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Crowd really doesn't like her at all![]()
Yeah. She might try a tad too hard to be cool, hip...whatever. Just don't dab anymore Vika, and go back to wearing skirts.
Crowd really doesn't like her at all![]()
One thing with her is that I think she has a difficult time understanding that people genuinely do not like her banshee wailing. I remember in one of her press conferences she complained about people talking about it rather than her tennis. Newsflash. It is hard to watch you play with your extremely loud "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" noises that basically extend until your opponent is hitting the ball. It's definitely gamesmanship stuff, and it makes some of her matches unwatchable for me.Yeah. She might try a tad too hard to be cool, hip...whatever. Just don't dab anymore Vika, and go back to wearing skirts.
Hmm I don't know. I think the French is Serena's and the US Open as well. Wimbledon will be interesting, kinda expecting Serena to lose in early round or QF. Giving Radwanska or someone else a chance at vulturing the titleAzarenka will probably win 1-2 slam this year. Current Aza >> Current Serena.
Hmm I don't know. I think the French is Serena's and the US Open as well. Wimbledon will be interesting, kinda expecting Serena to lose in early round or QF. Giving Radwanska or someone else a chance at vulturing the title
Azarenka will probably win 1-2 slam this year. Current Aza >> Current Serena.
One thing with her is that I think she has a difficult time understanding that people genuinely do not like her banshee wailing. I remember in one of her press conferences she complained about people talking about it rather than her tennis. Newsflash. It is hard to watch you play with your extremely loud "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" noises that basically extend until your opponent is hitting the ball. It's definitely gamesmanship stuff, and it makes some of her matches unwatchable for me.
Not based on anything really. I don't think it's a certain thing and agree the draw is open. Just expecting a shock loss at Wimbledon more than at the FrenchBased on what exactly? You think Serena has a better chance to win the FO than she does Wimbledon?
I think the FO is wide open for the women this year.
I agree with this 100% (or in Serena Williams logic, 300%).One thing with her is that I think she has a difficult time understanding that people genuinely do not like her banshee wailing. I remember in one of her press conferences she complained about people talking about it rather than her tennis. Newsflash. It is hard to watch you play with your extremely loud "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" noises that basically extend until your opponent is hitting the ball. It's definitely gamesmanship stuff, and it makes some of her matches unwatchable for me.
Well Jimmy Connors did it, even said it in his memoirs "Connors says he may not have been the first player to grunt while playing, but he was the highest-profile player to do so. It wasn’t meant as a distraction, but he says it was simply the outcome of how he’d been taught to breathe on the court. Connors says that, although he tried to breathe mostly through his nose, opening his mouth allowed him to exhale sharply as he exploded into a shot"And whatever people say about grunting or wailing, it's certainly not "natural". It's a recent phenomenon in tennis, you'd never hear players screaming while playing a point before the 70's or early 80's. Granted, you could hear it on serve (McEnroe is a good example), but it never lasted much longer than the instant the ball hit the racquet.
Well Jimmy Connors did it, even said it in his memoirs "Connors says he may not have been the first player to grunt while playing, but he was the highest-profile player to do so. It wasn’t meant as a distraction, but he says it was simply the outcome of how he’d been taught to breathe on the court. Connors says that, although he tried to breathe mostly through his nose, opening his mouth allowed him to exhale sharply as he exploded into a shot"
Did some googling about it the other day and came across this great article which blamed the rise of grunting on coach Nick Bollettieri. He's known for being coaches at one point of several prominent grunters. Seles (who is said to be the first major female to grunt), Sharapova, Williams sisters, Agassi. Apparently Nick Bollettieri's academy openly taught students loud breathing exercises and such. Ryan Harrison commented on how young girls at the academy scream way too loud at the academy.
Not based on anything really. I don't think it's a certain thing and agree the draw is open. Just expecting a shock loss at Wimbledon more than at the French
Yet in the last 4 years most of the clay titles have been won by serena or sharapova. Now that meldopova is out serena is really the only favourite for the FOBased on what exactly? You think Serena has a better chance to win the FO than she does Wimbledon?
I think the FO is wide open for the women this year.
"Meldopova". LolYet in the last 4 years most of the clay titles have been won by serena or sharapova. Now that meldopova is out serena is really the only favourite for the FO
Why 300% in Serena's case? She doesn't even always grunt. In fact, she can go several matches without grunting. But, for you, it's 300% in her case, and 100% in Vika's, who I'm pretty sure has never played a match - not one - without grunting as she does - all the way through, right from the first point to the very last.I agree with this 100% (or in Serena Williams logic, 300%).
Her tennis could be the most scintillating ever, but the noise is unbearable.
Azarenza could be Mother Theresa off court but the noise is unbearable.
And I feel similarly about Sharapova et al.
Life is too short to watch sustained matches. I can stomach it for highlights on YouTube and that's it.
He said "in Serena Williams logic," so I think he is mocking her intellence or logic in this case, for no relevant reason other than trolling. At least that's how I read it.Why 300% in Serena's case? She doesn't even always grunt. In fact, she can go several matches without grunting. But, for you, it's 300% in her case, and 100% in Vika's, who I'm pretty sure has never played a match - not one - without grunting as she does - all the way through, right from the first point to the very last.
You could try to set your Serena dislike every now and then. It's okay to do that. We won't hold it against you.
What? no. The shorts suit her style perfectly.Yeah. She might try a tad too hard to be cool, hip...whatever. Just don't dab anymore Vika, and go back to wearing skirts.
Levi I think you should actually read what Serena herself said - along the lines of players play "300%" better when they play her.Why 300% in Serena's case? She doesn't even always grunt. In fact, she can go several matches without grunting. But, for you, it's 300% in her case, and 100% in Vika's, who I'm pretty sure has never played a match - not one - without grunting as she does - all the way through, right from the first point to the very last.
You could try to set your Serena dislike every now and then. It's okay to do that. We won't hold it against you.
Yet in the last 4 years most of the clay titles have been won by serena or sharapova. Now that meldopova is out serena is really the only favourite for the FO
So If Vika doesn't win this, she's "just another member of the pack"? The fact that no one has pulled off the double since '05...
And my dislike for Serena is consistent. You could learn from that given your swinging opinion of her.
I think she is now. But vika like many in the wta sort of has a history of going on walkabouts both physical and mental. She could end up in tibet with monks in another month. I have to see moreHonest question... If Vika lost today, would she not still be your current solid #2? WAY too reactionary for my tastes.
I just don't see how the answer is any different even if she happened to lose 3 & 4 today.
It's not. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep pulling off her impressive form on clay.
And my dislike for Serena is consistent. You could learn from that given your swinging opinion of her.
That's understandable, as Brother Levi is in training to become a lawyer. He'll argue any position!![]()
Am I not allowed to be ticked off with the players I support? Do I have to be happy with my favourites all the time? Serena does stuff that frustrates me sometimes. But that doesn't mean I should completely wash my hands of her? You probably think I should. You probably think everyone should dislike Serena; just a single collective of Serena haters - oh, I'm sorry you don't like that word ("haters"), PDJ. Serena dislikers.
LOL. You troll them one day, then kiss their rear the next.![]()
Yeah, let's all just trivialise bipolar disorder by using it as an insult. It's not like it's a real mental disorder that some unfortunate souls have to live with, or something.Here's an example of one of your bipolar threads hating on Serena.
Short answer? Yes, I am... again. Deal with it.Oh, but NOW you're a fan... again?
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When did you become a former fan? After the 2015 US Open final?
After the US Open SF. I gave it a lot of thought but I can't support someone like her anymore
The above is more evidence against the wishy washy nature of Brother Levi.![]()
Levi being "ticked off" with Serena Williams:And yet another post from Brother Levi:
"Her (Serena) attitude on court and off. It's just unbecoming of a champion. Petulance, histrionics and laziness. Not traits I like in a player I support. It's gotten worse as of late. Before, you could say it's because she's got fire in her belly. Not anymore.
Ignore list: every single Fed fan!"
Your anti- Serena rant seems pretty strong. Why the change of heart counselor?
Azarenka will probably win 1-2 slam this year. Current Aza >> Current Serena.
Hmm I don't know. I think the French is Serena's and the US Open as well. Wimbledon will be interesting, kinda expecting Serena to lose in early round or QF. Giving Radwanska or someone else a chance at vulturing the title
And whatever people say about grunting or wailing, it's certainly not "natural". It's a recent phenomenon in tennis, you'd never hear players screaming while playing a point before the 70's or early 80's. Granted, you could hear it on serve (McEnroe is a good example), but it never lasted much longer than the instant the ball hit the racquet.
Most of the names you quoted are NOT late 70s/early 80s.Oh, please. I was there in person to hear hypocritical Navratilova's "uuaamph!" when returning, Connors' loud growl when serving, McEnroe (as you noted), Courier's "strain," Becker, Seles, Mary Pierce, et al. The argument against noise is a fake "cultural" attack from some in the PTB (of all people) and a small number of so-called "fans" who still think tennis is some country club sport. ...and they wonder why it still struggles to break free of that pampered, isolationist prison.
Oh, please. I was there in person to hear hypocritical Navratilova's "uuaamph!" when returning, Connors' loud growl when serving, McEnroe (as you noted), Courier's "strain," Becker, Seles, Mary Pierce, et al. The argument against noise is a fake "cultural" attack from some in the PTB (of all people) and a small number of so-called "fans" who still think tennis is some country club sport. ...and they wonder why it still struggles to break free of that pampered, isolationist prison.
Jeez what with? Didn't seem injured at allF*cking Aga is out of the Katowice Open. Where is Katowice, you may ask? Just Poland, that one country Aga should be able to make.
The FO? I'm not sure. Serena has played well there in recent years, but I think she's in a vulnerable place right now, and I'm not certain what that vulnerability is--other than it is enough to allow a player with court sense (and that included the otherwise lumbering, disinterested Kuznetsova) to disrupt her game.
Most of the names you quoted are NOT late 70s/early 80s.
@ScentOfDefeat point remains valid.
You are so off the mark. The point is that grunting/yelling is nothing new. Scent of Defeat is harping on a negative about today's players made utterly false by history. The only "problem" is the country club mentality which has hurt the sport.
I merely pointed out you were factually incorrect. Pierce, Courier, Seles et al were NOT professional tennis players in the late 70's/early 80s.You are so off the mark. The point is that grunting/yelling is nothing new. Scent of Defeat is harping on a negative about today's players made utterly false by history. The only "problem" is the country club mentality which has hurt the sport.
You're contradicting yourself.
But then you say the problem lies in the "country club mentality", which, judging by what you're saying, implies that there was a time when nobody grunted - and then came the barbarians with their obnoxious behavior, ruining everything. Which one is it?