jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Just ask Andy Murray, who just beat him 2 and 0 on clay :lol:
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2015 Mutua Madrid Open - ATP 1000
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Just ask Andy Murray, who just beat him 2 and 0 on clay :lol:
mightyrick
Legend
:lol:
After he took out Monfils, the 12th seed... another dangerous player in good form. Who also happened to take out Federer in MC.
I noticed you were fairly silent after Granollers defeated Monfils. :lol:
Lol yeah, I think we can all agree on that. That stuff tastes like gasoline when you drink it non-mixed.
I'm with you, I like most whiskeys as well, although the JW Gold I just bought is a little disappointing. I had a glass of JW Black once and loved it, that's why I had some high expectations of JW Gold, which is even more expensive, but alas..
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Who cares if he beat Monfils? Didn't he get dusted 1 and 4 by Berdych in MC?
- Marcel's best surface: check
- Andy's worst surface: check
- Andy exhausted from playing Munich, and then a three setter into 3am: check and check
- Match played in Spain: check
- Huge beatdown: check
Rock Strongo
Legend
All we hear is Radio Ga Ga...
mightyrick
Legend
:lol: Very very bitter indeed that he took out Monfils. Check
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
At this point I can drink anything straight. Even Canadian Club. But the first time I tried JW Red I mixed it with coke... lol.
Rock Strongo
Legend
I used to like whisky... Now I only mix it with Coke...
bigservesofthands
Semi-Pro
Looks like retro is in. Raonic's mustache and Kgyrios' shade
bigservesofthands
Semi-Pro
147 mph! Nice!
ruerooo
Legend
Rock Strongo
Legend
Those two netcords...
ruerooo
Legend
The compression was first to help heal an injury; then it became an endorsement.
For, like, a couple of seasons now.
(Where you been ...?
)
Sir Percival Blakeney
Professional
It looks like a prepubescent mistake.
HipRotation
Hall of Fame
Rock Strongo
Legend
It is said to give him super powers
#BelieveTheSleeve #PTS
Especially when he looks like a spider-man.
On an unrelated note, I want a drink right now...
Warmaster
Hall of Fame
But, I was just typing that. Can you do that?
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
On a related note, Spiderman has just set up a meeting with la Muzz.
I wasn't overly impressed with Spiderman from the few games I caught.
Warmaster
Hall of Fame
Muzza will take him to the cleaners!
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Milosh has troubled Murray in the past.
S
Strange Bird
Guest
always hard if your 2 favourite players are playing against each other
you must be torn
mule250
Professional
Yeah, Raonic wasn't looking all that great tonight. I believe both of his breaks were DFs from Mayer. Seemed like more UE than usual. At least now he gets to play his pigeon next round !:twisted:
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I don't expect no cleaners, but I do expect Muzza to prevail given their forms.
cheers, good to see my impression confirmed, when I didn't watch it all. Still, you never know if his serve catches fire.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Azarenka is such a flirt.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Iv actually not watched Raonic since he withdrew against Berdych. His foot has been niggling him for a while now altho he's had time to let it heal. Did he show any signs of that in the match? Just makes me wonder if he's maybe not 100%
I just hope that if he plays rome (where he's defending alot of points) he doesnt screw himself over for RG when it comes to his foot injury
Warmaster
Hall of Fame
I know it's pretty much beating a dead horse at this point, but the scheduling here is just so bad.
Ferrer-Nishikori unlikely to start before 10pm. Given the history of their matchups, another post midnight ending is likely.
Whoever comes through at the bottom half of the draw is at a massive disadvantage when they'll suddenly have to play a final in the early(?) afternoon.
Ferrer-Nishikori unlikely to start before 10pm. Given the history of their matchups, another post midnight ending is likely.
Whoever comes through at the bottom half of the draw is at a massive disadvantage when they'll suddenly have to play a final in the early(?) afternoon.
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Same thing every year. Why do they get away with it? And somehow the same players keep getting the night matches.
One simple thing they could do is start the next match right away instead of the "not before..." nonsense.
Being on the court at 2am in a master with high level of competition AND play 5 days in a row or so is unacceptable but what to do if the players themselves are not vocal about it? They should make themselves heard about that issue. It's worth fighting about.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Sounds great on paper but in practise it would never work because of people paying for tickets to watch specific matches. Unless you could send out a bat-signal to alert customers that the match is about to start. Its just destined to be poorly scheduled in a way that makes money and possibly helps certain players.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
That is called: greed. Too much of that on the tour unfortunately. Tickets should be sold for the day like they used to and like they still are at RG for instance.
Rafaisdabest
Hall of Fame
Saw that awesome lob shot of Nadal's earlier tonight from yesterday's match unbelievably greatness there!
rainingaces
Legend
Any info on which member of the popsocks got injured?
vernonbc
Legend
ruerooo
Legend
The other reason I think they do that is in case the player's match runs over the night before. I think they're mandated a certain amount of rest between matches either by their contracts, or by the ATP's rules.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
That's something they could do "if needed", no? Not all the time.
When all of the matches over-run, that becomes moot. In theory, it helps to prevent players having to get there too early and hang around for ages, just in case the previous matches are short, or someone retires.
I mean, tonight's evening session is supposed to start after 8pm local time, which is around about when they'll get on court anyway. The problem is if too many previous matches run over, so the matches due to start at 8 are starting at 11pm, and no-one thinks to change courts.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
They should use more courts then. Look, if it rarely happened, I would agree but the problem is that it happens all the time. Then finals suck because one of the 2 just has nothing left in the tank. Nobody will convince me that there is not a way to fix this. And I don't see them trying.
Agreed.
I'm not saying that they always get the 'not before' bits right. Sometimes they leave too long gaps. They should make sure they don't leave long gaps during the day, when there is still a queue of matches coming in the evening.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
mightyrick
Legend
It's not a fixable problem. You either put time limits on the matches or you increase the number of courts. Either one are simply not going to happen. Regardless, these are only best-of-three matches. It isn't hurting these players that much if they don't get as much recovery time. They aren't on the court that long. Jeez, we're only talking about a couple of hours playing time. They are used to practicing for four hours or more at a time.
In the old days, Masters were best-of-five. In fact, *all* tourneys were best-of-five.
Tournaments have to be scheduled according to the median expectations and you hope it all evens out. There isn't much else you can do.
In USTA and ITF at recreational levels, if the tournament gets too far behind... the director will force all third sets to be tiebreaks and force all remaining games to be no-ad. There's no way in hell that is happening on the professional level. That is completely dumb.
ruerooo
Legend
Okay, look.
(I'm a little short on patience already today dealing with people who complain about things who don't then try to take action around the thing that's bothering them, so ... you may want to take that under advisement while actually considering the content of what I'm about to suggest.)
If it bothers you THIS MUCH, reach out to the organizers or the people at the ATP and WTA who are in charge of these rules.
(Amelie Mauresmo did it the other evening when Muzz was about to go on at 1am -- she Tweeted about what she'd said -- and she didn't have any luck. But maybe you can do better.)
You and I have been members of this board a fairly comparable amount of time, so I'd imagine you're at least a fairly influential local fan. So you'd know whom to go to if you're really serious about doing something about this.
But don't just sit around and fuss about it to people who can't do anything about it either if YOU'RE not willing to do anything about it.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I think the players should do something about it but if they don't, so be it then. It's mostly a problem for THEM the way I see it.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
For some matches they are. The other problem is that it's the same players who keep getting the late matches. Not as much recovery time once, ok, but repeatedly?
I'm sure everyone has noticed that the home champ has played at 3pm all week (including tomorrow). Now I want Nadal to win too but what the organizers are doing is wrong on principle, sorry.
Murray has had a Madrid free pass. Kohly had to play a day before him, was more tired than Murray, Granollers rolled over like a dog in no time flat, and now, Raonic is injured. Dimes to dollars, he gets the more tired of Ferrer/Nishikori. And gets more rest than them. All the stars have aligned for Murray.
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