Down_the_line
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Do you think she at least has the game to be a constant threat on clay?
2015 Wimbledon discussion - WTA.
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Do you think she at least has the game to be a constant threat on clay?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
The abdominal tear is another excuse in a long line of excuses lately. There is something going on behind the scenes. It may be one issue or several. We simply don't know and we are not going to get the truth except when he hear tidbits from people like Darren Cahill who is usually a pretty honest and down to earth guy. He said Saviano left Bouchard not the other way around. I doubt he would say that on air unless it were true.
Whatever her issues are, hopefully she can figure things out and get back on the right path. Pam Shriver talked about it recently and said that a sophomore slump year is normal and that she went through it herself many years ago but if it goes much beyond that, something else is going on and that is not normal.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Meh. I don't know. We will see I guess. She is obviously going through her own problems currently. How many coaches has she been through in the past year?
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Fair enough ccO but I do hope Simona surprises you soon.
Down_the_line
G.O.A.T.
Very fair post. I guess my concluding point would be that, whatever really is going on behind the scenes, we shouldn't just assume what's going on and lazily resort to false, contrived narratives. Then again, I'm on the internet. I should be used to this kind of behaviour by now lol.
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cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Fair enough ccO but I do hope Simona surprises you soon.
Surprises me how? By winning a slam? Come on mate! Let's be realistic and not go all Marius.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, a lot of people will do that unfortunately because she is attractive and was very successful quickly at a young age. Nerdy guys who have never been laid or average/unattractive women can be very catty and envious when it comes to an attractive/successful person. It comes with the territory.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
I don't see why she can't still win a slam ccO - Serena won't be winning all the majors in the next few years. Let's just wait and see what happens. Surprises me how? By winning a slam? Come on mate! Let's be realistic and not go all Marius.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't see why she can't still win a slam ccO - Serena won't be winning all the majors in the next few years. Let's just wait and see what happens. 
I do not see her as a slam winner. Not even close unless she completely lucks out and has a situation like Bartoli had at Wimbledon where her draw opened up. But even a player like Bartoli had more weapons than Halep. Ana Ivanovic who probably fluked that one slam at least has one of the deadliest forehands in the women's game. How can Halep who is basically weaponless win a slam? She is a good mover and has a decent bh but lots of players have that. Nope, no slam for Halep IMO. Do I have to pull a MN and say I will stop posting if she wins a slam?
pirateofthecarribean
Hall of Fame
Le Coach stopped Williams doubles. Good move to focus on singles.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
She's a growing work in progress, but needs to expand her use of the court.
Agreed. They need to focus on what could be a historic Wimbledon.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Voegele let keys back in the match. She will pay for that
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Man Kvitova was in ruthless form today. Granted she was playing Bertens, but still. 35 minutes! Talk about a beat down!
Down_the_line
G.O.A.T.
It's been said a lot but I'm really hoping for a Serena-Kvitova final! I'm rooting for Serena but I don't think I'd be too upset if Kvitova won, other than the fact that there goes the Serena Slam and chances at a Calender Year Grand Slam. So yeah, I guess I'd be a little ticked but Kvitova winning wouldn't be bad at all!
pirateofthecarribean
Hall of Fame
Keys Voegele match suspended at 2 all 3rd set.
johndagolfer
Professional
Darkness or rain?
ScottleeSV
Hall of Fame
Kvitova on grass is the hardest match in tennis for Williams right now, so if that was the final, yeah, interesting match-up. The bottom half (Kvitova's) certainly took a hit today with Halep and Bouchard going out, and Keys wobbling at 2-2 in the final set at the close of play.
pirateofthecarribean
Hall of Fame
How would I know?
pirateofthecarribean
Hall of Fame
Serena does not have trouble with eastern Europeans. Eastern Europeans play only for money, not for art. Best players are not eastern Europeans.
fundrazer
G.O.A.T.
I don't really consider the bottom half to have changed any. I can't imagine anyone expected Bouchard to be relevant this Wimby. Halep is a good player, but grass isn't her best surface and she'd likely would have had to get through Lisicki.
spystud
Talk Tennis Guru
Darkness, since apparently that was too difficult for the pirate to answer.
Keys appears to be very much in that "post-breakthrough letdown" phase that many tennis players have. She's a few more dopey games away from being 0-2 for the season on grass, the surface where she's won her lone title just last year.
Bouchard and Halep have had much higher peaks than Keys (Halep in particular), but they're also declining quite severely. A lot of "young hopefuls" need to regroup at this point in time...
Bouchard and Halep have had much higher peaks than Keys (Halep in particular), but they're also declining quite severely. A lot of "young hopefuls" need to regroup at this point in time...
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Just made it a ton easier on Petra to get back to the final.
Down_the_line
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Seeds out in 1st round:
Simona Halep[3]
Carla Suarez Navarro[9]
Eugenie Bouchard[12]
Flavia Pennetta[24]
Barbora Strycova[27]
Caroline Garcia[32]
Not bad from all seeded players considering the WTA is usually so wild. Obviously more are going to go out in the 2nd round but hopefully we see as much of a "best on best" tournament as possible here.
Simona Halep[3]
Carla Suarez Navarro[9]
Eugenie Bouchard[12]
Flavia Pennetta[24]
Barbora Strycova[27]
Caroline Garcia[32]
Not bad from all seeded players considering the WTA is usually so wild. Obviously more are going to go out in the 2nd round but hopefully we see as much of a "best on best" tournament as possible here.
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
ScentOfDefeat
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Wow, Krystina went through? I hadn't noticed. It's hard to follow the first rounds of Slams, so many matches going on at the same time.
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, Karolina was already in pretty shaky form when she played the first round. It seems like her good form from previous weeks has deserted her when it matters the most. Typical.
spystud
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, beat Smitkova 7-5 in both the 2nd & 3rd.
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
Vandeweghe looks like the much better plater. Karolina Pliskova is going to have to pull out some magic to win.
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
Vandeweghe/Stosur should be an interesting matchup next round.
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
Urzula was never likely to beat Sam anyway.
Down_the_line
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I was really hoping Pliskova could break through here. Looks like she's not quite ready for prime time. Too bad...
Down_the_line
G.O.A.T.
No worries, I think Kerber has a good shot at the semis, given the look of her draw right now and her current form.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Awesome chances for Stosur who doesn't have a good record at Wimbledon. Pliskova out and now might reach the 4R 
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
All the pigeons lining up nicely for Serena to shoot them down. At the end of the day, when we're talking about all these players not called Serena Williams, it's more about "who can make the quarters/semis/final?" and not about who can lift the title. They're all pondering like Berdych: a quarterfinal is a semifinal, a semifinal is a final, and losing a final is like winning the title.
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