarters.
 

MindoverMatter

Professional
Really funny to hear everybody say Federer got an easy draw when he has to play Gulbis before he even reaches the quarters.

I looked up their head to head just to see what it was. They met 3 times in 2010, and that's it! A weird set of coincidences brought them together twice on clay and once on hard court. The clay H2H is 1-1. Every match has gone to 3 sets.
 

Carsomyr

Legend
I looked up their head to head just to see what it was. They met 3 times in 2010, and that's it! A weird set of coincidences brought them together twice on clay and once on hard court. The clay H2H is 1-1. Every match has gone to 3 sets.

Well, after 2010, Gulbis decided there more important things in the world, like champagne, hookers, and pouring champagne on hookers. Incidentally, his ranking plummeted.
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
The problem with a lot of these so-called 'threats' is that they have trouble even winning one match. I've seen this regularly at slams, the threats being taken out early and the draw being a cakewalk. Who even knows if Gulbis will win a set, let alone a match.
 

Carsomyr

Legend
The problem with a lot of these so-called 'threats' is that they have trouble even winning one match. I've seen this regularly at slams, the threats being taken out early and the draw being a cakewalk. Who even knows if Gulbis will win a set, let alone a match.

Gulbis has been rounding into some good clay form, losing to eventual winner Nishikori in Barcelona, and clay stalwart Ferrer in Madrid and Rome, and he's going to have a very good shot at the title in Nice. However, I'm not convinced that players like Gulbis, who want to be making an impact at the majors rather than just making money, should be playing in Nice or Dusseldorf the week before the FO.
 

spinovic

Hall of Fame
The problem with a lot of these so-called 'threats' is that they have trouble even winning one match. I've seen this regularly at slams, the threats being taken out early and the draw being a cakewalk. Who even knows if Gulbis will win a set, let alone a match.

I agree. Looking ahead, a R16 between he and Federer could be interesting and entertaining, but there is no guarantee either guy will make it, and especially with Gulbis. But, he is a guy with the physical ability to trouble and beat anyone. Unfortunately, although he is definitely improving, he is a guy with the mental game to lose to anyone.
 

maxrenn

Legend
Draw looks pretty hard for Rafa with Ferrer in his quarter and Warwrinka in his half, I'm sure he would have preferred Djokovic's draw. However it is what it is and he needs to win those 6 matches before he fights the ultimate competitor (Novak). Personally I think this is Novak's year, he is in great form, well rested and the draw is not too unkind whilst Rafa is at his arguably weakest and he couldn't do 5 in a row in 2009 so why would 2014 be different. I'll enjoy the tournament anyway as long as we don't get a final like 2009 or even last year (though we got the epic semi last year).
 

barry

Hall of Fame
Draw looks pretty hard for Rafa with Ferrer in his quarter and Warwrinka in his half, I'm sure he would have preferred Djokovic's draw. However it is what it is and he needs to win those 6 matches before he fights the ultimate competitor (Novak). Personally I think this is Novak's year, he is in great form, well rested and the draw is not too unkind whilst Rafa is at his arguably weakest and he couldn't do 5 in a row in 2009 so why would 2014 be different. I'll enjoy the tournament anyway as long as we don't get a final like 2009 or even last year (though we got the epic semi last year).

I sure Novak would love to have Nadal's draw. Nadal lost to Ferrer once and Stan is not a clay court player. Novak has Murray, Federer, and Raonic to beat.

If Nadal does not make the final with this draw, something is really wrong with him.
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
Wawrinka is like a bye, because he's not a good Roland Garros player, and the ball kicks up extra high at Roland Garros, far more than in Australia. So I'd be shocked if Wawrinka even takes a set from Nadal. Don't let the AO fool you, its an extremely lopsided match-up. I'm glad Murray will have an eye on Wimbledon the whole time, so Wawrinka can make the semis.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Draw looks pretty hard for Rafa with Ferrer in his quarter and Warwrinka in his half, I'm sure he would have preferred Djokovic's draw. However it is what it is and he needs to win those 6 matches before he fights the ultimate competitor (Novak). Personally I think this is Novak's year, he is in great form, well rested and the draw is not too unkind whilst Rafa is at his arguably weakest and he couldn't do 5 in a row in 2009 so why would 2014 be different. I'll enjoy the tournament anyway as long as we don't get a final like 2009 or even last year (though we got the epic semi last year).

What was wrong with 2009? :twisted:
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Draw looks pretty hard for Rafa with Ferrer in his quarter and Warwrinka in his half, I'm sure he would have preferred Djokovic's draw. However it is what it is and he needs to win those 6 matches before he fights the ultimate competitor (Novak). Personally I think this is Novak's year, he is in great form, well rested and the draw is not too unkind whilst Rafa is at his arguably weakest and he couldn't do 5 in a row in 2009 so why would 2014 be different. I'll enjoy the tournament anyway as long as we don't get a final like 2009 or even last year (though we got the epic semi last year).

I'm not so sure Nadal's draw is that much tougher than Djoker's. He's got Tsonga (who had four MPs against him in 2012) in R4, Nishikori/Raonic QF, and Fed SF. Let's not forget potentially dangerous opponents like Chardy in R2 and former Top 10 Cilic in R3.

The only easy matches I envision for Djokovic are the first two rounds.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Wawrinka is like a bye, because he's not a good Roland Garros player, and the ball kicks up extra high at Roland Garros, far more than in Australia. So I'd be shocked if Wawrinka even takes a set from Nadal. Don't let the AO fool you, its an extremely lopsided match-up. I'm glad Murray will have an eye on Wimbledon the whole time, so Wawrinka can make the semis.

Wawrinka won't be a threat. Nadal has never really lost to, barely lost a set. But Ferrer and Alamagro can be tricky. Even Thiem if he goes all in. And Fognini can beat anybody on a good day without meltdowns.

Nadal is shaky as hell, and everybody knows it. And the fact that it's going to be cold and wet is a nightmare for Nadal.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
I'm not so sure Nadal's draw is that much tougher than Djoker's. He's got Tsonga (who had four MPs against him in 2012) in R4, Nishikori/Raonic QF, and Fed SF. Let's not forget potentially dangerous opponents like Chardy in R2 and former Top 10 Cilic in R3.

The only easy matches I envision for Djokovic are the first two rounds.

Djoko has got the best draw by far. Sure Tsonga in 2012, but he was ranked top 10 then.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Djoko has got the best draw by far. Sure Tsonga in 2012, but he was ranked top 10 then.

Nadal has a very easy draw before a potential QF vs Ferrer. Sure Almagro is in there, but I doubt he'll take a set from Nadal this time around. Ferrer and Wawrinka/Murray should be tougher than Nishi/Raonic and Fed, but Nole could be tired heading into the second week, if he makes it there at all.

Though both of them would gladly trade places with Federer at this point.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Nadal has a very easy draw before a potential QF vs Ferrer. Sure Almagro is in there, but I doubt he'll take a set from Nadal this time around. Ferrer and Wawrinka/Murray should be tougher than Nishi/Raonic and Fed, but Nole could be tired heading into the second week, if he makes it there at all.

Though both of them would gladly trade places with Federer at this point.

Don't forget Fognini. If he's on godmode then he's dangerous!
 
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