2016 AO QF - Andy Murray vs David Ferrer
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Murray in whatever it takes. Ferrer has already lost the match mentally.
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
Same old same old...Murray in 3 or 4.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Murray in 3.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Murray should be winning this in 3, but he'll find a way to stretch it to 4 I think.
RS92
Hall of Fame
What if he plays 5 sets for the 2nd consecutive match vs Nishikori but he wins the semifinal in 4 for example?
Should that count?
Gytha
Legend
The trials of being a Murray fan, it's never easy. Agree with Muzz in 4
killerboi2
Hall of Fame
Most likely true. Whilst Murray doesn't quite have the same mental effect that the big 3 have on other players, they have almost just as little chance of beating him partly due to mental weakness.
Why not?
"A cakewalk draw followed by semi dead opponent in Final who engaged two five setters in route."
Next case please.
RS92
Hall of Fame
Why not?
"A cakewalk draw followed by semi dead opponent in Final who engaged two five setters in route."
Next case please.
In 2012 he played 5 hours vs Murray in the AO semis and 2 days later he played 6 hours against Nadal and won too.
But in Wimbledon 2013 the Del Potro match was just "too much" for him and he wasn't a 100 % fit for the final according to everyone here.
What changed there? Is not like in 2013 he wasn't fit or something like that.
No doubt he was tired in the final, but is Djokovic...
Rebel-I.N.S
Hall of Fame
Ferrer in excellent form...
This will go the distance.
This will go the distance.
Oh… Not that again Sosa.
RS92
Hall of Fame
Why not? How many times the guy won his next match after playing a 4-5-6 hour match 2 days before?
Really, only with Murray in Wimbledon was he that exhausted that he didn't even win a set in the final?... It can't be just because of that.
Fedex
Legend
Should Murray pack it in and go home now?
See article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tough-scores-relieving-win-Bernard-Tomic.html
He won't get away with a distracted performance against the likes of Ferrer and whoever he meets after.
Mind has to be totally focused on tennis.
You can't blame him if his mind's really wandering though.
Feathers are one thing but the father of your heavily pregnant wife collapsing and in serious health must be really difficult to put out of your mind.
Or can he use that to inspire and spur him on. Win a slam for the family and his soon to be born child.
If my dad came home for me just to see me a few days earlier as a new born instead of having a good chance to win a slam I would be seriously annoyed when I was old enough to know.
Hey my dad saw me two days earlier as a new born. Or hey my dad won one of the greatest tournaments in tennis.
No brainer from the child's point of view. Think of the child Andy.
See article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tough-scores-relieving-win-Bernard-Tomic.html
He won't get away with a distracted performance against the likes of Ferrer and whoever he meets after.
Mind has to be totally focused on tennis.
You can't blame him if his mind's really wandering though.
Feathers are one thing but the father of your heavily pregnant wife collapsing and in serious health must be really difficult to put out of your mind.
Or can he use that to inspire and spur him on. Win a slam for the family and his soon to be born child.
If my dad came home for me just to see me a few days earlier as a new born instead of having a good chance to win a slam I would be seriously annoyed when I was old enough to know.
Hey my dad saw me two days earlier as a new born. Or hey my dad won one of the greatest tournaments in tennis.
No brainer from the child's point of view. Think of the child Andy.
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
Oh no, not logic again. Not fair to try and sabotage your attempts to take credit away from Murray. Certainly not with logic. Not an even playing field.
FedererDropShot
Hall of Fame
Ferrer's form has been fantastic this tournament.
I'd be surprised if this doesn't go to 4 or 5 sets.
But for the sake of tennis, although I like Ferrer, Andy should win.
I'd be surprised if this doesn't go to 4 or 5 sets.
But for the sake of tennis, although I like Ferrer, Andy should win.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Ferrer is using a better racquet and might give him a edge against Murray! We will see shortly if that is the case!
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Murray has beaten Ferrer at the FO of all places.
If Ferrer can't even handle Murray on clay, he doesn't stand a chance on a HC.
Murray in 4. He has to be at his 2014 level to lose this, which he isn't.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
i hate this match-up
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Murray in 4.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Lol..those are just the sort of excuses people who don't rate Murray like to trot out when he wins big against any of them. They have never been quite able to explain why the fittest player on tour could easily cope with a 6 hour final against Nadal after a 5 hour semi against Murray but apparently wasn't fit enough to cope with a much shorter Murray final following a 4 hour semi with Del Potro! Is it that Murray tires you out less than Del Potro does?
batz
G.O.A.T.
Lol..those are just the sort of excuses people who don't rate Murray like to trot out when he wins big against any of them. They have never been quite able to explain why the fittest player on tour could easily cope with a 6 hour final against Nadal after a 5 hour semi against Murray but apparently wasn't fit enough to cope with a much shorter Murray final following a 4 hour semi with Del Potro! Is it that Murray tires you out less than Del Potro does?
Murray only ever wins due to some extraneous factor, but every loss is 100% on him and him alone. Eni fule no thys.
RS92
Hall of Fame
Well, I remember how most of the people here said that Murray won against Berdych in the USO 12 semis because of the wind, and that in the AO 2015 he was going to get destroyed by the power of Berdych because the wind wasn't going to be there to help him.
He didn't need the wind to win 6-0 the 2nd set and then the match
batz
G.O.A.T.
Well, I remember how most of the people here said that Murray won against Berdych in the USO 12 semis because of the wind, and that in the AO 2015 he was going to get destroyed by the power of Berdych because the wind wasn't going to be there to help him.
He didn't need the wind to win 6-0 the 2nd set and then the match
Meh. Enough with the logic and reason and stuff - you Murray fans are all the same!
Rebel-I.N.S
Hall of Fame
The main concern for me as a Murray fan...
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Deleted member 512391
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I know it might sound strange, but Chris Evert (seven time French Open champion) once said that a long match on grass was more tougher on her physically than a long match on clay, because of all the bending and it exhausts the back and the knees a lot more than any other surface.
TahoeTennis
Legend
Ferrer, don't stop play on match point, you can do it! Vamos!
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
I feel like Ferrer is gonna win this. Murray is not in it 100%...with all that's happening in the background.
RS92
Hall of Fame
Much tougher than a long match in a hard court too?
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Deleted member 512391
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Murray owns Ferrer on hard courts, so I expect him to win in four sets. It could be an interesting match, since Ferrer has yet to lose a set and he's been playing consistently well, including that great win against Isner.
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Deleted member 512391
Guest
She wasn't talking about HC, but the point is that the amount of energy that playing on grass drains from the player is underrated, only because the surface is fast.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
I agree with many that Murray should straight him. But I think he'll go a little off the boil (one of the Fiery One, Fred Stolle's favorites) in the 3rd and Ferrer will steal it. Then Murray will snap his neck in the 4th.
TommyA8X
Hall of Fame
That might have been the case 20 years ago, when players sliced a lot and bounces weren't as consistent (and players now play with more topspin leading to higher bounce).
PS
The match was a semifinal, when the grass is much slower and higher bouncing than during the first couple of rounds.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Yeah saw that at WTF. Muzziah for the annihilation.
Hoping for an alert Andy vs knackered Nole final. The new Murray seems to not be donating sets to lower ranked players.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
I can't see anything other than a straights sets win for Murray here. Possibly in 4 if Ferrer plays lights out but he just doesn't have the firepower to trouble Andy in a best of 5 on this surface.
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Deleted member 512391
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I still think that the ball stays lower on grass after the bounce compared to any other surface and it forces a player to bend his knees over and over again.
I don't know if the bounce has ever been consistent on the grass (now or 20-30 years ago) - do you have any info/data about it?
By the way, if the grass is much slower/high bouncing than in the first rounds, how did player like Sampras dominate the tournament anyway during 90s, when there was basically no grass on the court in the final stages of the tournament? And why was Federer beating Nadal in the Wimbledon finals, but losing on clay three weeks before that?
The grass is definitely more slippery in the first couple of rounds, but the difference is not as big as the common myth says, IMO.
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