2015 ROLAND GARROS DISCUSSION - Men's Singles

[King Fed WW]

Stories of Nadal's demise are greatly exaggerated

There has been some sort of recent trend, led by MichaelNadal, to suggest that Nadal is completely done, has declined hugely and has no chance at RG.

Yes there has been a decline. But that doesn't mean the end,certainly not of winning the French. Federer declined years ago and still nearly won Wimbledon aged 33 and 11 months.

Yes he isn't as good and that is why he loses to Wawrinka in a night session in Rome, he would have won that match any year up to 2013. He now needs things, like conditions to be in his favour, previously he didn't. But still, he wins that match if it takes place during the warm day.

But the conditions at RG are perfect for him and if it is sunny Nole will have to play his best to beat him.

Do you really expect anyone else to get 3 sets? They can, but how likely is it really? He is the DESERVED 2ND FAVOURITE, but sill low odds. It would be a pretty weird sport if the 2nd favourite couldn't win...

 

[estigma2001]

Rublev to defeat a BIG name (Nadal, Ferrer, Federer, Murray or Djokovic)

 

[batz]

Yeah, you are right, there are no data after 05-13-2015, so they probably just restored the old version with the DB backup.

I would like to salute your excellent grammar - it's a rare treat to see.


Nole has to be favourite, then Rafa, then the rest.


Great to see the old board back *salutes mods*

 

[chrischris]

Rublev to defeat a BIG name (Nadal, Ferrer, Federer, Murray or Djokovic)

In a year or 2 maybe. He has the game but not over 5 sets .. yet.

 

[heftylefty]

This is going to be one of the more exciting Roland Garros in a long time. The field is wide open.

This is not a dig at Nadal, because regardless to happens he's on of the greatest player of all time. It's no longer debatable. But for the first time in a long time is not the automate favorite; and that's a good thing. But that does not mean Nada can't win it.

 

[Cortana]

When is the draw coming out?

 

[Mainad]

When is the draw coming out?

Friday morning about 11.00 am local time (at least that's what I heard).

 

[Chanwan]

I would like to salute your excellent grammar - it's a rare treat to see.


Nole has to be favourite, then Rafa, then the rest.


Great to see the old board back *salutes mods*

wasn't aware of that, thanks - apparently, it's a contentious issue: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/jul/16/data-plural-singular

agree with the rest

 

[batz]

wasn't aware of that, thanks - apparently, it's a contentious issue: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/jul/16/data-plural-singular

agree with the rest

Meh - it's only contentious among those who can't handle THE TRUTH

 

[MichaelNadal]

There has been some sort of recent trend, led by MichaelNadal, to suggest that Nadal is completely done, has declined hugely and has no chance at RG.

Yes there has been a decline. But that doesn't mean the end,certainly not of winning the French. Federer declined years ago and still nearly won Wimbledon aged 33 and 11 months.

Yes he isn't as good and that is why he loses to Wawrinka in a night session in Rome, he would have won that match any year up to 2013. He now needs things, like conditions to be in his favour, previously he didn't. But still, he wins that match if it takes place during the warm day.

But the conditions at RG are perfect for him and if it is sunny Nole will have to play his best to beat him.

Do you really expect anyone else to get 3 sets? They can, but how likely is it really? He is the DESERVED 2ND FAVOURITE, but sill low odds. It would be a pretty weird sport if the 2nd favourite couldn't win...

I forgot about the weather factor I hope it's hot as balls.

 

[Chanwan]

I forgot about the weather factor I hope it's hot as balls.

not by the looks of it as of now:
http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Paris-weather/Ile-de-France/FR.aspx
that's 60-70 with one day at 77. Weather can still change though

Meh - it's only contentious among those who can't handle THE TRUTH

true that - btw, feel free to correct my grammar, when I make mistakes

 

[Dan Z]

yeah because that's what this forums all about...

Back on topic - really hope for some sort of crazy upset where both Nadal and Novak go out early ish and we're left with a "could be anyone" type scenario.
This year has Djokovic written all over it and whilst he's in phenomenal form it would be really nice to see someone else lifting a trophy for a change...

coric/kyrgios/thiem - step it up!

 

[Strange Bird]

Nadal will find his form and win the la decima


He is not finnish yet

 

[Strange Bird]

Friday morning about 11.00 am local time (at least that's what I heard).

11:30 am......

 

[marc45]

there hasn't been a consistently hot French in a while, just some hot days here and there

 

[JanowiczJ]

Rublev to defeat a BIG name (Nadal, Ferrer, Federer, Murray or Djokovic)

You don't know him? He doesn't have the stamina to out-last those guys. Maybe Federer but then he'd have to straight out spank Federer in 3. Not likely.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Nadal will find his form and win the la decima


He is not finnish yet

I didn't create my sig just for the sake of it.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

yeah because that's what this forums all about...

Back on topic - really hope for some sort of crazy upset where both Nadal and Novak go out early ish and we're left with a "could be anyone" type scenario.
This year has Djokovic written all over it and whilst he's in phenomenal form it would be really nice to see someone else lifting a trophy for a change...

I can imagine that, I get the feeling it could happen. All this pressure on Djoko to complete the career slam cause now would be the best chance. Who knows what could happen??

I can predict an upset but I don't expect it.

 

[Pagoo]

If Nadal gets to the semis, then I think all bets are off. Even the so called pundits will start backing him.

I remember after he won last year, BG and a few others were saying," I'm surprised we doubted him". They all bought into the Djokovic hype same as this year.

 

[Serve&Bash]

If Nadal gets to the semis, then I think all bets are off. Even the so called pundits will start backing him.

I remember after he won last year, BG and a few others were saying," I'm surprised we doubted him". They all bought into the Djokovic hype same as this year.

True, but this year Nadal was absolutely horrific during the claycourt season. Last year Nadal was going into the french open after having a pretty well contested final with Djokovic in Rome unlike this year where he got crushed by Wawrinka. Also, I don't think I have seen Nadal play a worse match on clay than the Madrid final this year.

But still, I totally agree with you. All bets are off if Nadal roars into the SF.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

I can imagine that, I get the feeling it could happen. All this pressure on Djoko to complete the career slam cause now would be the best chance. Who knows what could happen??

I can predict an upset but I don't expect it.

Do you get the feeling that if Djokovic doesn't win it this year, he might never win it? I mean how many chances do you have to win it, especially when the stars have seemingly aligned in your favor. Rafa suddenly very beatable on clay, and his ranking has seen him fall out of the top 5, meanwhile Djokovic is sitting pretty at 1. Unless he somehow gets Murray in his half, and Nadal in his quarter, I can't see a better opportunity for him. Though he is 0-6 against Rafa at the French Open.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

If Nadal gets to the semis, then I think all bets are off. Even the so called pundits will start backing him.

I remember after he won last year, BG and a few others were saying," I'm surprised we doubted him". They all bought into the Djokovic hype same as this year.

Same thing with 2011 as well. Everybody backed Novak going into that French Open, especially since he beat Rafa in Madrid and Rome.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Do you get the feeling that if Djokovic doesn't win it this year, he might never win it? I mean how many chances do you have to win it, especially when the stars have seemingly aligned in your favor. Rafa suddenly very beatable on clay, and his ranking has seen him fall out of the top 5, meanwhile Djokovic is sitting pretty at 1. Unless he somehow gets Murray in his half, and Nadal in his quarter, I can't see a better opportunity for him. Though he is 0-6 against Rafa at the French Open.

I definitely get that feeling. Nadal is only 1 year older then Djoko so one would assume they would retire relatively close together. I don't buy into the hype that Nadal is done forever, I think he's done for this clay season though. So this would be the best chance for someone to win the french. Fed got lucky in 2009, this is Djoko's best chance.
There is a chance I guess in a few years for Djoko when Nadal loses his A game (like Fed has in recent months) but who knows what future stars could dominate clay by then?

It really could be now or never for Djoko and that might put pressure on him.

 

[Cortana]

We talked about now or never back then in 2012.

I think he will have a lot of chances and there a lots of finals incoming.

 

[sbengte]

If Nadal gets to the semis, then I think all bets are off. Even the so called pundits will start backing him.

True. I am sure he will get there avoiding all of Murray/Djoker/Stan/Nishi. Once he gets there, he can take anyone down.

 

[sbengte]

Do you get the feeling that if Djokovic doesn't win it this year, he might never win it?

Nah, he may not win this year, but I am certain he will eventually win it.

 

[KingKyrgios]

Nadal will prove his doubers wrong.

 

[G A S]

We talked about now or never back then in 2012.

I think he will have a lot of chances and there a lots of finals incoming.

it all depends on nadal, if he were to decline then novak would sooner or later lift the trophy.. Nadal keeps djokovic from winning as he kept federer from winning the french open.

 

[Supertegwyn]

Nadal in 4.

 

[veroniquem]

Same thing with 2011 as well. Everybody backed Novak going into that French Open, especially since he beat Rafa in Madrid and Rome.

The difference between 2011 and 2015 is not so much with Djoko, it is with Nadal who in 2011 made all clay finals, winning 2 of them. No comparison with what happened in 2015.

 

[veroniquem]

OK, so, toughest possible draw for Novak (revised):

1- Almagro
2- Monaco
3- Fognini
R16- Monfils
QF- Nishikori
SF- Murray
F- Nadal

Toughest possible draw for Fed:

any :grin:

 

[Djokovic2011]

^^^ Out of interest vero, what would be your dream QF draw for this year's tournament? :smile:

 

[G A S]

Nadal will prove his doubers wrong.

I'll keep positive on nadal's chances at this roland garros.

 

[Pagoo]

Any one following the qualies? Matches have been suspended due to rain. Same thing happened yesterday. I don't think they've completed all the men's round 1 matches.

Hope rain doesn't disrupt the main draw matches.

 

[Wynter]

Has the draw been released already?

 

[King Fed WW]

Has the draw been released already?

Friday. 11am local time, probably closer to half.


Always Friday for the slams.

 

[D.Nalby12]

This tournament means a lot.

 

[manley0702]

I know right!
Those odds are from bovada, so they might be slightly different if you go elsewhere.

They're much worse elsewhere. I can't believe anyone would bet Nadal at 9/4. Most websites have him somewhere between 11/4 and 10/3.

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/mens/winner

 

[veroniquem]

^^^ Out of interest vero, what would be your dream QF draw for this year's tournament? :smile:

Ferrer any time. Ferrer in a slam = the ultimate gift

(Last year Nadal won the lottery. Who's next? )

 

[MichaelNadal]

This tournament means a lot.

I wonder who made it that way?

 

[Djokovic2011]

Ferrer any time. Ferrer in a slam = the ultimate gift

(Last year Nadal won the lottery. Who's next? )

Ok, but I actually meant for all top 8 players. :wink:

 

[JRAJ1988]

Here's a pic of Federer and Cuevas after their practice, can you tell I'm a Cuevas fan?

 

[G A S]

Friday. 11am local time, probably closer to half.


Always Friday for the slams.

will come fast friday, then it will seem slower as you wonder about the final.

 

[Mainad]

Here's a pic of Federer and Cuevas after their practice, can you tell I'm a Cuevas fan?

Is Roger caressing the back of Pablo's hair? Reminds me a bit of Rafa and Pico!

 

[veroniquem]

Ok, but I actually meant for all top 8 players. :wink:

Ferrer/Raonic for Nadal/Djoko would be great. Then Berd and Fed can share Murray/Nishi between them!

 

[Djokovic2011]

Is Raonic definitely playing?

 

[Mainad]

Is Raonic definitely playing?

Not heard anything. The draw isn't out yet and unless someone has spotted him practicing at Roland Garros I guess we won't know for sure until the draw comes out on Friday unless he makes a statement beforehand.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Here's a pic of Federer and Cuevas after their practice, can you tell I'm a Cuevas fan?

I see Fed has the Persian Violet Vapors which haven't come out yet.

 

[Rob_C]

Rublev to defeat a BIG name (Nadal, Ferrer, Federer, Murray or Djokovic)

In a year or 2 maybe. He has the game but not over 5 sets .. yet.

Rublev isnt playing this years French. He had a WC into qualies but he had to pull out bc he also got a WC into Geneva this week where he won his first rd match.

He took Cilic to 3 sets yeaterday, even had a match pt in the tiebreaker. Went down 6-1 in the 3rd, however.

 

[Nostradamus]

OK, so, toughest possible draw for Novak (revised):

1- Almagro
2- Monaco
3- Fognini
R16- Monfils
QF- Nishikori
SF- Murray
F- Nadal

Toughest possible draw for Fed:

any :grin:

how do you know Nadal is going to make it to the final at all ??