2015 Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters - ATP 1000

[Pagoo]

"Little" digs at Federer? She full out HATES him.

She is just mad that both of the players she abnormally obsesses over to the extreme, Nadal and Djokovic, can't be in the final and that Federer may make the final and even worse, could win a Masters 1000 he has never won before, maybe even beating her hero Djokovic to do it? It is doubtful that it will happen but you never know, stranger things have happened.

Don't know how that poster sleeps at night with all the Fed hate. Anyone with half a brain can see Federer has the toughest draw.

Djokovic's draw is the easiest by a mile.

 

[ArcspacE]

I didn't see the Federer match but Nadal looks razor sharp.
If someone showed me a 2010 match and today's match, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference, apart from the attire.
Nadal is simply refusing to miss.
Whereas 2014 he was an unforced error machine.
#Run-the-table

You do realise he played a kid ranked 108, right?

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I'm going to laugh at the Federer-Djokovic comparisons if he loses to Maurer.

 

[Strange Bird]

You do realise he played a kid ranked 108, right?

lol probaby not

 

[veroniquem]

I wouldn't call it the upset of the century.

I would given that Nadal is 13-2 vs Fed on clay, neither of those 2 happened in M-C and the last time Fed beat Nadal on clay was 6 years ago (Madrid 2009). The last time Fed played Nadal on clay was in Rome and he got pulverized. And that was fast clay. Things could only be more complicated for Fed on a surface like M-C.

 

[speedysteve]

Great match Monfils v Dolgopolov. Hard fought all the way and decided by two tie breaks Monfils narrowly won - good stuff.

I've found the big 3 matches as you'd expect, a bit routine so far

Didn't see Dimitrov beating Wawrinka so easily... Below par Waw!

Hope Isner can serve bombs, to make it interesting...

 

[Strange Bird]

hopefully 1 or 2 upsets tomorrow

wawrinka out
more upsets in the making ?

 

[veroniquem]

or wawrinka djokovic final they won both with the Same scores too (6-1 6-4) so who knows

Wow I had not noticed that!! Funny.
Nah I'm sticking to Fedal. They lost fewer games



ETA: I see that Wawa has already lost. Not surprised. Dimi has looked intimidating this event and Wawa nowhere near last year's level (in general, not just in M-C).
After watching the early rounds, I guess Dimi would be my dark horse for the title.

 

[Strange Bird]

Wow I had not noticed that!! Funny.
Nah I'm sticking to Fedal. They lost fewer games

wawrinka is out Fedal final is possible

 

[Big_Dangerous]

wawrinka is out Fedal final is possible

It was still possible even with Wawa in the draw. I think Fed will reach the final, but the Nadal vs Djokovic match is going to be a dandy if it takes place.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Federer has a very good chance now to keep the streak alive

 

[The Green Mile]

I would given that Nadal is 13-2 vs Fed on clay, neither of those 2 happened in M-C and the last time Fed beat Nadal on clay was 6 years ago (Madrid 2009). The last time Fed played Nadal on clay was in Rome and he got pulverized. And that was fast clay. Things could only be more complicated for Fed on a surface like M-C.

I'm aware of their HTH. A lot of those Clay meetings were very competitive. Obviously an upset, but still no where near upset of the freaking century! :lol:

 

[veroniquem]

It was still possible even with Wawa in the draw. I think Fed will reach the final, but the Nadal vs Djokovic match is going to be a dandy if it takes place.

Exactly. Which is why Fed is lucky. The survivor of Djokodal if it happens won't exactly be fresh the next day.
That being said: come on Monfils

 

[veroniquem]

I'm aware of their HTH. ]A lot of those Clay []meetings were very competitive. Obviously an upset, but still no where near upset of the freaking century! :lol:

The last one was not is sort of my point.

 

[The Green Mile]

The last one was not is sort of my point.

I don't understand.

 

[Noleberic123]

has fed started yet?

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Exactly. Which is why Fed is lucky. The survivor of Djokodal if it happens won't exactly be fresh the next day.
That being said: come on Monfils

Nadal V Djokovic will be a war. They will kill each other I think. Both want the edge heading into RG, and it all starts here. Federer could be the one who profits from that war.

 

[veroniquem]

I don't understand.

Their last meeting on clay was a demolition and the surface was faster. It doesn't bode well for Fed at M-C vs Nadal.

 

[veroniquem]

Nadal V Djokovic will be a war. They will kill each other I think. Both want the edge heading into RG, and it all starts here. Federer could be the one who profits from that war.

Yes I agree but Fed has some decent opposition to overcome first (Monfils, Dimitrov). If he makes it to final though, he will benefit from the Djokodal clash big time. Which is why I said he's lucky. No other way he would even have a shot at the M-C title.

 

[ArcspacE]

Come on, Tommy !

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Their last meeting on clay was a demolition and the surface was faster. It doesn't bode well for Fed at M-C vs Nadal.

Federer was injured...his back was still not 100% after he messed it up in IW, he carried that injury throughout most of 2013. Plus, he was playing all night matches, then had to play during the day. Not exactly help Federer stay competitive.

 

[veroniquem]

Federer was injured...his back was still not 100% after he messed it up in IW, he carried that injury throughout most of 2013. Plus, he was playing all night matches, then had to play during the day. Not exactly help Federer stay competitive.

Excuses. excuses It's not like Fed's record vs Nadal on clay is promising overall.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Yes I agree but Fed has some decent opposition to overcome first (Monfils, Dimitrov). If he makes it to final though, he will benefit from the Djokodal clash big time. Which is why I said he's lucky. No other way he would even have a shot at the M-C title.

Federer benefited in 2009 from the Djokodal war also. Those two killed each other leading into RG, and both went out early. Federer still had his own battles to take care of, Hass, Del Potro come to mind...but it did help that Djokodal has practically taken each other out.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Nadal V Djokovic will be a war. They will kill each other I think. Both want the edge heading into RG, and it all starts here. Federer could be the one who profits from that war.

I remember a lot of people said the same thing about Rafa before. Especially in that 5 hour match with Verdasco at the Australian Open. Fed still couldn't get past Rafa, even with the extra day off. Granted it was 6 years ago, but still.

 

[Pagoo]

Wow! Who is this lucky guy called Federer? He's always lucky.

Let's see. He is lucky when he draws Nadal, lucky when he doesn't. Lucky when Nadal plays a tournament and lucky when Nadal doesn't play.

I really wish I had such luck. I wouldn't be on here right now.

Lucky dude!

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Excuses. excuses It's not like Fed's record vs Nadal on clay is promising overall.

Cute.

But it is what it is, and you know that also. Federer was injured in 2013, his back was messed up in IW. It made me hurt watching him sometimes serve.

Not saying Federer would have won the match, but it wouldn't be the demolition that it became. Federer is a lot healthier here.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I remember a lot of people said the same thing about Rafa before. Especially in that 5 hour match with Verdasco at the Australian Open. Fed still couldn't get past Rafa, even with the extra day off. Granted it was 6 years ago, but still.

Well, look more to Madrid 2009 than AO. That is more closer to what MC will be like.

 

[veroniquem]

Federer benefited in 2009 from the Djokodal war also. Those two killed each other leading into RG, and both went out early. Federer still had his own battles to take care of, Hass, Del Potro come to mind...but it did help that Djokodal has practically taken each other out.

Very true but Fed was also much younger in 2009. He's more liable to a bad day now.

 

[veroniquem]

Cute.

But it is what it is, and you know that also. Federer was injured in 2013, his back was messed up in IW. It made me hurt watching him sometimes serve.

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Right. If he'd been that injured, he wouldn't have made the final in the 1st place :-?

 

[veroniquem]

I remember a lot of people said the same thing about Rafa before. Especially in that 5 hour match with Verdasco at the Australian Open. Fed still couldn't get past Rafa, even with the extra day off. Granted it was 6 years ago, but still.

There is a HUGE difference though. 1 day off between Verdasco match and Fed match at AO. In M-C, play every day. Hitman is right: whoever wins the potential Djokodal clash would be spent the next day (provided both play at their best and put in the effort)

 

[Strange Bird]

veronique Why the federer hate ?

 

[veroniquem]

veronique Why the federer hate ?

Not at all. Projecting him in the final is a sign of immense respect already. (And probably a tad optimistic as well)

 

[cc0509]

There is a HUGE difference though. 1 day off between Verdasco match and Fed match at AO. In M-C, play every day. Hitman is right: whoever wins the potential Djokodal clash would be spent the next day (provided both play at their best and put in the effort)

You are starting your excuses already I see.

The fact of the matter is that Djokovic has never defeated Federer at MC in how many tries? Three I think?

Let's hope it is a Federer-Djokovic final. :twisted:

 

[veroniquem]

You are starting your excuses already I see.

The fact of the matter is that Djokovic has never defeated Federer at MC in how many tries? Three I think?

Let's hope it is a Federer-Djokovic final. :twisted:

That's not an excuse, that's a fact. And yes, Fed would have a much better chance vs Djoko than vs Nadal (pray for rain on Saturday )

 

[cc0509]

Not at all. Projecting him in the final is a sign of immense respect already. (And probably a tad optimistic as well)

I think you are a bit mixed up. How many finals has Nadal made since the 2014 FO? How many has Federer made? Just wondering. Federer is not the guy who has been losing to players ranked 120 and he has not had to go to South America to play Challengers to try and get his mojo back.

 

[Feather]

You are starting your excuses already I see.

The fact of the matter is that Djokovic has never defeated Federer at MC in how many tries? Three I think?

Let's hope it is a Federer-Djokovic final. :twisted:

What is funny is he used the same word with a very decent poster like Hitman who never uses excuses for any Roger lose.

In any case, arguing with her is a waste of time.

I am not sure Roger will reach the final but am just hoping..

 

[cc0509]

That's not an excuse, that's a fact. And yes, Fed would have a much better chance vs Djoko than vs Nadal (pray for rain on Saturday )

Bring it on! :twisted:

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Right. If he'd been that injured, he wouldn't have made the final in the 1st place :-?

He made it, because his competition wasn't that great.

Vero, you're OK in my books, but sometimes your Federer hate does make you lose objectivity.

 

[veroniquem]

I think you are a bit mixed up. How many finals has Nadal made since the 2014 FO? How many has Federer made? Just wondering. Federer is not the guy who has been losing to players ranked 120 and he has not had to go to South America to play Challengers to try and get his mojo back.

Fed hasn't won a clay event since 2009. This is clay cc. What Nadal did or didn't do on other surfaces is rather irrelevant.

 

[Terenigma]

Raonic gets the break and will serve for the match! Vamos Milos!

 

[veroniquem]

He made it, because his competition wasn't that great.

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Yeah Fed gets a lot of cakewalk draws, shame.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Fed with the early break and Raonic breaks Robredo to serve for the match

 

[cc0509]

What is funny is he used the same word with a very decent poster like Hitman who never uses excuses for any Roger lose.

In any case, arguing with her is a waste of time.

I am not sure Roger will reach the final but am just hoping..

Yes, there is a long way to go for all of them still. I don't think Dimitrov will beat Federer though. Has Dimitrov ever taken a set off Federer anywhere? Dimitrov was playing a Wawrinka who was not mentally there today and it made Dimitrov look much better. The commentators I was listening to kept saying that Wawrinka is dealing with personal issues off court. They didn't elaborate further.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Yeah Fed gets a lot of cakewalk draws, shame.

I don't contest that. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have all had cakewalk draws. It is what it is... but not act like it is only Federer who has cream puff draws.

 

[Terenigma]

Raonic beats Robredo 6-3 3-6 6-3. No more upsetting the younger generation for Tommy

 

[Strange Bird]

Fed hasn't won a clay event since 2009. This is clay cc. What Nadal did or didn't do on other surfaces is rather irrelevant.

he won Madrid 3 years ago

 

[Feather]

Yeah Fed gets a lot of cakewalk draws, shame.

Nadal has also got lots of cakewalk draws. Everyone gets, and over a career it evens out.

 

[The Green Mile]

Fed hasn't won a clay event since 2009. This is clay cc. What Nadal did or didn't do on other surfaces is rather irrelevant.

Madrid 2012, albeit Blue Clay, but still Clay...

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Raonic beats Robredo 6-3 3-6 6-3. No more upsetting the younger generation for Tommy

I have been very impressed with Raonic this year.

 

[cc0509]

Fed hasn't won a clay event since 2009. This is clay cc. What Nadal did or didn't do on other surfaces is rather irrelevant.

Yes, but Nadal hasn't looked too sharp on clay in the past year either. He didn't exactly set the clay warm-up events on fire last year did he? But as I have been saying for months now, I know it is only a matter of time before he comes out of his slump. I can set my clock to his rises after his steep falls.

I hope he does come out of his slump because Djokovic's competition is laughable right now.