2015 ATP Sudden Death League - Monte Carlo

fecaleagle

Professional
If there is withdrawal involved then the original pick is voided and your back up would be used unless you said before the match started that you specifically wanted to stick with your original pick

When did we decide on this? In Rio, I thought the consensus was that when a lucky loser played, the match should not be voided.

What do you think the rule should be if the opponent of your pick pulls out before the match and is replaced by a LL - should we make that match void to choose from since it'd be a last minute change and therefore your back-up pick would come into play or should your original pick stand regardless of the opponent?

Like a little feedback from the group on which way to go - I'm thinking it'd make more sense to make the match void since that may change the dynamics of the matchup.

I think the original pick should stand. People are going to be annoyed either way if they end up getting burned, but I think it would be significantly more frustrating to have my primary voided, especially if he ends up beating the LL and the backup loses. I think the possibility of an opponent's withdrawal is simply another element of chance that we have to either accept or take into consideration when making our picks. I feel like 9/10, I'd want to stick to with my primary pick anyway. What would happen in the event that the backup had already lost? If the original pick were voided, you'd be eliminated (or there'd need to be another contingency plan to support this contingency plan).

Just my two cents.

I'd probably go with having the original pick stand as a default, unless of course the poster explicitly requests otherwise. Due to the very nature of being a LL, it's logical to assume that in the vast majority of cases a LL will be an equal or lower-quality player than the original opponent of the pick. Therefore, it seems logical to assume that a poster's confidence in their pick to win would usually be the same or higher if they face a LL instead of their original opponent.

In like Pablo Cruise, "When I go to Rio..."

A win vs a LL sub should stand. It's not a walkover, which the new rule was adopted for.

In for my first clay tournament of the year.

Primary pick vs LL sounds good to me unless the posters changes his pick.
 

fecaleagle

Professional
Both of my Day 1 picks were good, but I went with Ramos knowing that Istomin was liable to withdraw from the event, so it doesn't seem right to void that pick. Then again, I'll survive either way... :)
 

TopDawg

G.O.A.T.
When did we decide on this? In Rio, I thought the consensus was that when a lucky loser played, the match should not be voided.

I actually couldn't remember what we decided so I went with the same thing that were doing for walkover. Looks like the consensus was to let the LL pick stand so I'll switch those back to have your original pick count.

I'll have to update the rules about LL's too.
 
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Deleted member 688153

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A certain Frenchman shall Simon his best tennis and easily progress on day 2. :D

If not, Thiem surely will.
 
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