2015 Wimbledon semi-final Federer vs 2008 Wimbledon final Nadal

[Megafanoftennis100]

A match between a God Mode version of Federer vs God Mode version of Nadal on Wimbledon centre court. Who wins?

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

God mode Nadal>>>> god mode Fed and djokovic. Nadal still has the highest peak of 3. Fed and djokovic have the longer prime. Not the highest level though

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

God mode Nadal>>>> god mode Fed and djokovic. Nadal still has the highest peak of 3. Fed and djokovic have the longer prime

On clay, yes. Outside of clay, no.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

On clay, yes. Outside of clay, no.

It’s arguable. If we takes nadals best form (pre injuries and slowing down) and outside clay level (08 Wimbledon, 09 AO, 2010 US open) I don’t think he loses to any level of Djoker or Fed at any of 3 outside clay slams. Of course they would be close. probably all go 5 . But I would still fancy Nadal

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

It’s arguable. If we takes nadals best form and outside clay level (08 Wimbledon, 09 AO, 2010 US open) I don’t think he loses to any level of Djoker or Fed

AO: 2007 Federer & 2011, 2016 Djokovic > 2009 Nadal
WB: 2003-2007, 2017 Federer & 2011, 2015 Djokovic > 2008 Nadal
USO: 2004-2008 Federer & 2011 Djokovic > 2010 Nadal

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Rafa in 4

 

[RS]

Nadal 2008 would go 10-0 in his era vs all but the best versions of Fedovic and 09/12 Fed who still had the fitness to keep it competitive even though he loses.

 

[Third Serve]

Murray didn't have the tools to threaten Fed's game in 2015. And yes, Fed's game was vulnerable in 2015. The serve was absolutely stellar but other areas of his game like groundstrokes and especially returning were average to weak. Murray was just so passive in 2015 that he was never winning that match though.

Peak Nadal, of course, is a bit of a better player than 2015 Murray and would have the right tools to take Fed down. The serve would be very tricky, but in a prolonged match I doubt Fed maintains that raw serving strength the whole way as it was a bit of a lightning-in-a-bottle performance. The shot very much returned to earth in the final against Djokovic.

 

[FEDERERNADAL13]

Are people actually arguing that 2015 Federer would beat 2005-2009 Fed?

Rafa has this.

 

[RS]

Murray didn't have the tools to threaten Fed's game in 2015. And yes, Fed's game was vulnerable in 2015. The serve was absolutely stellar but other areas of his game like groundstrokes and especially returning were average to weak. Murray was just so passive in 2015 that he was never winning that match though.

Peak Nadal, of course, is a bit of a better player than 2015 Murray and would have the right tools to take Fed down. The serve would be very tricky, but in a prolonged match I doubt Fed maintains that raw serving strength the whole way as it was a bit of a lightning-in-a-bottle performance. The shot very much returned to earth in the final against Djokovic.

Murray 2015 was like a slightly worse version of a peak Hewitt on grass.

 

[GRASScaraz]

Federer serve was way better 2015 and he didn't push his backhand. Fed in 4 sets winning a bunch of tiebreaks.

 

[Third Serve]

Murray 2015 was like a slight worse version of a peak Hewitt on grass.

No, that would be 2016. 2015 is a couple steps down.

 

[RS]

No, that would be 2016. 2015 is a couple steps down.

Maybe 7-3 Hewitt for 2015 if it's a couple down?