2015 Australian Open Mens 4th Round: Andy Murray vs. Grigor Dimitrov

[speedysteve]

Previous set I think it was:
Dimi didn't declare a clear not-up and took the point. The umpire saw the vid afterwards and acknowledged it was not-up but too late the score had been called.
After that Murray was not exactly going to 'help' Dimi with any sportsmanship!

 

[speedysteve]

I thought Murray would win in straights but he had his usual choking moment when he served for the match in the third. Oh well

Be a bit boring if there wer no wobbles or chokes!
Terminator Tennis, no thanks - comes close enough with Karlov when he's on form - However, I like a bit of what some call serve-botting - He is not a machine and it is a valid way to play - well if you are 6'11"

 

[stiggytennis]

Good,entertaining match,with nice variety.
But Dimi choked!
Made a bright start going 3-0 up,and loses set.
Second set Muzza choked,and Dimi took it.
3rd Muzza played some great tennis.
4th,Dimi 5-2 up and loses next 5 games and match,oh dear.
Overall Murray played really well and soaked up pretty much everything Dimitrov had,well played.
Dimitrov,collapsed at important moments,similar to his QF with Nadal last year and SF with Nole at Wimby.
He was right there,created opportunities for himself,but couldn't convert into sets,especially the 4th,I was ready for a 5th,and I'm sure many others were too,but to no avail.
He showed more this time how fragile he can be mentally.
He certainly has the ability,his weaknesses being his mentality and his TSOHB lands short alot,but his slice is very good.
Serve is dodgy at times,I get worried when he's on a second serve,because it doesn't look safe,he seems liable for DF.
It lands short too,and looked slow like Murray's.
Positively speaking,his forehand looked good and his movement was a revelation to me,so good!
His tactics were like how he played W,grass court style at times.
I hope he learns,and does better from these big matches,because he could easily become like Tsonga,Gasquet,Monfils etc.

 

[Legend of Borg]

came back from work and I was told Grigor was leading 5-2 in the 4th set and had set point on Murray's serve?

can anyone confirm?

this is beyond dissapointing if he let this many chances go to win in 5

 

[jm1980]

came back from work and I was told Grigor was leading 5-2 in the 4th set and had set point on Murray's serve?

can anyone confirm?

this is beyond dissapointing if he let this many chances go to win in 5

Yes, both are correct.

Although in all fairness, Murray should have won the second set. So it's kind of a wash.

 

[stiggytennis]

Delete.123

 

[ArcspacE]

When did you start watching tennis then?

1996-97. .

 

[Legend of Borg]

Yes, both are correct.

Although in all fairness, Murray should have won the second set. So it's kind of a wash.

sign of a bad competitor

how many big match players let a 5-2 lead slip?

that's just embarassing, i don't care who he's playing against, no excuses

 

[Desertman]

1996-97. .

As recently as that? You've missed so much!

 

[GhostDog]

Murray is just a better and more talented player than Dimitrov.

"Several grand slams" LOL, for now lets hope he wins even one. I definitely hope to see him win a slam one day. You can't fault the effort the guy puts into these matches.

Yeah, that was insanely dumb comment by Chris Everett.

Just not seeing the mental toughness needed to be a champ by Dimitrov to be a GS winner. Maybe he'll put all together one day.

That was a major choke in the 4th set. I was pretty sure this was going 5.

 

[jm1980]

Is Dimitrov the first person to ever break a racquet in half through a smash from just one hit? I've seen players smash racquets continuously and can't even dent it.

I think it only broke in half he stepped on it. You can see in slow-mo here (0:18) the racquet is still in one piece after the smash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJXKJWpcI6s

Here you can see at 0:07 he steps on it to break it in half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H11m7c2eKw

 

[fundrazer]

Is Dimitrov the first person to ever break a racquet in half through a smash from just one hit? I've seen players smash racquets continuously and can't even dent it.

Safin has probably done it before. I also remember a clip of him bending a racquet on his knee and snapping it at the throat.

 

[jm1980]

Safin has probably done it before. I also remember a clip of him bending a racquet on his knee and snapping it at the throat.

Safin broke a racquet in two just by casually throwing it against the bench:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVr-pqWVSDU

He's the greatest racquet smasher of all time.

 

[firepanda]

Firstly, let us all acknowledge that Dimitrov is the GOAT racquet smasher. I think he narrowly beats out Safin because he saves it for climactic moments and then it's extremely explosive.

Dimitrov has really improved with Rasheed. Movement used to be a bit of a problem for him, but now he's one of the fastest in the top 20. I think the big hole in his game is his predictability. He never manages the backhand down the line and when he runs around a backhand, it's almost always for an off-forehand. But yeah, he's going to win a few slams when the current crop leave.

Could someone explain what happened with the calls? I remember a few close ones on Dimitrov's shots but no-one made a bit deal out of them.

 

[Terenigma]

Could someone explain what happened with the calls? I remember a few close ones on Dimitrov's shots but no-one made a bit deal out of them.

I think the only "big" call that came was the one in his final service game. At 0-15 he served, Murray got to the ball and hit a return into the net. There was a call from the linesperson that was immediately corrected but it came just as Murray was about to hit the ball so they replayed the point.

He lost the following points and got broken to love but that call cost him his focus because what should of been 15-15, became 0-30. It was the correct decision to replay the point concidering what happened, but the call should of never come in the first place.

The other unlucky point people refer to was the match point, Murray hit the net but it went over and dropped just on the other side of the net. Harsh way to lose but yeah.

 

[firepanda]

I think the only "big" call that came was the one in his final service game. At 0-15 he served, Murray got to the ball and hit a return into the net. There was a call from the linesperson that was immediately corrected but it came just as Murray was about to hit the ball so they replayed the point.

He lost the following points and got broken to love but that call cost him his focus because what should of been 15-15, became 0-30. It was the correct decision to replay the point concidering what happened, but the call should of never come in the first place.

The other unlucky point people refer to was the match point, Murray hit the net but it went over and dropped just on the other side of the net. Harsh way to lose but yeah.

Ok thanks. Yeah, that's perfectly reasonable, if unlucky. Honestly, it was bad of Dimitrov to let it get in his head like that.

 

[jaggy]

been offline all day, just wanted to add my congratulations

 

[The Green Mile]

Wow, congrats to Andy. Too tired to watch the match unfortunately. Might watch a replay or highlights. Heard Dimi choked in the 4th. Ah well..... Glad Andy is through anyway. I think we will see an Andy vs Rafa Semi.

 

[Aretium]

Umpire ruined the match. I have no idea how anyone can support murray's style of tennis. You have got to be a lunatic. If you love defence go and watch a different sport.

 

[The Green Mile]

Umpire ruined the match. I have no idea how anyone can support murray's style of tennis. You have got to be a lunatic. If you love defence go and watch a different sport.

Wise words. :roll:

 

[dlk]

Umpire ruined the match. I have no idea how anyone can support murray's style of tennis. You have got to be a lunatic. If you love defence go and watch a different sport.

I love defense. It is the one area where hard work/training can equalize talent.

 

[West Coast Ace]

Jokes aside, I think its unreasonable to consider Dimitrov a subpar competitor.Even in the final game he still had belief he could break back. I think its safe to say that Dimitrov won't win a dozen majors now, but he can definitely improve a lot moving forward. I came into this thread earlier and pretty much said some harsh things about dimitrov, but I'm watching the replay of the match now and am withdrawing my previous comment. He is still 23 and will undoubtedly have more chances at majors.

Well said. The bitter trolls and people who don't know tennis rip Dimitrov. Those who know the game know how good he could be with a little work. Murray abused his BH. That can be improved. Dimitrov's serve needs work - better % of 1sts in and a more reliable 2nd. Deeper approaches.

This was a very entertaining match and could have gone either way.

 

[Legend of Borg]

Umpire ruined the match. I have no idea how anyone can support murray's style of tennis. You have got to be a lunatic. If you love defence go and watch a different sport.

watching murray = watching chelsea

it sux

 

[DownThe Line66]

I love defense. It is the one area where hard work/training can equalize talent.

Exactly. Murray is all work and no talent. He's a cart horse with a racquet.

The amateur that made that corrected call at 5-5 0-15 in the fourth should never be allowed into Melbourne Park again. Like, ever...

 

[dlk]

Exactly. Murray is all work and no talent. He's a cart horse with a racquet.

The amateur that made that corrected call at 5-5 0-15 in the fourth should never be allowed into Melbourne Park again. Like, ever...

Not disputing the call; I just like players who have the physical ability to defend-see Nadal.

 

[Ripster]

I think the only "big" call that came was the one in his final service game. At 0-15 he served, Murray got to the ball and hit a return into the net. There was a call from the linesperson that was immediately corrected but it came just as Murray was about to hit the ball so they replayed the point.

He lost the following points and got broken to love but that call cost him his focus because what should of been 15-15, became 0-30. It was the correct decision to replay the point concidering what happened, but the call should of never come in the first place.

The other unlucky point people refer to was the match point, Murray hit the net but it went over and dropped just on the other side of the net. Harsh way to lose but yeah.

I was about to comment on this. Dimitrov got kind of screwed here since Murray missed the return, it should have been 15-15 but because the lines person called out and corrected himself they had to replay the point which Dimitrov lost. At 0-30 instead of 15-15 late in the fourth set, it was a huge point.

I thought maybe the umpire would have given the point to Dimitrov but I suppose the call might have affected Murray. I dunno seems like this a gray area.

 

[cucio]

Firstly, let us all acknowledge that Dimitrov is the GOAT racquet smasher. I think he narrowly beats out Safin because he saves it for climactic moments and then it's extremely explosive.

Nah, let's not. You may call him "baby Safin" if you must. :twisted:

 

[Aretium]

I love defense. It is the one area where hard work/training can equalize talent.

It is a different talent. Talent is overrated.

 

[Chanwan]

I was about to comment on this. Dimitrov got kind of screwed here since Murray missed the return, it should have been 15-15 but because the lines person called out and corrected himself they had to replay the point which Dimitrov lost. At 0-30 instead of 15-15 late in the fourth set, it was a huge point.

I thought maybe the umpire would have given the point to Dimitrov but I suppose the call might have affected Murray. I dunno seems like this a gray area.

It's kind of a gray area - where the umpire makes a judgment call as to whether the point should be replayed or not - but it happens a lot.

That said, Dimi has only himself to blame for sending his forehand 1,5 meters long on his approach shot on Murray's return in the next point.

 

[ArcspacE]

sign of a bad competitor

how many big match players let a 5-2 lead slip?

that's just embarassing, i don't care who he's playing against, no excuses

The only embarrassing thing here is your ignorant and mypoic comments for a fellow countryman and quite possibly one of the greatest sportsman to ever emerge from the small nation (in terms of sports achievements)

He played some great tennis and didn't crumble like so many keyboard experts predicted on here - gave Murray a hell of a game - the 2nd set comeback was world-class tennis. Pity his serve never showed up or it could have been all so different. Not to mention 2 bad calls at crucial times. He'll go on to have a glittering career and live a massive mark on tennis while bitter and jealous tennis tactical behemoths like yourself will type away vitriol and hate on their keyboards.

 

[cc0509]

Jokes aside, I think its unreasonable to consider Dimitrov a subpar competitor.Even in the final game he still had belief he could break back. I think its safe to say that Dimitrov won't win a dozen majors now, but he can definitely improve a lot moving forward. I came into this thread earlier and pretty much said some harsh things about dimitrov, but I'm watching the replay of the match now and am withdrawing my previous comment. He is still 23 and will undoubtedly have more chances at majors.

He is not a subpar competitor compared to 99% of the guys on tour but he does tend to be a subpar competitor when he is playing the very best players. I don't think we can dispute that fact. Just look at his poor record vs top ten players. I like Dimitrov a lot. He seems like a nice guy, he has a lot of charisma and I like his tennis style but do I think he has the most upside from his group of peers, i.e. Nishikori, Raonic, etc? No, I don't. I wish I could say I thought he did but I have watched enough of him to realize that I don't think he will be a multiple slam winner. Maybe he will sneak in one slam when the Big Four are gone and he has a great draw. Currently I see him as a top ten type player which is a great career by normal standards.

Well said. The bitter trolls and people who don't know tennis rip Dimitrov. Those who know the game know how good he could be with a little work. Murray abused his BH. That can be improved. Dimitrov's serve needs work - better % of 1sts in and a more reliable 2nd. Deeper approaches.

This was a very entertaining match and could have gone either way.

I think maybe you are the one who is not watching closely and may not know tennis or at least you are looking from a rose-coloured glasses view when it comes to Dimitrov.

And no, that match was never going either way. Murray was the better player and at no point did I think he was going to lose that match even in tight moments.

 

[firepanda]

watching murray = watching chelsea

it sux

Except Chelsea win stuff.

 

[Legend of Borg]

The only embarrassing thing here is your ignorant and mypoic comments for a fellow countryman and quite possibly one of the greatest sportsman to ever emerge from the small nation (in terms of sports achievements)

He played some great tennis and didn't crumble like so many keyboard experts predicted on here - gave Murray a hell of a game - the 2nd set comeback was world-class tennis. Pity his serve never showed up or it could have been all so different. Not to mention 2 bad calls at crucial times. He'll go on to have a glittering career and live a massive mark on tennis while bitter and jealous tennis tactical behemoths like yourself will type away vitriol and hate on their keyboards.

nice shaming attempt

he's underperforming for his hype and expectations

baby fed?

that's just rage-inducing to his fans considering fed's achievements at his age

we're proud of having an athlete like him, but we also don't like people who are all flash no substance....