2015 WTA Indin Wells Final Halep vs Jancovic

Who wins

  • Halep in 2

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Halep in 3

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Jancovic in 3

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Jancovic in 2

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

Ironwood

Professional
When Chris Evert was in her prime the word was, she could not beat her younger brother John who was a top ranked collegiate player at the time.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
I still can't believe Simona Halep was able to come back and win this one. She's clearly a champion, winning under such circumstances, playing lower than her max.

Marion Bartoli read perfectly the ebb and flow of the game when at 3-1 for JJ, detected a vacillation in her that proved fatal

Amazing running by both indeed.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Nothing, neither did the pic of Fed Angie posted....

Then, why did you add to it by responding?

The match: Good for Halep, but she still has some issues in her mind (long before her personal tragedy). She still lacks that confident instinct that some have even before their 1st major. Will she turn into that kind of player?
 
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Gazelle

G.O.A.T.
Thought that match would never end, pathetic tennis. Har to believe they get equal prize money. Any of the top 200 men could beat any of them.

Ladies tennis is so bad, I have started watching golf!
Make that top 2000, at the least.
 

ALEXT

Semi-Pro
I still can't believe Simona Halep was able to come back and win this one. She's clearly a champion, winning under such circumstances, playing lower than her max.
I felt the same and this is perhaps the most important take away from this otherwise forgettable match. She may indeed stay true to what she said after the match she lost to Makarova in the AO QF - going forward she will fight to the end not matter what. I did not believe she will do this today but she did it after all.

I'm afraid she will pull out of Miami or have an early exit as she seemed to have some injury/physical issues. She was struggling when she usually doesn't. She did not feel here game at all today.

JJ played terrible too just like she did in the SF against Lisicki and she only got that far into the match because Halep played way below her level. This was Halep's luck today. If she would've played like this against a good player she would've been bageled for sure.

Winning 3 out of 4 tournaments this year, including a Premier 5 and a Mandatory is not too shabby. She is not the best player on the tour, but she deserves the place she is in at the moment. No other player below her can challenge that spot at the moment.
 

spinovic

Hall of Fame
Impressive win for Halep. Showed a lot of grit to hang in and keep fighting when she was struggling to find her game.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
#Simona's defensive #ArantxaSV style of tennis is what's hampering her progress. Not to mention her #79 mph first serve. The women shouldn't copy the men in this regard. Tennis was once more offensive than it is now.

#PTL #JC4Ever

#AngieB
SERENA WILLIAMS: Uhm, well, I just thought that she serves well to be her height. Usually players that height don't serve as well. She has so much power on her serve. That's actually really awesome.
 

Elektra

Professional
I felt the same and this is perhaps the most important take away from this otherwise forgettable match. She may indeed stay true to what she said after the match she lost to Makarova in the AO QF - going forward she will fight to the end not matter what. I did not believe she will do this today but she did it after all.

I'm afraid she will pull out of Miami or have an early exit as she seemed to have some injury/physical issues. She was struggling when she usually doesn't. She did not feel here game at all today.

JJ played terrible too just like she did in the SF against Lisicki and she only got that far into the match because Halep played way below her level. This was Halep's luck today. If she would've played like this against a good player she would've been bageled for sure.

Winning 3 out of 4 tournaments this year, including a Premier 5 and a Mandatory is not too shabby. She is not the best player on the tour, but she deserves the place she is in at the moment. No other player below her can challenge that spot at the moment.
Even Jelena can't believe she is even in the final.
 

plum

Rookie
I'm sure this has been addressed but should we have really been shown the Coaching and Pathetic Whining from Jankovic. Actually that's why I watched: To see her get beat after telegraphing that she already felt like a loser... I felt like I wasn't watching professional sports but watching a Junior lesser event with a father trying to calm down his daughter...
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
I'm sure this has been addressed but should we have really been shown the Coaching and Pathetic Whining from Jankovic. Actually that's why I watched: To see her get beat after telegraphing that she already felt like a loser... I felt like I wasn't watching professional sports but watching a Junior lesser event with a father trying to calm down his daughter...
I think it's adorable. There should be a compilation of these meltdowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxmHbIJQgZM
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
I'm sure this has been addressed but should we have really been shown the Coaching and Pathetic Whining from Jankovic. Actually that's why I watched: To see her get beat after telegraphing that she already felt like a loser... I felt like I wasn't watching professional sports but watching a Junior lesser event with a father trying to calm down his daughter...
Jankovic was never ready for the big stage--not just due to her lack of top level talent, but a mentality that was not within a country mile of that possessed by the greater players of her generation.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Jankovic was never ready for the big stage--not just due to her lack of top level talent, but a mentality that was not within a country mile of that possessed by the greater players of her generation.
She is a nice counterpuncher with some talent for sure and her personality is very bubbly but man oh man, can she stink up the joint with her mental fragility during some big matches. :confused:
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Jankovic was never ready for the big stage--not just due to her lack of top level talent, but a mentality that was not within a country mile of that possessed by the greater players of her generation.
Yes, I mean, she has a losing record against that mental giant Ivanovic. I think that tells you everything.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
She is a nice counterpuncher with some talent for sure and her personality is very bubbly but man oh man, can she stink up the joint with her mental fragility during some big matches. :confused:
I would not blame her complete washout at the majors on mental fragility alone. Heck, Novotna became the poster child for that and still won a major--but she had the talent to win all along, something Jankovic never had at that champion's level.
 

Elektra

Professional
Jankovic will never be at championship level because of her drama queen antics. It is antics that we saw today that seperated the champions from the pretenders.
 

Elektra

Professional
If Simona Halep wants to win championships she needs to clean up and hold her serve.

Serena rules over WTA players because she is able to hold her serve like a ATP player is able to hold serve.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
I would not blame her complete washout at the majors on mental fragility alone. Heck, Novotna became the poster child for that and still won a major--but she had the talent to win all along, something Jankovic never had at that champion's level.
Well, I think it depends. You're imagining tennis talent as if it has nothing to do with context. Is Johansson better than Henman? Most people would say yes, he won a major and Henman never even reached a final. But you see my point. Myskina, was she so incredibly talented? Was her mental fortitude amazing? Jankovic could've won a major. The stars just didn't align for her.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Jankovic will never be at championship level because of her drama queen antics. It is antics that we saw today that seperated the champions from the pretenders.
She wasn't too far from winning though. All these top players, at one moment or another, are usually quite close to winning a big tournament, be it a Premier or a major. I don't think it's much more unlikely for Jankovic to win a major than it was for Iva Majoli. You're imagining an incredible gap between winning and not winning, but that gap isn't that huge. In a few weeks she could reach the French Open final with a lucky draw and an injured opponent in the final, and then all of a sudden she's a Slam winner. You just have to put yourself in that position as often as you can. And then a few years later people will be talking about her as if she had "the ability to win a Slam all along".
 
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Elektra

Professional
She wasn't too far from winning though. All these top players, at one moment or another, are usually quite close to winning a big tournament, be it a Premier or a major. I don't think it's much more unlikely for Jankovic to win a major than it was for Iva Majoli. You're imagining an incredible gap between winning and not winning, but that gap isn't that huge. In a few weeks she could reach the French Open final with a lucky draw and an injured opponent in the final, and then all of a sudden she's a Slam winner. You just have to put yourself in that position as often as you can. And then a few years later people will be talking about her as if she had "the ability to win a Slam all along".
She does have the ability but not the mental discipline which was displayed on court yesterday. Jankovic is a veteran so she should know better.

Think of Wimb 2013 against Liscki and Bartoli, even though Liscki had the tools to win and beat Bartoli she was too emotional.

Bartoli stayed focused and never let the pressure of being in a final get to her.
 

Bibarel

New User
Well, I think it depends. You're imagining tennis talent as if it has nothing to do with context. Is Johansson better than Henman? Most people would say yes, he won a major and Henman never even reached a final. But you see my point. Myskina, was she so incredibly talented? Was her mental fortitude amazing? Jankovic could've won a major. The stars just didn't align for her.
Totally agree on this one. JJ did play well at times at majors, but she had to face Serena, Henin, Sharapova and confident Ivanovic in her matches. 2010 comes to mind as the only opportunity JJ actually wasted. Could she win against someone like Safina, Dementieva or choke-mode Lisicki? Perhaps she could. For instance, Kuznetsova managed to take home 2 majors just because Safina and Dementieva did all they could to outchoke her. Otherwise Sveta would have been slamless, and she is an extremely talented player tennis-wise.
 

ttbrowne

Hall of Fame
Jelena owes most of her success to the backhand shot down the line. When she was younger, and ranked at the top, she owned that shot. No more though. You see it now and then, but it's left her for the most part. She never had the fortitude to win the major and she's always tried to cover her fragility with humor.
 
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